Is Ozzy bound for Heaven? He claimed to be a believing Christian.

I implied you are frigging nuts

now I am throwing you on ignore because you are a fucking bore. not one reply was interesting or engaging

Aww, you can't even discuss a topic you raised. Scared of a widdle atheist questioning? Awwww, sorry you are such a wuss and your faith is weak.
 
Would you say Ozzy is a "worse" or "better" Christian than Joel Osteen? Both are craven performers who leverage the supernatural to fleece their followers, but Ozzy was explicitly clear that it was just an act for him. Joel, in the explicit name of God, is doing all of that but not saying that it is an act.

The reason "whataboutism" works in this conversation is because God is being "interrogated" if you will. What is the Punishment Rubric which God relies on. We all know that in Christianity the ONLY requirement is acceptance of Jesus as one's lord and savior. So "salvation" is set. But "what about people who are truly good and decent people who care for others and do good in the world but have never accepted Jesus as their savior"? That kind of whataboutism really tells us MORE about the faith.

The more subtle questions follow from that.

Well said. We have a tendency to look at deities of the past as rather silly, although some make great superhero characters in movies. (Shout out to Thor!)

None of them are as a silly though as this one. This god creates people, decides we're all crap so sends his half human son to save us. The poor Son is horribly tortured and murdered. Even asks dad to "take this cup from me." But then he comes back and a new religion is formed that says if we don't believe this story, no matter how otherwise great we are, we're gonna burn forever. What kind of god does that? Silly.
 
you seem to be infatuated with Ozzy

he lived a life of excess. I don't think an all-knowing entity would be impressed but opinions are like assholes...and speaking of assholes.....
Ozzy is at least as good a topic of discussion as Jeffrey Epstein or Melania Trump.

Ozzy has been clean and sober for many years. You seem to be insinuating that former drug addicts, former prostitutes, former adulterers can't aspire to be Christians or attempt to just be decent people.

Before anyone on this board climbs on their high horse and declares their moral superiority over Ozzy, they should consider how much they have personally done for charity, and how long they have been dedicated to their spouse.

For Ozzy, the answers are: hundreds of millions $$$ raised for charity, and 43 years married to the same spouse
 
Ozzy is at least as good a topic of discussion as Jeffrey Epstein or Melania Trump.

Ozzy has been clean and sober for many years. You seem to be insinuating that former drug addicts, former prostitutes, former adulterers can't aspire to be Christians or attempt to just be decent people.

Before anyone on this board climbs on their high horse and declares their moral superiority over Ozzy, they should consider how much they have personally done for charity, and how long they have been loyal to their spouse.

For Ozzy, the answers are: hundreds of millions $$$ raised for charity, and 43 years married to the same spouse
life of excess is more than just drug based hedonism. he was never wanting for anything. he lived an extremely materialistic existence.

giving away an extremely small portion of your wealth might impress some, but I doubt it would impress a god
 
life of excess is more than just drug based hedonism. he was never wanting for anything. he lived an extremely materialistic existence.

giving away an extremely small portion of your wealth might impress some, but I doubt it would impress a god
So your answer is that former drug addicts can never redeem themselves. That's very judgmental for a poster who seems to be claiming moral superiority.

So you can't answer what you've done for charity or how long you have been faithful to a spouse.
 
So your answer is that former drug addicts can never redeem themselves. That's very judgmental for a poster who seems to be claiming moral superiority.

So you can't answer what you've done for charity or how long you have been faithful to a spouse.
an all knowing being would know if he truly was redeemed

I have doubts on his true character. you can choose to not. your obsession with this is comical to me though. you seem to think you got some grand gotcha here
 
an all knowing being would know if he truly was redeemed

I have doubts on his true character. you can choose to not. your obsession with this is comical to me though. you seem to think you got some grand gotcha here

So you still neglect to compare your charitable work and the longevity of your marriage to Ozzy Osborne.

All while implying that you have moral superiority over him.
 
So you still neglect to compare your charitable work and the longevity of your marriage to Ozzy Osborne.

All while implying that you have moral superiority over him.
I have no need to prove myself in your eyes, you are a bit of a clown to me

I have been married to one women for 25 years - never cheated. But that isn't where I find fault in Ozzy anyway.

reply away - I am done with your weird infatuation with this story
 
- I am done with your weird infatuation with this story
So still no information on your charitable activities, particularly when in comparison to Ozzy's?

You're the one who jumped into the thread and rendered judgement that you are morally superior to Ozzy Osborne.

Do you feel your judgementalism and claims are beyond challenge?
 
So still no information on your charitable activities, particularly when in comparison to Ozzy's?

You're the one who jumped into the thread and rendered judgement that you are morally superior to Ozzy Osborne.

Do you feel your judgementalism and claims are beyond challenge?
derp derp

I have lived a life - by example - of showing my joy of life. life is a gift, one that I wouldn't waste by getting so wasted I could attempt to kill a person or urinate in public and say gee, I had no clue what was happening. any substance I have ever used was to add to this gift, not to hide from it

an apology for being caught is great. Way to go Ozzy. Stopping all the drugs because your body doesn't tolerate them is not a sign of growth. it is a sign of survival

but again, a god would see what he thinks, and not have to assume as I am doing
 
derp derp

I have lived a life - by example - of showing my joy of life. life is a gift, one that I wouldn't waste by getting so wasted I could attempt to kill a person or urinate in public and say gee, I had no clue what was happening. any substance I have ever used was to add to this gift, not to hide from it

an apology for being caught is great. Way to go Ozzy. Stopping all the drugs because your body doesn't tolerate them is not a sign of growth. it is a sign of survival

but again, a god would see what he thinks, and not have to assume as I am doing
Still no information from you about how you have dedicated yourself to charitable causes to benefit people outside your immediate family.

