IRS scandal & Benghazi... how many other cover ups are out there?

1) I agree there is nothing to impeach Obama over
2) Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for getting a blow job
3) That said, as we agree, the Benghazi/IRS/AP should all be investigated and those accountable held responsible.

Wow... True, true and true...

Now that you seem to be having a moment of clarity... Tell me about this "cover up".
 
That's a royal joke BAC. We assisted in helping get rid of one of the worst tyrants in recent history who had no problem blowing up commercial airliners and killing innoncents and that was a brutal and horrific demonstraton of American imperialism. Spare me the hyperbole!!!

But at what cost? I mean the human cost of course.
 
there is no crime in benghazi no matter how much you lie about it.


the only real hope of a real scandal is the wiretapping of journalists.


Dont bury it you your usual mountain of lies


http://media.cagle.com/137/2013/05/12/131601_600.jpg
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That's a royal joke BAC. We assisted in helping get rid of one of the worst tyrants in recent history who had no problem blowing up commercial airliners and killing innoncents and that was a brutal and horrific demonstraton of American imperialism. Spare me the hyperbole!!!

I would suggest that you back out of this conversation now .. because you'll only get embarrassed.

Just a heads-up brother.
 
But at what cost? I mean the human cost of course.

NATO’s Failure in Libya

On 17 March 2011, by resolution 1973, the Security Council authorized NATO to intervene “civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.”

We measure the success of the NATO mission by examining the following figures:

In Libya in 2010, under the “regime of Muammar al-Gaddafi,” there were
3.8 million Libyans
2.5 million foreign workers
for a total of 6.3 million inhabitants.

Today, there are 1.6 million Libyans in exile while 2.5 million migrants have fled the country to escape racist attacks.

There remains approximately 2.2 million people.

These figures do not take into account the number of casualties during the operation as estimates remain questionable.

Media personalities evoking NATO “success” in Libya are therefore not referring to its legal mandate assigned by the Security Council, but rather acknowledging it’s hidden mission to overthrow the regime.
http://libyanfreepress.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/8419/

The civil war still rages in Libya .. only this time .. thanks to Obama and NATO .. AL Queda is in charge.

Did you know this?

Gaddafi Set To Receive UN Humanitarian Award In March 2012

Several of the NATO countries, including Denmark, Germany, Spain and Italy, as well as Australia, PRAISED Colonel Muammar Qaddafi for his excellent work in human rights and were set to give a United Nations award to him and Libya in March. Yet, in a complete about-face they waged war on Libya instead.

Before NATO and the U.S. started bombing Libya, the United Nations was preparing to bestow an award on Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, and the Libyan Jamahiriya, for its achievements in the area of human rights. That's right--the same man, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, that NATO and the United States have been telling us for months is a "brutal dictator," was set to be given an award for his human rights record in Libya. How strange it is that the United Nations was set to bestow a human rights award on a "brutal dictator," at the end of March.

more
http://current.com/community/93508398_gaddafi-set-to-receive-un-humanitarian-award-in-march-2012.htm

Did you know this?

Gaddafi's Libya Was Africa 's Most Prosperous Democracy

One area where the United Nations Human Rights Council praised Mr. Gaddafi profusely is women's rights. Unlike many other nations in the Arab world, women in Libya had the right to education, hold jobs, divorce, hold property and have an income. When Colonel Gaddafi seized power in 1969, few women went to university. Today more than half of Libya 's university students are women. One of the first laws Mr. Gaddafi passed in 1970 was an equal pay for equal work law, only a few years after a similar law was passed in the U.S. In fact, Libyan working mothers enjoyed a range of benefits including cash bonuses for children, free day care, free health care centres and retirement at 55.
http://www.countercurrents.org/chengu120113.htm
 
NATO’s Failure in Libya

On 17 March 2011, by resolution 1973, the Security Council authorized NATO to intervene “civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.”

