Is Ozzy bound for Heaven? He claimed to be a believing Christian.

zymurgy said:
I implied you are frigging nuts

now I am throwing you on ignore because you are a fucking bore. not one reply was interesting or engaging
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Aww, you can't even discuss a topic you raised. Scared of a widdle atheist questioning? Awwww, sorry you are such a wuss and your faith is weak.
 
gmark77 said:
Would you say Ozzy is a "worse" or "better" Christian than Joel Osteen? Both are craven performers who leverage the supernatural to fleece their followers, but Ozzy was explicitly clear that it was just an act for him. Joel, in the explicit name of God, is doing all of that but not saying that it is an act.

The reason "whataboutism" works in this conversation is because God is being "interrogated" if you will. What is the Punishment Rubric which God relies on. We all know that in Christianity the ONLY requirement is acceptance of Jesus as one's lord and savior. So "salvation" is set. But "what about people who are truly good and decent people who care for others and do good in the world but have never accepted Jesus as their savior"? That kind of whataboutism really tells us MORE about the faith.

The more subtle questions follow from that.
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Well said. We have a tendency to look at deities of the past as rather silly, although some make great superhero characters in movies. (Shout out to Thor!)

None of them are as a silly though as this one. This god creates people, decides we're all crap so sends his half human son to save us. The poor Son is horribly tortured and murdered. Even asks dad to "take this cup from me." But then he comes back and a new religion is formed that says if we don't believe this story, no matter how otherwise great we are, we're gonna burn forever. What kind of god does that? Silly.
 
zymurgy said:
you seem to be infatuated with Ozzy

he lived a life of excess. I don't think an all-knowing entity would be impressed but opinions are like assholes...and speaking of assholes.....
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Ozzy is at least as good a topic of discussion as Jeffrey Epstein or Melania Trump.

Ozzy has been clean and sober for many years. You seem to be insinuating that former drug addicts, former prostitutes, former adulterers can't aspire to be Christians or attempt to just be decent people.

Before anyone on this board climbs on their high horse and declares their moral superiority over Ozzy, they should consider how much they have personally done for charity, and how long they have been dedicated to their spouse.

For Ozzy, the answers are: hundreds of millions $$$ raised for charity, and 43 years married to the same spouse
 
Cypress said:
Ozzy is at least as good a topic of discussion as Jeffrey Epstein or Melania Trump.

Ozzy has been clean and sober for many years. You seem to be insinuating that former drug addicts, former prostitutes, former adulterers can't aspire to be Christians or attempt to just be decent people.

Before anyone on this board climbs on their high horse and declares their moral superiority over Ozzy, they should consider how much they have personally done for charity, and how long they have been loyal to their spouse.

For Ozzy, the answers are: hundreds of millions $$$ raised for charity, and 43 years married to the same spouse
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life of excess is more than just drug based hedonism. he was never wanting for anything. he lived an extremely materialistic existence.

giving away an extremely small portion of your wealth might impress some, but I doubt it would impress a god
 
zymurgy said:
life of excess is more than just drug based hedonism. he was never wanting for anything. he lived an extremely materialistic existence.

giving away an extremely small portion of your wealth might impress some, but I doubt it would impress a god
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So your answer is that former drug addicts can never redeem themselves. That's very judgmental for a poster who seems to be claiming moral superiority.

So you can't answer what you've done for charity or how long you have been faithful to a spouse.
 
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