Is It OK to Be Scott Adams?

We cannot solve racial inequality until we admit it exists. You clearly aren't there yet. Obviously, the GOP is not there. But it does exist. I can't make people acknowledge a problem. We have a huge wage/wealth gap, but you, as a libertarian, wouldn't do a thing to fix it, and neither will the GOP. So, same, same.

Yes, I believe our policing was and still is something to protect white people from black people. It is what it is. Early police departments in big cities were almost exclusively white. And of course, law enforcement in the south began with slave patrols, which were basically storm troopers. If you were not aware of how policing started, then that again is part of the problem we face.

There are thousands of black people in jail for possessing marijuana. Not so much with white people. Why do you suppose that is, given that marijuana use is the same among both groups? That's the nonviolent crime I'm talking about. Same with crack cocaine. Why were penalties for crack so much more severe than penalties for powder? Take a wild guess.

To the bolded, the Congressional Black Caucus and black leaders back in the 70's, 80's and possibly even into the 90's pushed for tougher sentencing for crack cocaine crimes because they saw their communities getting devastated and were trying to do something about it. Today these crack cocaine disparities get chalked up to racism, white supremacy and Jim Crow Part II (Michelle Alexander) but that's ignoring the history.

I'd offer a certain degree of caution when trying to address the subject from a partisan political perspective. Today we look at the 80's and 1994 crime bills and say they are racist etc. but they were both largely written by Joe Biden. You have a lot of hands in the pot that created current laws. Partisan politics is a separate rabbit hole to go down.

Glen Loury's point of how we self divide based on race has nothing to do with how one votes. Arguably, it's a human behavior/desire to live in the best neighborhood possible, want a safe neighborhood, want to send your kids to good schools. Most people want that, regardless of what their political beliefs are. And that we self segregate by race and economics transcends political beliefs. So that's the argument as I understand it, you can't say people should segregate but it's ok to actually do it.
 
Agree largely with what you said here. I think Democrats are not necessarily going too far but their solutions aren't effective in any way and sometimes do more harm than good. As for Tyre Nichols, that was a case of a cop getting pissed off that an old girlfriend was dating Nichols, and deciding that he and his buddies would teach him a lesson. I don't think racism was involved at all. I think it was a premeditated murder.

A slight disagreement, since the Democrats benefit from racism. It helps rally voters so their incentive to see it go away is reduced.

That's the first I heard of it on Nichols, but it will come out in the trial if true.
 
More tolerance, less division. Both major parties focus too much on "Us and Them" instead of "We, the People".

I'd also put more money into K-12. At the moment, only 8% of school funding is federal. The rest is county, city, state. I'd like to see federal money bumped up enough to ensure that there are quality schools across America, not just in the richest counties of the country.

Add to this is supporting public libraries with computers for online learning. I'm against "free college", but do support increased online learning programs. Students who excel online would be eligible for low-cost college loans, scholarships or other programs. The goal should be to maximize the potential of all Americans in order to allow our citizenry to compete in the modern world.

That’s all nice and I have no problem with any of that. So how does increased money to schools motivate a kid to attend class, do homework and (gasp!) study when he has no motivation whatsoever?
 
That’s all nice and I have no problem with any of that. So how does increased money to schools motivate a kid to attend class, do homework and (gasp!) study when he has no motivation whatsoever?
That's where is parents should encourage them.

I'd also allow inexpensive (at cost) abortions for people who don't want to be parents.
 
Racial bigotry is a sustained problem that needs to be addressed, but we have to start from a foundation of accurate assessments of reality to do it.

That's not an American thing. True Believerism is a disease that distorts reality, and far too many Americans are afflicted by it.

Cosmopolitan people see it as a running joke as a matter of fact.
 
Racial bigotry is a sustained problem that needs to be addressed, but we have to start from a foundation of accurate assessments of reality to do it.

That's not an American thing. True Believerism is a disease that distorts reality, and far too many Americans are afflicted by it.

Cosmopolitan people see it as a running joke as a matter of fact.
^^^
Us vs. Them mentality. So it goes.
 
That's where is parents should encourage them.
Pie in the sky. Even my own parents didn’t do much to help ncoursge me academically.
At least I had a father and mother at home and neither was incarcerated or a ho. How do you motivate a kid with that background? Give him a library card?
 