We measure the success of the NATO mission by examining the following figures:

In Libya in 2010, under the “regime of Muammar al-Gaddafi,” there were
3.8 million Libyans
2.5 million foreign workers
for a total of 6.3 million inhabitants.

Today, there are 1.6 million Libyans in exile while 2.5 million migrants have fled the country to escape racist attacks.

There remains approximately 2.2 million people.

These figures do not take into account the number of casualties during the operation as estimates remain questionable.

Media personalities evoking NATO “success” in Libya are therefore not referring to its legal mandate assigned by the Security Council, but rather acknowledging it’s hidden mission to overthrow the regime.
http://libyanfreepress.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/8419/

The civil war still rages in Libya .. only this time .. thanks to Obama and NATO .. AL Queda is in charge.

Did you know this?

Gaddafi Set To Receive UN Humanitarian Award In March 2012

Several of the NATO countries, including Denmark, Germany, Spain and Italy, as well as Australia, PRAISED Colonel Muammar Qaddafi for his excellent work in human rights and were set to give a United Nations award to him and Libya in March. Yet, in a complete about-face they waged war on Libya instead.

Before NATO and the U.S. started bombing Libya, the United Nations was preparing to bestow an award on Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, and the Libyan Jamahiriya, for its achievements in the area of human rights. That's right--the same man, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, that NATO and the United States have been telling us for months is a "brutal dictator," was set to be given an award for his human rights record in Libya. How strange it is that the United Nations was set to bestow a human rights award on a "brutal dictator," at the end of March.

more
http://current.com/community/93508398_gaddafi-set-to-receive-un-humanitarian-award-in-march-2012.htm

Did you know this?

Gaddafi's Libya Was Africa 's Most Prosperous Democracy

One area where the United Nations Human Rights Council praised Mr. Gaddafi profusely is women's rights. Unlike many other nations in the Arab world, women in Libya had the right to education, hold jobs, divorce, hold property and have an income. When Colonel Gaddafi seized power in 1969, few women went to university. Today more than half of Libya 's university students are women. One of the first laws Mr. Gaddafi passed in 1970 was an equal pay for equal work law, only a few years after a similar law was passed in the U.S. In fact, Libyan working mothers enjoyed a range of benefits including cash bonuses for children, free day care, free health care centres and retirement at 55.
http://www.countercurrents.org/chengu120113.htm

No I didn't know a lot of that. The problem is he was behind the downing of Lockerbie and Mott is reacting emotionally, but I think understandably to that.
 
No I didn't know a lot of that. The problem is he was behind the downing of Lockerbie and Mott is reacting emotionally, but I think understandably to that.

Really?

US paid reward to Lockerbie witness, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi papers claim
Scottish detectives discussed secret payments of up to $3m made to witness and his brother, documents claim

Two key figures in the conviction of the Lockerbie bomber were secretly given rewards of up to $3m (£1.9m) in a deal discussed by Scottish detectives and the US government, according to legal papers released today.

The claims about the payments were revealed in a dossier of evidence that was intended to be used in an appeal by Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the Libyan convicted of murdering 270 people in the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in 1988.

Megrahi abandoned his appeal last month after the Libyan and Scottish governments struck a deal to free him on compassionate grounds because he is terminally ill with prostate cancer. Now in hospital in Tripoli, Megrahi said he wanted the public to see the evidence which he claims would have cleared him.

"I continue to protest my innocence – how could I fail to do so?," he said. "I have no desire to add to the upset of many people I know are profoundly affected by what happened in Lockerbie. My intention is only for the truth to be made known."

The documents published online by Megrahi's lawyers today show that the US Department of Justice (DoJ) was asked to pay $2m to Tony Gauci, the Maltese shopkeeper who gave crucial evidence at the trial suggesting that Megrahi had bought clothes later used in the suitcase that allegedly held the Lockerbie bomb.

