Is Showing A Photo ID Really Needed?

I wasn't insulted. it looks like thought thieves was though. I would be interested in knowing why I got the thanks in the first place because I know for a fact that you have expected ID shown for certain actions that were listed.

Because my position on voter ID is no different from others' positions (actually I don't know where Grind stands on this) on gun ID. I make the same claims about voter ID that gunners make about ID. You think I'm inconsistent, I think they're inconsistent. Furthermore, I've been around long enough to know that photo ID for anything wasn't always the norm; it was hugely expanded after the Patriot Act. I never had a photo ID for work until 2006.
 
I agree there could be a way to have a national photo id system that would be fair to everyone. But it would be costly and addresses a problem that doesn't exist. And in general in our country, we've never liked the idea of having a national id we have to carry around.

The vote is one of the most precious rights every US citizen has....the right to have a say how their gov. works and how they expect to be treated by them.....

Now how would you propose that this right is protected and afforded to ONLY CITIZENS of the United States and not just everyone that happen to have
invaded our borders uninvited or just even passing through.....?

Just residing here does not give you the right to vote nor does it anywhere in the world where voting takes place that I know of.

If there is no through investigation, how could you possibly KNOW the extent of illegal and fraudulent voting....?

Why would anyone risk even one vote being being annulled by an illegal vote or any kind.....?....and that is what its does, it makes your vote irrelevant.
 
The vote is one of the most precious rights every US citizen has....the right to have a say how their gov. works and how they expect to be treated by them.....

Now how would you propose that this right is protected and afforded to ONLY CITIZENS of the United States and not just everyone that happen to have
invaded our borders uninvited or just even passing through.....?

Just residing here does not give you the right to vote nor does it anywhere in the world where voting takes place that I know of.

If there is no through investigation, how could you possibly KNOW the extent of illegal and fraudulent voting....?

Why would anyone risk even one vote being being annulled by an illegal vote or any kind.....?....and that is what its does, it makes your vote irrelevant.

Why is it that righties only care about who shows up at the polls? I don't see anyone arguing that absentee ballots or mail-in voting should be forbidden.
 
The vote is one of the most precious rights every US citizen has....the right to have a say how their gov. works and how they expect to be treated by them.....

Now how would you propose that this right is protected and afforded to ONLY CITIZENS of the United States and not just everyone that happen to have
invaded our borders uninvited or just even passing through.....?

Just residing here does not give you the right to vote nor does it anywhere in the world where voting takes place that I know of.

If there is no through investigation, how could you possibly KNOW the extent of illegal and fraudulent voting....?

Why would anyone risk even one vote being being annulled by an illegal vote or any kind.....?....and that is what its does, it makes your vote irrelevant.



Is the right to vote in the constitution?
 
when you register to vote you have to prove who you are.


why make them do it again when they vote when NO study has found this to be a problem?
 
why does the right seek to have public money spent on a non existing problem?


I thought you guys hated government waste?
 
Is the right to vote in the constitution?

Are you implying you don't have a right to vote?...whats your point ?

when you register to vote you have to prove who you are.


why make them do it again when they vote when NO study has found this to be a problem?

You don't have to prove anything. You just have to answer yes to no to questions, no real proof is required. An electric bill no not proof of anything. Having an
address doesn't prove anything....Checking the box "CITIZEN" doesn't prove anything.

why does the right seek to have public money spent on a non existing problem?
I thought you guys hated government waste?

Guaranteeing the integrity of an election is not a waste of money....we spend money on that issue at every election with voting machines, ballots, etc....
The cost of holding an election is money well spent....
 
Are you implying you don't have a right to vote?...whats your point ?



You don't have to prove anything. You just have to answer yes to no to questions, no real proof is required. An electric bill no not proof of anything. Having an
address doesn't prove anything....Checking the box "CITIZEN" doesn't prove anything.



Guaranteeing the integrity of an election is not a waste of money....we spend money on that issue at every election with voting machines, ballots, etc....
The cost of holding an election is money well spent....

Wrong again there whiz kid.
 

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BINGO.....you're registered.....no proof, no paperwork, no nothing
 
what you miss is what happens after you turn in the registration forms. They are verified by the registrar of voters

Can mistakes be made? possibly. But if they are - and you are registered when you shouldn't be - how is a voter id requirement going to stop you from voting?
 
When letters are sent to the addresses given and they are returned as undeliverable
No such person exists
No such address exists

.....Idiots yell you are trying to keep people from voting....
 
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