This is from Glen Loury. He's a (black) public intellectual who has been a long time Social Sciences professor at Brown and at age 33 was the first black Economics professor at Harvard to earn tenure. He's a brilliant man and he has changed his political leanings a couple of times and he leans more conservative (though he's not a political partisan).

Most of the discussion on this board revolves around partisan politics and who people vote for but this post of his addresses something far deeper (and not who to vote for). I don't know that I agree with him (fully) but I think brings up excellent points of discussion.

For starters, I live in a City that's 1/3 Asian and a state that's almost 1/2 Hispanic. This idea of America being only white and black is antiquated. However many parts of our country are largely white and black so there's that. But what strikes me is you can push certain thoughts underground but it doesn't necessarily mean they go away. And he's right about how we separate ourselves based on where we live and where we send our kids to school.




Is It OK to Be Scott Adams?

Why was Scott Adams canceled? The story that’s being spun out in the media is that Adams, the Dilbert cartoonist and author, went on a racist tirade in which he referred to African Americans as a “hate group” and urged white people to “get the hell away” from black people. This, the story goes, is a call for segregation, a clear indicator that Adams harbors anti-black beliefs and as such cannot be allowed to remain a part of polite society. Accordingly, his long-running comic strip must be dropped, his book deals must be voided, and he must be prevented from contaminating the culture with his noxious views.

But you could tell another story. Shocking as his statement is, it gives voice to a sentiment harbored by many, many other white people who feel similarly about African Americans as a group. Clearly, some white people feel there are reasons to “get the hell away” from black people. They don’t say it in words; they say it when they choose to move away from cities and neighborhoods where a high proportion of crimes are committed by black assailants. You can cancel as many comic strips as you want, but it’s not going to prevent white people who no longer want to live near predominately black neighborhoods from acting in what they see as their own best interests. All it will do is prevent all of us from talking about the larger forces that made Adams’s statements a cause for panic.

Abstract beliefs about race don’t make people uproot their lives, sell their houses, move to new neighborhoods, and find new schools for their kids. Material incentives do. Whacking down every outré statement made by a white person about a black person may serve the cause of “anti-racism,” but it won’t put an end to the underlying incentives that cause groups to segregate themselves. If we’re unable to discuss those incentives openly, we’ll hardly notice when more and more people start taking Scott Adams’s advice.

True to form roll out a token Black guy to defend Adams :rolleyes:
 
Pie in the sky. Even my own parents didn’t do much to help ncoursge me academically.
At least I had a father and mother at home and neither was incarcerated or a ho. How do you motivate a kid with that background? Give him a library card?
What is your solution?
 
First, it doesn't really rely on my support.

Second, most of our posts are merely affirmations of what we believe to be true.
They're neither endorsement nor rebuttal--simply perception.

Of course not, yet you do.

and you affirmed that you believe in your genetic superiority over most Americans. This isn't the first time you've danced to this tune, neef.
 
True to form roll out a token Black guy to defend Adams :rolleyes:

LOL. I preface my comment by saying that just because one is an intellectual it doesn't their opinions are always good or that they are correct. Intellectuals can be just as wrong as anyone else, sometimes even more so. But I do find it fascinating how much people sh*t on those who didn't go to college here then those who went to college have critical thinking skills of someone who never stepped foot in a classroom.

It is 100% fair game to disagree with Loury's take here. Thinking this is some defense of Adams however either 1) if being generous, completely misses the point or 2) shows no critical thinking to see the big picture he's trying to speak of here in terms of words vs people's actions.
 
Of course not, yet you do.

and you affirmed that you believe in your genetic superiority over most Americans. This isn't the first time you've danced to this tune, neef.

Perhaps the fiddler is reality, Oom, and this is the only tune that he knows.
You tend to play your own repertoire pretty consistently as well, don't you?
You know my philosophy--we do what we do. Maybe we have a decision in it and maybe we don't.
 
Perhaps the fiddler is reality, Oom, and this is the only tune that he knows.
You tend to play your own repertoire pretty consistently as well, don't you?
You know my philosophy--we do what we do. Maybe we have a decision in it and maybe we don't.
Reality is that your concept of Western Euro Royal genetic superiority is as flawed as slavery and Manifest Destiny.
 
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