The DoJ was also asked to pay a further $1m to his brother, Paul Gauci, who did not give evidence but played a major role in identifying the clothing and in "maintaining the resolve of his brother". The DoJ said their rewards could be increased and that the brothers were also eligible for the US witness protection programme, according to the documents.

The previously secret payments were uncovered by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC), which returned Megrahi's conviction to the court of appeal in 2007 as a suspected miscarriage of justice. Many references were in private diaries kept by the detectives involved, Megrahi's lawyers said, but not their official notebooks.

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... the documents disclose that in 1989 the FBI told Dumfries and Galloway police that they wanted to offer Gauci "unlimited money" and $10,000 immediately. Gauci began talking of a possible reward in meetings with Dumfries and Galloway detectives in 1991, when a reward application was first made to the DoJ.

The evidence, which was due to be heard by the appeal court next month, also discloses that Gauci was visited 50 times by Scottish detectives before the trial and new testimony contradicting the prosecution's claims that Megrahi bought the clothes on 7 December 1988 – the only day he was in Malta during the critical period.

In 23 police interviews, Gauci gave contradictory evidence about who he believed bought the clothes, the person's age, appearance and the date of purchase. Two identification experts hired by Megrahi's appeal team said the police and prosecution breached the rules on witness interviews, using "suggestive" lines of questioning and allowing "irregular" identification line-ups.

Two new witnesses also disproved the prosecution claim that Megrahi was in Gauci's shop on 7 December, his lawyers said. Gauci said the area's Christmas lights were not on when the clothes were bought. The current Maltese high commissioner to the UK, Michael Rufalo, then the local MP, told the SCCRC the lights were switched on on 6 December, raising further inconsistencies in the prosecution case.

It has also emerged that Scottish police did not tell Megrahi's lawyers that another witness, David Wright, had seen two different Libyan men buying very similar clothes on a different day; evidence that psychologists believe may have confused Gauci and again clouded the prosecution case.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/02/lockerbie-documents-witness-megrahi

NYT Admits Lockerbie Case Flaws
May 21, 2012

Exclusive: Even in death, Libyan Ali al-Megrahi is dubbed “the Lockerbie bomber,” a depiction that proved useful last year in rallying public support for “regime change” in Libya. But the New York Times now concedes, belatedly, that the case against him was riddled with errors and false testimony, as Robert Parry reports

From the Now-They-Tell-Us Department comes the New York Times obit of Libyan agent Ali al-Megrahi, who was convicted by a special Scottish court for the 1988 Lockerbie bombing. After Megrahi’s death from cancer was announced on Sunday, the Times finally acknowledged that his guilt was in serious doubt.

Last year, when the Times and other major U.S. news outlets were manufacturing public consent for a new war against another Middle East “bad guy,” i.e. Muammar Gaddafi, Megrahi’s guilt was treated as flat fact. Indeed, citation of the Lockerbie bombing became the debate closer, effectively silencing anyone who raised questions about U.S. involvement in another war for “regime change.”

After all, who would “defend” the monsters involved in blowing Pan Am Flight 103 out of the sky over the Scottish town of Lockerbie, killing 270 people, including 189 Americans? Again and again, the U.S.-backed military intervention to oust Gaddafi in 2011 was justified by Gaddafi’s presumed authorship of the Lockerbie terrorist attack.

Only a few non-mainstream news outlets, like Consortiumnews.com, bothered to actually review the dubious evidence against Megrahi and raise questions about the judgment of the Scottish court that convicted Megrahi in 2001.

more
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/05/21/nyt-admitconcedes-lockerbie-case-flaws/

Does the word OIL suddenly have no meaning to democrats?
 
I just truly believe in the freedom of the press and think confidentiality is paramount to it. I think the DoJ needs to defends its action against the AP, and why it went about it in this manner.

Their actions are incredibly dangerous. It's very easy to see the end game here. No news outlet or person dares publish anything negative about an administration in power. This is basic freedom shit here.

