Is free will a myth?

this may come as a surprise to you, but when some idiot asks "what does the Bible say about....." and we tell them what the Bible says, it isn't a circular argument.......

I've seen very few threads started, whos intent was to convince anyone that God exists (there may have been a few); but I've seen numerous threads started, with the intent to discredit those who do believe.

As I've said before:
I've never seen so much work put into trying to disprove something, that some don't believe in; in the first place.

Makes me wonder if they truly believe that God doesn't exist. :palm:
 
Charles Manson lives a long life. Innocent babies die.

Failure on your part, moron. Your god is anything but benevolent.

Since we don't know the way or wherefore, the conclusions are based on your own ability to explain them; because what this is beginning to look like, is that you're really just terrified of things you can't understand or get an immediate answer to.

Why have you been allowed to survive, when there have those who think the world would be better off without you?
 
Since we don't know the way or wherefore, the conclusions are based on your own ability to explain them; because what this is beginning to look like, is that you're really just terrified of things you can't understand or get an immediate answer to.

Why have you been allowed to survive, when there have those who think the world would be better off without you?

I get it. Never question your god. More lemming thought in your part. “He works in mysterious ways.” Right? :rofl2:

Stupid question on your last one. Nobody that knows me thinks that. Only you fucking idiots that I expose on this forum might believe that. But then again, you ARE idiots.
 
I get it. Never question your god. More lemming thought in your part. “He works in mysterious ways.” Right? :rofl2:

Stupid question on your last one. Nobody that knows me thinks that. Only you fucking idiots that I expose on this forum might believe that. But then again, you ARE idiots.

Because I may have doubts, over certain things, is doesn't mean I'm questioning God; but instead I am recognizing the fact that I don't understand.

OH, thrust me; there are probably plenty of people, starting with when you wee in HS, that wish you no longer existed. :D
 
Because I may have doubts, over certain things, is doesn't mean I'm questioning God; but instead I am recognizing the fact that I don't understand.

OH, thrust me; there are probably plenty of people, starting with when you wee in HS, that wish you no longer existed. :D

:lolup::rofl2:

Another one of your posts made out of sheer ignorance. You certainly are well-practiced at that.

What you don’t understand is that your god is fiction. Either that, or he is not the all-powerful god you “Christians” claim he is.
 
:lolup::rofl2:

Another one of your posts made out of sheer ignorance. You certainly are well-practiced at that.

What you don’t understand is that your god is fiction. Either that, or he is not the all-powerful god you “Christians” claim he is.

What's ignorant about it??

Just because you have no faith, is not my problem; but instead will be yours.

Once again; it appears that you're having doubts and are just scared of that which you can't explain or understand.
 
What's ignorant about it??

Just because you have no faith, is not my problem; but instead will be yours.

Once again; it appears that you're having doubts and are just scared of that which you can't explain or understand.

Scared? :lolup::rofl2:

It’s fear that created the need for an eternal life, pally boy. If I feared your god. I certainly wouldn’t be referring to him as a spiteful, feckless motherfucker, would I?

Faith? I prefer logic and reality over supernatural myths.

What’s ignorant about you knowing me or the people from HS that want me dead? Are you really that stupid in addition to your ignorance? (Answer: Yeah, you are)
 
Did I say that was written in the Bible?

What kind of drugs are you on? I want to avoid them.

If you are NOT quoting scripture or authoritative text, then you are either:


a] Proclaiming what "your trusted confidant told you" aka what "some one told you" and you're now proclaiming it as your own opinion?

or

b] You just make up proclamations and consider them great insights of enlightenment, like, "I proclaim therefore I am"?


Justify your authority, please.
 
Scared? :lolup::rofl2:

It’s fear that created the need for an eternal life, pally boy. If I feared your god. I certainly wouldn’t be referring to him as a spiteful, feckless motherfucker, would I?

Faith? I prefer logic and reality over supernatural myths.

What’s ignorant about you knowing me or the people from HS that want me dead? Are you really that stupid in addition to your ignorance? (Answer: Yeah, you are)

But you have nothing but a fear of the unknown that has created in you, a desire to try and condemn that which you don't understand.

You won't realize your error, until you pass this earthly plane; but at that time, it will be to late to try and make amends.

YEAH, I bet everyone just loved you in HS. :laugh:
 
What they expect and what becomes of it, are two different things.

If Hitler asked for forgiveness, just before his demise, and a Priest granted it; then do you believe he's in Heaven?

Your question is like a Zen Koan.

It also reminds me of the question:

"Is a 'Tornado' the tail of the Devil or the Finger of God?"

What they expect and what becomes of it, are two different things.

Destiny shows a stage where the Roles are played and it appears that some one Type-Casted all the performers in the cast.

do you believe he's in Heaven?