Again, you're time traveling back to deep in the 20th century to complain about Ozzy.

Ozzy is a former drug addict who did questionable things.
Is urinating in public and drinking too much back in the 20th century really your case against Ozzy?

Ozzy’s Last Concert Raked in $200 Million for Charity—Highest Grossing Charitable Concert of All Time​

'We've lost a friend' - Ozzy Osbourne's beloved charities react to loss with touching tributes​

Ozzy Osbourne’s “Back to the Beginning” farewell concert on July 5 is already legendary. Musical director Tom Morello has revealed just how incredible the show actually was, raising more than $200 million for charity. That makes “Back to the Beginning” the highest-grossing charity concert of all time.​
The money will be split equally between Birmingham Children’s Hospital, Acorns Children’s Hospice, and Cure Parkinson’s, causes that were near and dear to Ozzy’s heart.​
“Ozzy had an incredible career and life, but never forgot his Birmingham roots,” said a Birmingham Children’s Hospital spokesperson. “Our hospital was extremely lucky to have his support over the years and most recently with his iconic final performance, which will leave a lasting legacy for our sick kids.”​
“Thanks to Ozzy, our children’s hospice care has been embraced by people across the world,” added a spokesperson for Acorns Children’s Hospice. “Families who so often can feel unseen have been celebrated by millions.”​
Acorns Children's Hospice shared its feelings on the news too. The charity said: "We are deeply saddened by the passing of Ozzy Osbourne and send our heartfelt condolences to Sharon and the entire Osbourne family at this incredibly difficult time.​
"His decision, alongside Black Sabbath and Sharon Osbourne, to support Acorns during their unforgettable Back to the Beginning show was a moment of pure magic. "​
"Ozzy's legacy with Acorns will live on. He didn't just help raise vital funds, he helped raise awareness. "He helped people see the love, the strength, and the fullness with which children and families at Acorns live their lives, often with the same fire and passion that Ozzy himself was known for.​
"His passing leaves a silence that will be deeply felt. But his voice, his legacy, and the love he shared will echo for generations.​
"Thank you, Ozzy, for the music. Thank you for the memories. And thank you for standing with our children and families when it mattered most.​
- "With love and deepest gratitude, Your friends at Acorns Children's Hospice."​
 
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Still no information from you about how you have dedicated yourself to charitable causes to benefit people outside your immediate family.
I never brag about charity. I find that behavior shitty. those that do are compensating

I do brag about my time spent with my wife however. To anyone that will listen. I'm the only person in my large family that has accomplished a long successful marriage

 
Despite his stage persona and association with dark imagery, Ozzy Osbourne has publicly stated that he is a Christian. He has described his relationship with Christianity as complex and personal.

Here are some key points about Ozzy Osbourne's relationship with Christianity:
  • Self-proclaimed Christian: Osbourne has stated, "I'm a Christian. I was christened as a Christian. I used to go to Sunday school".
  • Member of the Church of England: In 1992, he identified himself as a practicing member of the Church of England.
  • Prays before concerts: Osbourne has indicated that he prays before each performance.
  • Disputes devil-worshiping allegations: He has repeatedly distanced himself from accusations of promoting occultism or worshipping Satan, stating that he has never been involved in black magic.
  • Doesn't regularly read the Bible: Osbourne has mentioned that he has tried to read the Bible but finds it difficult to understand.
  • Belief in God separate from church attendance: He states, "I believe in God. I don't go to church, but I don't think you have to go to church to believe in God,".
  • Beliefs viewed as inconsistent by some: His lyrics and stage performances have clashed with traditional Christian values, leading some to question the sincerity of his faith.
In essence, Ozzy Osbourne considers himself a Christian and believes in God. However, his approach to faith is unconventional and doesn't strictly adhere to all traditional religious practices


source credit: Google AI.
Why would an atheistic, brainless leftist dumbfuck like you care? :palm:
 
I never brag about charity. I find that behavior shitty. those that do are compensating

I do brag about my time spent with my wife however. To anyone that will listen. I'm the only person in my large family that has accomplished a long successful marriage
There are some real selfish and narcissistic jerks in rock music out there.

Whatever flaws Ozzy had, whatever demons of addiction he had to overcome was, I'm surprised you specifically went out of your way to condemn him as an unredeemable moral degenerate.

People in Ozzy's in hometown are writing touching tributes for his generosity and support of charitable causes in his community. How many children's charities do you think will be writing tributes about you when you shuffle off this mortal coil?
 
There are some real selfish and narcissistic jerks in rock music out there.

Whatever flaws Ozzy had, whatever demons of addiction he had to overcome was, I'm surprised you specifically went out of your way to condemn him as an unredeemable moral degenerate.

People in Izzy is hometown are writing touching tributes for his generosity and support of charitable causes in his community. How many children's charities do you think will be writing tributes about you shuffle off this mortal coil?
derp derp

you are trying so hard. I did not go out of my way. I replied to your question

how fucking dumb are you?

Ozzy once drank gallons and gallons of hard liquor for the sheer reason that he hates Christmas time with his family

yeah - a real love of life he had going there
 
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