is stop and frisk legal

[Don Quixote]

even though it is effective at lowering crime

so would entering and searching peoples homes without a warrant

it strikes me as a violation of innocent until proven guilty

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-mayor-defends-stop-frisk-black-church-184637461.html

 

[SmarterthanYou]

stop and frisk violates the 4th Amendment. Police MUST have an articulate and reasonable suspicion that you have committed a crime, are committing a crime, or are about to commit a crime in order to detain you for investigative purposes. The fact that the NYPD has gotten away with it for so long is those that are affected cannot find a lawyer or afford a lawyer willing to take the case.

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

...The fact that the NYPD has gotten away with it for so long is those that are affected cannot find a lawyer or afford a lawyer willing to take the case.

You mean the 99%?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You mean the 99%?

that would depend upon whether you consider the police officers union as part of the 99% or the 1%.

 

[Disillusioned]

Originally the frisk was instituted for police safety after somebody had already been stopped to ensure they weren't carrying a weapon. It seems to have just become common practice. Most people however don't know that if a cop asks you to turn out your pockets, you are under no legal obligation to obey.

 

[anatta]

Originally the frisk was instituted for police safety after somebody had already been stopped to ensure they weren't carrying a weapon. It seems to have just become common practice. Most people however don't know that if a cop asks you to turn out your pockets, you are under no legal obligation to obey.

then they "detain" you (non arrest) bring out dogs, to sniffout your car.
The 4th amendment, as are all the Bill of Rights are only as enforced as we choose too. SCOTUS has pretty much said there is no right to privacy -anywhere.
Soon there wil be 'domestic drones', as well as the other Patriot Act incursions into civil liberties. Congess had brought into this, and given the executive extreme latitude to do as they please.

We've allowed this to happen, we don't demand any restriction on 'security", so we abandon liberty. Everyone knows what the Ben Frankilin phrase is regarding the 2.