Is the military taking a public relations hit on this?

Nomad said:
You're FOS.

Don't include me in that rabble unless you can provide a link to a post where I've supposedly done that.
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Dude, you included yourself by siding with the anti-military, non-veterans on this thread. Have a complaint? File it with management.
 
Micawber said:
Some of these terrorist dogs apparently are ex military. Some of the C.H.U.D. who post here also align with Trump.
Even fewer, but still a couple, who claim to be military after this terrorist mission to attack the capitol of the United States of America and kill our democratically elected officials
including Pence, still support the terrorists.


Do we need to look closer at who we allow in the military? Should whites be allowed anymore?

In seriousness, there is more than a hint of paramilitary trappings claimed in this shit. Anyone bothered.

ANY MILITARY POSERS HERE WILLING TO SHOUT DOWN TRUMP AND HIS TARDS? Thought not.:rolleyes:
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The Democrats are not going to take any part in throwing out the babies with the bathwater! Cooler heads are going to prevail.

There is a huge misconception among Republicans that the Military is made up of mostly Republicans. That is about as far-fetched a thought as thinking Donald Trump is a law abiding president.

The military tracks many things, but voter preference does not appear to be one of them. But the military newspapers do surveys, and they discover that the enlisted tend to be registered Democrat, at least at a higher percentage than general population, and the officers tend to be registered Republican. In both cases they tend to be slightly more conservative, but the most junior enlisted are more liberal. Voter registration is less than the average civilian population, and voter participation is lower too. Significantly, the more mobile the service member, the less likely he is to be registered or participate, and the more senior the member, the more likely to participate. There is a slight but significant difference in some other demographics, but otherwise they look like the civilian voter base. The major complaint military members have is that military votes are either not counted or arrive after the results are announced, or that their votes are uninformed or insignificant in midterm elections. This drives down participation.

Trump has seriously damaged the military support for Republicans of the past, by calling enlisted men suckers and losers, the way he treated military heroes parents, the way he treated John McCain and his family, and pardoning military convicted murderers, misuse of the military, misuse of the flag that they honor, abandoning our allies and leaving them to die, and his insistence to demagogue our allies while propping up dictators, and failing to produce good Veterans policies etc.

Polls have suggested that the military vote came in very strongly to replace Donald Trump as the Commander-In-Chief, and elect Joe Biden this time around.
 
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Concart said:
This one is a bridge too far for me. Our military take an oath, and absent any evidence to the contrary, I have no reason to believe they will violate that oath. We can't start giving political tests to decide who gets to serve and whether they are serving honorably.
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Any that violate their oath will face the consequences IAW the UCMJ. That's a lot more severe than being a fucking asshole on Facebook. ;)

Add to this, once out of the service, violations of oaths are rarely, if ever, prosecuted. IMHO, an oath is forever. That's a personal belief, not US law.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
The Democrats are not going to take any part in throwing out the babies with the bathwater! Cooler heads are going to prevail.

There is a huge misconception among Republicans that the Military is made up of mostly Republicans. That is about as far-fetched a thought as thinking Donald Trump is a law abiding president.

The military tracks many things, but voter preference does not appear to be one of them. But the military newspapers do surveys, and they discover that the enlisted tend to be registered Democrat, at least at a higher percentage than general population, and the officers tend to be registered Republican. In both cases they tend to be slightly more conservative, but the most junior enlisted are more liberal. Voter registration is less than the average civilian population, and voter participation is lower too. Significantly, the more mobile the service member, the less likely he is to be registered or participate, and the more senior the member, the more likely to participate. There is a slight but significant difference in some other demographics, but otherwise they look like the civilian voter base. The major complaint military members have is that military votes are either not counted or arrive after the results are announced, or that their votes are uninformed or insignificant in midterm elections. This drives down participation.

Trump has seriously damaged the military support for Republicans of the past, by calling enlisted men suckers and losers, the way he treated military heroes parents, the way he treated John McCain and his family, and pardoning military convicted murderers, misuse of the military, misuse of the flag that they honor, abandoning our allies and leaving them to die, and his insistence to demagogue our allies while propping up dictators, and failing to produce good Veterans policies etc.

Polls have suggested that the military vote came in very strongly to replace Donald Trump as the Commander-In-Chief, and elect Joe Biden this time around.
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Epic post. Thank you for the effort it took to compose.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You should put me on ignore. The fact remains this thread is full of anti-military Democrats doing what they've done since the 1970s: spitting on American troops.

Prior to that, Wilson, FDR, Truman, JFK and LBJ loooooved US troops as much as they liked sending them to war.
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Lame. He did not, I did not. The accusation is a deflection.

After I made my post, the CIC of all the US services issued a statement fulfilling the gaping need. You, on the other hand,
attacked the very person who shed light on an issue that concerns many. Enough so that the CIC handled that.
How can people not be concerned when a army of thugs attack the US capitol the day a right wing potus tries to avert his successor being certified the winner?

