Is an egg a chicken?

AProudLefty said:
Some folks today beg to differ.
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A they would be wrong Doc. Anencephalic Children that survive all have BRAIN stems [part of a brain] or they cannot survive. The brainstem has many basic functions, including regulation of heart rate, breathing, sleeping.
 
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ExpressLane said:
A they would be wrong. Anencephalic Children that survive all have BRAIN stems [part of a brain] or the cannot survive. The brainstem has many basic functions, including regulation of heart rate, breathing, sleeping.
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Yeah. Just noticed your edit. Yeah the minimum functions. As I have stated, there's nobody home.
 
ExpressLane said:
So they are born with a brain just an underdeveloped brain. The are deformed. Sort of like being born with a missing arm.
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Yes. But is it still a conscious being? As in a human BEING?

Let me put this in a perspective. The machine does all the breathing for the lungs.


It is a living human thing.
 
AProudLefty said:
Yes. But is it still a conscious being? As in a human BEING?

Let me put this in a perspective. The machine does all the breathing for the lungs.


It is a living human thing.
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No it isn’t lol.

It’s viable lung tissue. Why is it necessary to attempt so many ends-around such a simple and fundamental concept as when life begins?
 
Darth Omar said:
He’s right.

The brain does much more than think thoughts. If a human being doesn’t have a brain—it is a dead human being. Or a stillborn human being, as the case may be.
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So brain functions that regulate heart beats, lungs and such, indicate consciousness (or a human being)?
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
A) is the correct answer but only in the sense it’s the best answer of the four. Viable only means it’s alive—a living organism. Or viable as distinct from non-viable. It’s uninformative in that sense.

A precise answer would be is ‘it’s a chicken in a very early stage of development’. That’s why the chicken vs egg thing is a false dilemma: chickens don’t appear out of the air from eggs—they develop over time.

The chicken began to exist at a precise moment in time—at the moment the egg was fertilized. It’s basic, fundamental biology, that no one questions *until* we start talking about human fertilization and developmental biology.

Then the word games begin.
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We have words.

Words have meanings.

Some people assign alternate meanings to existing words.

That makes a language less effective, because it becomes about context and inflection.

Sort of like Chinese.

Now here are some words, using the intended meanings:

'A baby' has been born.

Eggs cannot fly on their own wings.

A fetus has not been born.

Chickens can fly and they can lay eggs.

If we allow all words to mean all things then our language becomes useless.

If you wish to say 'a chicken in a very early stage of development' that's fine. But that's not the same as saying 'a chicken.'

The two terms are describing different things. They are not interchangeable.
 
Jarod said:
Is an egg a chicken?
If you order a chicken dinner would you be surprised to receive scrambled eggs?
If you go to an Easter egg hunt, do you expect to be chasing chickens?
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ABORTED HUMAN CHILD...8 WEEKS.

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FUCKING BARBARIC SAVAGES...THE BABY KILLERS.
 
Hello Damocles,

Damocles said:
Inside the egg is an embryonic chicken if it is fertilized, that's simple science. You learned this in 5th grade. Shoot, we learned it in Kindergarten when we hatched about 2 dozen chickens in the classroom using an incubator and learned how the chicken was growing inside the egg.
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And I presume that the class called them were eggs until they hatched.

It is begging to be said in this thread.

"Don't count your chickens until they are hatched."

They are eggs until they hatch.

Then they are chickens.

IF they hatch.
 
Life began a long time ago.

When reproduction occurs it is a continuation of life.

No life is created. Merely another individual splits away from the host. Becomes viable on it's own.

It is acceptable to have an abortion in our society.

That is up to the host organism, the mother.

Preferably it should be done early during the pregnancy when what is aborted is very small and has no awareness it even exists.

It should not be done in the days prior to birth.

Where to draw the line between those two situations?

That's the question.

We should certainly honor the wishes of a woman who does not wish to become a mother.

There are already too many humans on the planet.

The last thing Earth needs is more humans.

We have to reduce the number of births.

Hey. Remember, Republicans. Every additional birth is one more person seeking too few well paying jobs. Could be seen just like another immigrant. Dilutes the job pool. What are you trying to do? Reduce wages?

Unwanted children often get a lousy upbringing, end up in crime, become an expense for the state. Think taxes going up.

Here's the zinger: Unwanted poor children most likely grow up to vote Democrat.

You force the poor to raise more children, you are forcing there to be more Democratic voters.

Republicans, you are creating your own worst nightmare.
 
AProudLefty said:
Appeal to emotion is not a valid argument.
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He doesn't have facts so he is forced to use emotion. Par for the course with the elderly far right-wingers.

One theory is they're trying to rack up points before they cash in their chips. Religious points with God so to speak.
 
"Is an egg a chicken?"

"Definition of egg-

1a : the hard-shelled reproductive body produced by a bird and especially by the common domestic chicken also : its contents used as food
b : an animal reproductive body consisting of an ovum together with its nutritive and protective envelopes and having the capacity to develop into a new individual capable of independent existence
c : ovum"

"Definition of chicken-

(Entry 1 of 3)
1a : the common domestic fowl (Gallus gallus) especially when young also : its flesh used as food — compare jungle fowl
b : any of various birds or their young
2 : a young woman
3a : coward
b : any of various contests in which the participants risk personal safety in order to see which one will give up first"

These definitions are different. Therefore:

It is concluded that an egg is not a chicken.
 
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