Is Recent U.S. Policy Towards China Productive??

China is most certainly a third world shit hole. If you ever went there, you would know this. The average citizen in China earns about $7,872. Most people live in cramped quarters and can never hope to own a home.

China is a backwards nation that exploits its citizens and its environment to promote a tyrannical dictatorship. There is no freedom and there are no liberties except for the well connected and Government apparatchiks.



 
The adult population of China is 1,112,836,099 billion. The notion that 1,001,552,489 of them own a home is nothing more than fantastical bullshit.

The average wage in China is not even $8,000 annually.

I guess if you are counting shacks and sheds as homes. :rolleyes:
the figures are correct.
The average wage is about $11k -they don't pay for medical expenses. But many are still poor in the countryside

All you have to do is LOOK at modern Chinese cities-disposable income, jobs and mobility

 
the figures are correct.
The average wage is about $11k -they don't pay for medical expenses. But many are still poor in the countryside

All you have to do is LOOK at modern Chinese cities-disposable income, jobs and mobility


Many of their buildings are empty. The notion that 1 billion plus Chinese people with an average income of less than $8,000 have own homes is a lie and a farce.

According to the Constitution, land in cities is owned by the State; land in the rural and suburban areas is owned by the State or by collectives. (Constitution, art. 10.) Although individuals cannot privately own land, they may obtain transferable land-use rights for a number of years for a fee. There are a series of laws and regulations regulating the land-use rights and ownership of residential property, including:
https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2015/03/chinese-law-on-private-ownership-of-real-property/
 
there are "provincial laws"against IPR theft -but it's a shell game to look like they are really enforcing them - they clearly are not.

This is the same sticking point with the trade talks -China wants to claim they have reformed,
but when we ask for automatic enforcement mechanisms they cry "colonialism"

I don't know specifically what trump thinks he is going to accomplish in that regard.....

IMHO, as I have said repeatedly, & I think you agree, even if they agree to something, what kinda enforcement can you expect??

SO the point here is this- if you are going to deal in china, w/ ccp rules, you are not going to be able to rely on enforcement-& I don't think those doing business there now are..

Nor does there willingness to remain in China depend on enforcement-they aint stupid, if they feel they can't make money they're packing up, as many already have..

You need to continually innovate, by the time they steal 3.1, you are already releasing 3.2~staying one step ahead..
 
The country that makes things is the country that innovates and improves products and systems. When our manufacturers moved to China, they gave all we had created over the decades away. China will be the future. American politicians are whining about what happened as they watched it happen. They actually give countries tax breaks for moving abroad.
 
there are "provincial laws"against IPR theft -but it's a shell game to look like they are really enforcing them - they clearly are not.

This is the same sticking point with the trade talks -China wants to claim they have reformed,
but when we ask for automatic enforcement mechanisms they cry "colonialism"

Here is another POV on the IP theft-over stated.......... (It was perhaps truer up to a few years ago, but in some cases & growing, China is actually ahead in IP &AI)start @ 2 mins-about one min
 
Was Trump’s Huawei Decision a Trade War Misstep? | Gordon Chang

YES, X2- STUPID MOVE~DOUBLING DOWN ON STUPID MOVE GRANTING ANOTHER 90 DAYS

 
Yes, a price they appear eager to pay...... They are not naive.. Some of the biggest & shrewdest corporations in the world....

really?.......I recently heard that Windows 10 is the operating system most widely used in China but that Microsoft only is paid for 1% of it........how was that a shrewd business decision?......

business relations between China and the US have been a one sided drain of US assets to China for 40 years........you may argue with how Trump is going about it (though I doubt you are right) but at least someone finally is acting on the problem........

that is the essence of the Trump presidency........someone finally doing something about all the issues that government has been ignoring for decades.......
 
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really?.......I recently heard that Windows 10 is the operating system most widely used in China but that Microsoft only is paid for 1% of it........how was that a shrewd business decision?......

business relations between China and the US have been a one sided drain of US assets to China for 40 years........you may argue with how Trump is going about it (though I doubt you are right) but at least someone finally is acting on the problem........

that is the essence of the Trump presidency........someone finally doing something about all the issues that government has been ignoring for decades.......

Why are you asking me instead of pO' victim microSUX??? :thinking: (As they sit just a tad below their 52wk high)

No, I give trump props for trying, to bad you have just been trolling instead of contributing to conversations, you would know that..:(

While your desire is toot his hornth_smiley-bj.gif I & a few others are looking/wanting to find solutions, where ever they may be found, including the current regime........

W T F is you take on it?? What do you see as solutions & alternatives??

Thanks for your non-troll reply in advance.....:)
 
No. A tariff war is not productive and is not using negotiation and diplomacy. Trump uses his big gut to determine economic policy in the face of economists who think it is wrong and stupid. We actually have educated and trained experts who could advise him. He has Ivanka and Jared.
 
We actually have educated and trained experts who could advise him

would that be the folks who advised the last three presidents who ignored China for 24 years?.......I believe Bill asked what your strategy would be?......have you decided yet?......

A tariff war is not productive and is not using negotiation and diplomacy.

did China negotiate anything before the "tariff war" started?........
 
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