I believe that we know only what we are educated in/informed of/cultivated in.

You know what a dog seeks as heaven? IMO a dog seeks as heaven his master's status.

A wild antelope wishes they were a Lion as the lion bites into its neck.

A roach marvels at his crushing death and they still seek to escape.

A caught fish resigns its self after a few moments to collect themselves.


How can any one plan to go to a location without knowing what to expect? [Yes, if lucky, they can be led by a guide]

Most Jet fighter pilots or even more, test pilots fly trajectories via mechanisms that under went endless R&D ---so they knew where they where going.


If you want to get to Heaven ---you need precise and explicit and absolute knowledge of where your going.

How can I get to Las Vegas without knowing 99% of what is necessary to know?

Maps, reservations, meal menus, cash reserves, visa cards, toothbrushes etc etc etc.

I don't believe you can get to Las Vegas [ie Heaven] without first knowing all about the destination.
 
fear of the unknown

I'd like to comment on the term "fear of the unknown" ---I think imo that the reality of fear is actually based on:

"fear of the known"

We, imo, are taught in real life experience "fear of the known".

Otherwise we'd be called stupid.

ie "Didn't you know to avoid that?!"
 
If you are NOT quoting scripture or authoritative text, then you are either:


a] Proclaiming what "your trusted confidant told you" aka what "some one told you" and you're now proclaiming it as your own opinion?

or

b] You just make up proclamations and consider them great insights of enlightenment, like, "I proclaim therefore I am"?


Justify your authority, please.

I was providing a classic example of Biblical circular reasoning. Did that go over your head?

I don’t need to justify jack shit to you, goofball. What the fuck medications are you on?
 
But you have nothing but a fear of the unknown that has created in you, a desire to try and condemn that which you don't understand.

You won't realize your error, until you pass this earthly plane; but at that time, it will be to late to try and make amends.

YEAH, I bet everyone just loved you in HS. :laugh:


Condemn? :lolup::rofl2:

I laugh at the mentality of lemmings like you. You don’t possess the intelligence to observe harsh reality.

You made the claim about my HS peers. Tell us, what HS wiuld that be? Then, we can narrow it to certain people who eanted me dead. You’ll fail, because you’re a complete idiot, posting out of sheer ignorance.
 
Your question is like a Zen Koan.

It also reminds me of the question:

"Is a 'Tornado' the tail of the Devil or the Finger of God?"



Destiny shows a stage where the Roles are played and it appears that some one Type-Casted all the performers in the cast.




I believe that we know only what we are educated in/informed of/cultivated in.

You know what a dog seeks as heaven? IMO a dog seeks as heaven his master's status.

A wild antelope wishes they were a Lion as the lion bites into its neck.

A roach marvels at his crushing death and they still seek to escape.

A caught fish resigns its self after a few moments to collect themselves.


How can any one plan to go to a location without knowing what to expect? [Yes, if lucky, they can be led by a guide]

Most Jet fighter pilots or even more, test pilots fly trajectories via mechanisms that under went endless R&D ---so they knew where they where going.


If you want to get to Heaven ---you need precise and explicit and absolute knowledge of where your going.

How can I get to Las Vegas without knowing 99% of what is necessary to know?

Maps, reservations, meal menus, cash reserves, visa cards, toothbrushes etc etc etc.

I don't believe you can get to Las Vegas [ie Heaven] without first knowing all about the destination.

I'm not sure what the intent of your reply was; but after reading it and trying to figure it out, twice, I'll just let it go the way of others. :palm:
 
Condemn? :lolup::rofl2:

I laugh at the mentality of lemmings like you. You don’t possess the intelligence to observe harsh reality.

You made the claim about my HS peers. Tell us, what HS wiuld that be? Then, we can narrow it to certain people who eanted me dead. You’ll fail, because you’re a complete idiot, posting out of sheer ignorance.

But you are condemning the belief that others have, while basing it only on your fear of the unknown.

The HS you attended.
The name only identifies where it is and not what your classmates thought of you. :D
 
But you are condemning the belief that others have, while basing it only on your fear of the unknown.

The HS you attended.
The name only identifies where it is and not what your classmates thought of you. :D

I have to laugh at you lemmings. When asked why non-belief is bad, the best you can do is your always circular practice of quoting from your book of fairytales. Pitiable.

I still see you fail on your other claim. You're used to that by now, aren't you?
 
I have to laugh at you lemmings. When asked why non-belief is bad, the best you can do is your always circular practice of quoting from your book of fairytales. Pitiable.

I still see you fail on your other claim. You're used to that by now, aren't you?

Where have I quoted from anywhere; because you seem to be grasping at imaginary straws, in your fear??
 
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