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Superfreak said:
'I thought I was drawing my taser rather than my gun'

A cop who doesn't know the difference between a taser and a gun??? That is a pathetic excuse. Good bye Oakland.... you gunna burn tonight...
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He was a BART cop, not a real cop.
 
cawacko said:
He was a BART cop, not a real cop.
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ANY security personnel who are issued guns are REQUIRED to go through gun safety training and proper use of the weapon. It is mandatory as a CYA for insurance purposes. He could be blind and still able to tell the difference by the weight/size of the weapon. It is a lame ass excuse, weather he was a cop, a BART cop or a blind quadriplegic squirrel
 
cawacko said:
He was a BART cop, not a real cop.
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BART cops are real cops. They are not security guards. The reason for the seperate agency is purely to avoid problems of jurisidcition.

http://www.bart.gov/about/police/

The BART Police Department is comprised of 296 personnel, of which 206 are sworn peace officers anywhere in California. Its chief of police commands the department that is BART's sole law-enforcement entity and provides the full range of police services. To prepare for major emergencies, critical incidents, and tactical responses, the department is a signatory to the Bay Area's mutual-aid pacts and has teams of highly trained officers for tactical response and/or crisis negotiations.

Community-service officers, communications/9-1-1 dispatchers, revenue protection-guards, and clerical staff and supervisors comprise the department's civilian employees. Qualifications and training for BART police officers exceed the guidelines of the state's Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, which certifies all California peace officers. In addition to meeting POST requirements, every BART police officer applicant must have completed at least a year of college. Most officers are assigned to the Patrol Bureau and become eligible for specialized assignments, including: field training officer; canine handler; SWAT operator; detective; bicycle patrol; personnel and training officer; applicant background investigator; crime analyst; administrative traffic officer; FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force investigator; and undercover anti-vandalism and special-enforcement teams.
 
two very stupid things happened last night with regards to this.

the jury gave deference to a cop, simply because he was a cop.

and the idiots who rioted and looted attacked the wrong people.

If you want to make it a point for cops to stop shooting people at random, you attack the cops, not your neighbors business and streets. The cops are not going to be phased by random looting, they will continue arresting and shooting. Putting them in fear for their lives is the only thing that will give them some sort of pause.
 
RStringfield said:
BART cops are real cops. They are not security guards. The reason for the seperate agency is purely to avoid problems of jurisidcition.

http://www.bart.gov/about/police/

The BART Police Department is comprised of 296 personnel, of which 206 are sworn peace officers anywhere in California. Its chief of police commands the department that is BART's sole law-enforcement entity and provides the full range of police services. To prepare for major emergencies, critical incidents, and tactical responses, the department is a signatory to the Bay Area's mutual-aid pacts and has teams of highly trained officers for tactical response and/or crisis negotiations.

Community-service officers, communications/9-1-1 dispatchers, revenue protection-guards, and clerical staff and supervisors comprise the department's civilian employees. Qualifications and training for BART police officers exceed the guidelines of the state's Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, which certifies all California peace officers. In addition to meeting POST requirements, every BART police officer applicant must have completed at least a year of college. Most officers are assigned to the Patrol Bureau and become eligible for specialized assignments, including: field training officer; canine handler; SWAT operator; detective; bicycle patrol; personnel and training officer; applicant background investigator; crime analyst; administrative traffic officer; FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force investigator; and undercover anti-vandalism and special-enforcement teams.
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They were arguing on the news that because he was a BART cop he didn't have the same training a real cop would have.
 
RStringfield said:
If this guy did not get proper training then they should throw his bosses in jail too.
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That may happen next. Its getting easier and easier to nail the bosses for what their underlings do.

Unless its an oil company.
 
Damn, there really hasn't been much violence. 83 were jailed last night, and minimal damage was done to businesses, like the sports store they ransacked...

Boring.
 
such a riot would remind me of the watts riot where blacks got hurt more than anyone else

the video was perhaps the best proof that the cop did not intend to use this gun but his taser instead

in which case the verdict is correct

not that that does any good to the relatives and friends of the man killed

a lawsuit against bart for putting a gun in the hands of an inadequately trained cop would serve best - but will not bring the man back to life as the riots will not do either

oh well :(
 
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