If they leaked classified information, they should be investigated and prosecuted.

lmao... he humiliated his wife and child when he went to another woman for a blow job. Don't pretend he lied to protect them. He did it to protect himself. If he actually cared about them, he never would have cheated in the first place.

No wonder you can't find a woman. Look, Miss Prissy, there's only one entity that's perfect, and he's not on Earth.





Well someone didn't wake up feeling good!

He's pissed about the next Survivor season.

Really?

US paid reward to Lockerbie witness, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi papers claim
Scottish detectives discussed secret payments of up to $3m made to witness and his brother, documents claim

Two key figures in the conviction of the Lockerbie bomber were secretly given rewards of up to $3m (£1.9m) in a deal discussed by Scottish detectives and the US government, according to legal papers released today.

So what? They got a reward.
 
Wow I guess missed all that, I thought Gaddafi had admitted to it actually.

Gaddafi: Lockerbie payment was to settle row

Sydney - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has said in a television interview that Libya agreed to compensate Lockerbie relatives to resolve a diplomatic row, not because Tripoli was behind the 1988 bombing.

"This is a peaceful settlement to resolve the problems between us," Gaddafi told Australian television channel SBS's Dateline programme, to be aired on Sunday.

He said Tehran had agreed to the settlement to abide by a court ruling that found Libya guilty of the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am airliner over the Scottish town of Lockerbie that killed 270 people.

"We, at the end, accepted the judgment that was made, even though it is not a legal judgment but a political one," Gaddafi said in a transcript of the interview released by SBS ahead of the broadcast.

In January 2001, a special Scottish court in the Netherlands sentenced a Libyan, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi, to life imprisonment for the bombing.

But Gaddafi denied that Megrahi, who was controversially freed from his Scottish prison in August 2009 because he was suffering from terminal cancer, was a Libyan agent.

"He is not an intelligence officer. He is a university professor," Gaddafi said.

The attack strained Libya's relations with the West, and, in 1992, the UN imposed sanctions to force the handover of Megrahi and another suspect, who was acquitted by the court.

More than two years later, Libya took responsibility for the bombing in a letter to the UN Security Council, and signed a $2.7 billion deal to compensate families of the Lockerbie bombing victims.

Gaddafi said in the interview that "nobody accepts actions against civilian targets and downing planes".

He added that Libya had been blamed for the bombing because, "at the time, they'd blame everything on Libya" because it was leading an international liberation movement against the West.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/gaddafi-lockerbie-payment-was-to-settle-row-1.474054#.UZKyVqJfDCs

With all the new revelations about millions of dollars being paid to 'witnesses' and all the doubt cast on the Scottish courts, Gaddafi was demanding his payments back.
 
In 1951 Libya was the poorest country in the world.

Before this conflict started they enjoyed the highest standard of living in all of Africa, ahead of Russia, Brazil and Saudi Arabia.

They have free high quality healthcare

Homes are considered a Human right .. and Gaddafi promised that every Libyan would be housed before his own parents .. and he kept his promise

Newly married couples get $50,000 for a new house.

All loans have 0% interest by law.

BEFORE the Obama/NATO invasion, Libya had NO NATIONAL DEBT and NO ROTHSCHILDS BANK

Now they have both.
 
Gaddafi: Lockerbie payment was to settle row

Sydney - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has said in a television interview that Libya agreed to compensate Lockerbie relatives to resolve a diplomatic row, not because Tripoli was behind the 1988 bombing.

"This is a peaceful settlement to resolve the problems between us," Gaddafi told Australian television channel SBS's Dateline programme, to be aired on Sunday.

He said Tehran had agreed to the settlement to abide by a court ruling that found Libya guilty of the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am airliner over the Scottish town of Lockerbie that killed 270 people.

"We, at the end, accepted the judgment that was made, even though it is not a legal judgment but a political one," Gaddafi said in a transcript of the interview released by SBS ahead of the broadcast.