Some of the same people here who have bragged of their military bona fides AND supported Trump have claimed to have inside knowledge of the insurrection.
You have a geological boulder on your igneous shoulder, son. Eagle eye, is the singular person, so far to refute the OP.

You seem to be unable see that armed insurrectionists attacking the capitol can coexist with a professional and patriotic military.
I didn't ask for anyone to take my online patriotism test, I simply noted the indisputable fact of their silence. And you will NEVER be able to
demonstrate otherwise. Again, all due deference to you in your ham handed equivocation but especially Eagle Eye, with his full throated
denunciation of the Orange cheeto.
 
Micawber said:
Lame. He did not, I did not. The accusation is a deflection...
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Disagreed on both points.

You are free to slander and libel the US military, counselor. I'm free to disagree and call you a fucking hypocrite for doing to the US military what the racists do the American minorities. Have a nice fucking day. :thup:
 
Nomad said:
I didn't "side" with anyone...
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Bullshit.

Nomad said:
The military, especially the army, has always been known for accepting the dregs of society because, let's face it, beggars can't be choosers.

I suppose nowadays the army and the military in general aren't as much beggars as they used to be, since it has become an acceptable career choice for more people.

But they still get their share of lowlifes.

Always will.

The army is not known for turning away a lot of people willing to volunteer.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed on both points.

You are free to slander and libel the US military, counselor. I'm free to disagree and call you a fucking hypocrite for doing to the US military what the racists do the American minorities. Have a nice fucking day. :thup:
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And we are free to point out to you how FOS you are.
 
Lame. He did not, I did not. The accusation is a deflection...

After I made my post, the CIC of all the US services issued a statement fulfilling the gaping need. You, on the other hand,
attacked the very person who shed light on an issue that concerns many. Enough so that the CIC handled that.
How can people not be concerned when a army of thugs attack the US capitol the day a right wing potus tries to avert his successor being certified the winner?

Some of the same people here who have bragged of their military bona fides AND supported Trump have claimed to have inside knowledge of the insurrection.
You have a geological boulder on your igneous shoulder, son. Eagle eye, is the singular person, so far to refute the OP.

You seem to be unable see that armed insurrectionists attacking the capitol can coexist with a professional and patriotic military.
I didn't ask for anyone to take my online patriotism test, I simply noted the indisputable fact of their silence. And you will NEVER be able to
demonstrate otherwise. Again, all due deference to you in your ham handed equivocation but especially Eagle Eye, with his full throated
denunciation of the Orange cheeto.


Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed on both points.

You are free to slander and libel the US military, counselor. I'm free to disagree and call you a fucking hypocrite for doing to the US military what the racists do the American minorities. Have a nice fucking day. :thup:
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Nope, my truth will follow your lies ad infinitum. Have a terrible day, old loser.
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Port Tack said:
If you support trump you are a shithead. If you are a service member and support trump, you are a shithead. Trump is the leader of a domestic terrorist organization so you can't support the asshole and not be a traitor. Trump is about to be impeached for the second time, he is a danger to this country, his followers are as well.
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Every word is nothing but your opinion. Trump will be gone in just a few days then you can refocus your hatred toward those you disagree with.
 
Bull&Terrier said:
I haven't bragged about shit.


The day I came back here. Dutch uncle whom I never met accused me of stolen valor out of the blue,. then during talks with him, his story became very suspect, retired/active navy/marine c-46 pilot who never was even close to any conflict then his wierd comment to me that if I thought he was impersonating an officer I should contact the fbi.... His story doesn't jive.


The guy is an asshole, has caused me real life issues and is extremely bigoted. I have no time for that.


here ya go:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-Corona-Explodes-to-61!&p=4129413#post4129413



within 10 posts he accuses me of stolen valor after picking a fight out of the blue.


Since you don't want to mind your own business, you should at least be fully informed.



He claims he joined in 1975 avoided all conflicts and is still active duty c-46 pilot?


That's 46 year service. that would make him at minimum 64 years old.


Think a competent officer would not behave like him and have a command by now. or at least be retired.
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So you never met him but he also caused you issues in real life?

And it's no use bragging about being military online. Anyone can claim it and anyone can Google most things to make it seem legit. Even asking random things, like what kind of restaurant might exist near such and such a place they claim to have been stationed at, can be checked on Google Maps with the "street view" function.

The only time I've ever even heard someone yell "stolen valor" in real life was when a guy from a Civil War re-enactment came in dressed as a Union officer. Everyone laughed because it was funny.
 
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Michael_Panetta said:
So you never met him but he also caused you issues in real life?
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yup.


did you not see my pm.





he went after me, found out all he could about me, went to people actively engaging in doxxing me for information and called my jits school on more than one occasion.


now, what... have I done?
 
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