Is the US really heading for a second civil war?

[Stone]

There are more gun owners in urban areas than there are in the boonies.

You're outnumbered 4-1.

 

[BidenPresident]

If there is a second Civil War, Reconstruction 2.0 needs to abolish the Senate, the Electoral College, needs to establish a VAT on religion/churches, indefinitely suspend Fox News' broadcast license, seize the foreigner Murdoch's assets, and remove the ability for states to draw their own Congressional districts.

Oh and allow individuals to sue any place of worship whose members use religion to justify their crimes.

Why abolish the Senate?

 

[reagansghost]

Why abolish the Senate?

problem with the senate is states with 10 people enjoy the same representation as states like CA and NY

that's not democracy

 

[BidenPresident]

problem with the senate is states with 10 people enjoy the same representation as states like CA and NY

that's not democracy

It was not supposed to represent populations.

 

[LV426]

Why abolish the Senate?

It's not representative of anything...it makes no sense that a state like Wyoming has as many Senators as a state like CA.

The Senate is also completely dysfunctional by design...so fold it into the House, which would expand the House to 535 seats, which it should at least be since we haven't increased the size of the House since 1913.

We used to increase the size of the House to account for population growth, but we haven't done so in 109 years, despite doing so for about 140 years prior.

 

[LV426]

It was not supposed to represent populations.

It was supposed to represent Slave holders.

And we don't have slave holders anymore since slavery has been abolished.

So what does the Senate represent? Nothing. It's anti-democratic.

 

[reagansghost]

It was not supposed to represent populations.

then the constitution is flawed like it is in so many way........like the EC

they should give these barren wasteland states 1 senator, like they give them only 3 representatives in the house

 

[BidenPresident]

It's not representative of anything...it makes no sense that a state like Wyoming has as many Senators as a state like CA.

The Senate is also completely dysfunctional by design...so fold it into the House, which would expand the House to 535 seats, which it should at least be since we haven't increased the size of the House since 1913.

We used to increase the size of the House to account for population growth, but we haven't done so in 109 years, despite doing so for about 140 years prior.

Most governments have an 'upper chamber' and 'lower chamber'. I think having two separate legislative bodies works.

 

[BidenPresident]

then the constitution is flawed like it is in so many way........like the EC

they should give these barren wasteland states 1 senator, like they give them only 3 representatives in the house

Agree about the Electoral College. It long ago outlived its usefulness.

 

[reagansghost]

Agree about the Electoral College. It long ago outlived its usefulness.

the Euro democracies choose leaders with the popular vote

the last two GOP presidents took office with the minority vote

that's nuts

 

[BidenPresident]

the Euro democracies choose leaders with the popular vote

the last two GOP presidents took office with the minority vote

that's nuts

Parliaments don't have presidents. I've always thought it was as good as our system or better.

 

[LV426]

Most governments have an 'upper chamber' and 'lower chamber'.

Right, but how are those people elected and what do they represent?

I think having two separate legislative bodies works.

What makes you say that?

 

[BidenPresident]

Right, but how are those people elected and what do they represent?




What makes you say that?

If there is one chamber then Pelosi or McConnell would have total control over all legislation. They could actually end up with as much power as the President.

 

[LV426]

If there is one chamber then Pelosi or McConnell would have total control over all legislation.

They already do, so what?

They could actually end up with as much power as the President.

Well, all three branches are supposed to be co-equal.

 

[BidenPresident]

They already do, so what?




Well, all three branches are supposed to be co-equal.

No, House and Senate must vote on same bill to send it to President.

 

[BidenPresident]

Well, all three branches are supposed to be co-equal.

House has a leader and Senate has a leader.

 

[LV426]

No, House and Senate must vote on same bill to send it to President.

But what benefit is there to the country for the House and Senate to vote on the same bill?

 

[LV426]

House has a leader and Senate has a leader.

Right, but the Legislative Branch is co-equal to the Executive Branch.

The Senate is not co-equal to the Presidency.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

This is one that could get them dead. I like it! I am a bad, bad man.


Bring it, bitch man! We've been wanting this for a while! Yessir!

Sure Barney! Right! You have us all skakin' in our boots!

Next!

 

[BidenPresident]

But what benefit is there to the country for the House and Senate to vote on the same bill?

Already stated it. Even within one party it would give the majority leader too much power.