In January 2001, a special Scottish court in the Netherlands sentenced a Libyan, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi, to life imprisonment for the bombing.

But Gaddafi denied that Megrahi, who was controversially freed from his Scottish prison in August 2009 because he was suffering from terminal cancer, was a Libyan agent.

"He is not an intelligence officer. He is a university professor," Gaddafi said.

The attack strained Libya's relations with the West, and, in 1992, the UN imposed sanctions to force the handover of Megrahi and another suspect, who was acquitted by the court.

More than two years later, Libya took responsibility for the bombing in a letter to the UN Security Council, and signed a $2.7 billion deal to compensate families of the Lockerbie bombing victims.

Gaddafi said in the interview that "nobody accepts actions against civilian targets and downing planes".

He added that Libya had been blamed for the bombing because, "at the time, they'd blame everything on Libya" because it was leading an international liberation movement against the West.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/gaddafi-lockerbie-payment-was-to-settle-row-1.474054#.UZKyVqJfDCs

With all the new revelations about millions of dollars being paid to 'witnesses' and all the doubt cast on the Scottish courts, Gaddafi was demanding his payments back.

Very interesting BAC.
 
Guess I'm reading the wrong newspapers....the IRS story made page 22 in one paper and page 9 in the other....about a 4 by 6 inch spread....a non-story

Maybe it'll be different today and later this week.

Front page every day here in the good old liberal P-G. Also the AP phone records biz.
 
Gaddafi: Lockerbie payment was to settle row

Sydney - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has said in a television interview that Libya agreed to compensate Lockerbie relatives to resolve a diplomatic row, not because Tripoli was behind the 1988 bombing.

"This is a peaceful settlement to resolve the problems between us," Gaddafi told Australian television channel SBS's Dateline programme, to be aired on Sunday.

He said Tehran had agreed to the settlement to abide by a court ruling that found Libya guilty of the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am airliner over the Scottish town of Lockerbie that killed 270 people.

"We, at the end, accepted the judgment that was made, even though it is not a legal judgment but a political one," Gaddafi said in a transcript of the interview released by SBS ahead of the broadcast.

In January 2001, a special Scottish court in the Netherlands sentenced a Libyan, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi, to life imprisonment for the bombing.

But Gaddafi denied that Megrahi, who was controversially freed from his Scottish prison in August 2009 because he was suffering from terminal cancer, was a Libyan agent.

"He is not an intelligence officer. He is a university professor," Gaddafi said.

The attack strained Libya's relations with the West, and, in 1992, the UN imposed sanctions to force the handover of Megrahi and another suspect, who was acquitted by the court.

More than two years later, Libya took responsibility for the bombing in a letter to the UN Security Council, and signed a $2.7 billion deal to compensate families of the Lockerbie bombing victims.

Gaddafi said in the interview that "nobody accepts actions against civilian targets and downing planes".

He added that Libya had been blamed for the bombing because, "at the time, they'd blame everything on Libya" because it was leading an international liberation movement against the West.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/gaddafi-lockerbie-payment-was-to-settle-row-1.474054#.UZKyVqJfDCs

With all the new revelations about millions of dollars being paid to 'witnesses' and all the doubt cast on the Scottish courts, Gaddafi was demanding his payments back.
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Sure...and OJ didn't kill Nicole. The civil trial settlements are just to settle discrepacies. *rollseyes*
 
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Sure...and OJ didn't kill Nicole. The civil trial settlements are just to settle discrepacies. *rollseyes*

Funny, I don't see OJ mentioned anywhere in the article you're responding to.

Is that all you have brother? Lame ass 'jokes' .. that's it?

If you have something intelligent to say and post on this issue, I'd like to hear it.

But if your purpose is to hide your own 'Stepford Wives' mentality, your inability to think for yourself .. lame ass jokes won't do that.
 
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