Is honesty an issue in this campaign?

Mott the Hoople said:
Oh brother Rune. Every major corporation in the nation has numerous bankruptcies for failed business units and franchises. It's part of doing business. Some models succeed and generate profits. Most fail within five years.

Using bankruptcies as a sign of failure is only appropriate when you come out of one personally bankrupt.
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The laws protects people like Trump who use it as a means of doing business. Yeah, some businesses fail, but he has 6 to his record, quit giving him a pass, this guy is a loser who had to become a reality TV star to save his ass.
 
Celticguy said:
Billionaire. If you think anyone can do that then why doesn't everyone do it ?
Don't have to like him but to pretend he's not accomplished is silly.
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The real geniuses have said he would have done better with his daddy's money if he had just invested it and let it ride!
 
anatta said:
Clinton's dissembling on her Email explanations falls apart. Then she makes a new stance, and that falls apart too. etc.
At some point extensive dissembling becomes lying -but her supporters always find more ways to accommodate her.

Trump is so bombastic it's hard enough figuring out what he is trying to say..then he'll go back and adjust.
Is that the same/worse/as known prevarications?

What a gawd awful bunch to choose from
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at least trumps stance on trade and border security and honestly for me even terrorism starts off on the right place :)
 
Rana said:
Lol, yeah, that is why all his products have gone under bearing his name.
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To each his own but you are just hating. Steve Jobs was a marketing genius as well but he also failed in his business life. Trump is a marketing genius in his ability to brand his name.
 
Rana said:
The real geniuses have said he would have done better with his daddy's money if he had just invested it and let it ride!
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so just invest in stock market? Instead of actually placing buidlings and other things that actually create some type of employment?
 
Thing1 said:
I actually think it's off the table, which is kind of a sad statement. I mean, if it is a consideration - which candidate has the edge?

Hillary's dishonesty is a politician's dishonesty. It is rooted almost entirely in expediency, and covering for mistakes she has made or other inconvenient truths.

Trump's is certainly more pathological. There was some fact-check recently that had him averaging a lie every 5 minutes. Trump doesn't lie for expediency; he lies because that's basically what he does.

Neither is a great option. Trump's is much scarier to me, but I get that opinions vary.
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Hold your nose and vote for Hillary, remember the supreme court is at stake for a generation?
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cawacko said:
To each his own but you are just hating. Steve Jobs was a marketing genius as well but he also failed in his business life. Trump is a marketing genius in his ability to brand his name.
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I am just hating, because this man has made it on his unhinged comments and nothing more, he is a shit show that people like to watch, like a house fire or a train wreck, and nothing more. He wouldn't be famous any place else but here.
 
Rana said:
I am just hating, because this man has made it on his unhinged comments and nothing more, he is a shit show that people like to watch, like a house fire or a train wreck, and nothing more. He wouldn't be famous any place else but here.
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What unhinged comments did he make to create the Trump branding empire he did?
 
cawacko said:
To each his own but you are just hating. Steve Jobs was a marketing genius as well but he also failed in his business life. Trump is a marketing genius in his ability to brand his name.
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You are comparing Trump to Steve Jobs? lol
 
cawacko said:
His dad didn't have a national Trump brand. Your hatred doesn't let you see straight.
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It was his lifestyle and the outrageous things he did and said cawacko that launched his brand and now it is the outrageous things he does and says that is killing that same brand, so for a marketing genius, he sure didn't think this Presidential run through and how it might affect his brand.

I see that without his dad's money he would just be another loud mouthed fool.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-brand-business-213515
 
Thing1 said:
Trump. Steaks.
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I don't know what the post means....were Trump steaks made out something other than meat?

Trump certainly had his share of business failures,...course, most every businessman has had setbacks....so whats you point anyway....

bankruptcy in the middle and late 2000's was practically a common thing....including GM and some big name banking outfits....

Its quite ridiculous to claim that any billionaire businessman has not been successful.....

Hillary has been successful in marketing herself and selling her perceived influence....akin to bribery....starting when she was 'first lady' of Arkansas....
 
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