BidenPresident
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What did I lie about?
Is the West Becoming Pagan Again?
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What did I lie about?
Blackcat13th
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Fk <----- see? 100% zero fks given.
Blackcat13th
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Your whore mom
That's so 8,000 BC. Now we worship skyclad, frolic through the fields and meadows celebrating fertility and spring, and enjoy much mead and honey. Come join us!
The Aztecs are more recent than that ... too bad you know so little of history
ThatOwlWoman
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Okay then, Skippy. lol
Blackcat13th
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Wtf is a skippy? How goddamn old are you?
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
More mature, educated, intelligent and saner than you'll ever be, nutjob.
Blackcat13th
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Lol, whore.
saltydancin
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Have to wonder since the master race failure of their lynching enforcement to protect & serve this Christian Nation national religion of Islam's virgin Mary human reproduction medical pseudoscience pertaining to a son of Allah more perfect union with Christianity's fabricated misnomer immaculate Jesus the Christ conception in Christiananlity pedophilia economics master plan resulting in 9/11 holycosts due to those crooks on Capital Hill suicidal super egos malfeasance in sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming one nation under God with equal justice under law.
Blackcat13th
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Boring..........
This is your quote: "Our day to day social norms ethics, and cultural values comes in substantial extent either directly or indirectly from the West's two thousand year engagement with Judeo-Christianty".
Our "day to day social norms, ethics, and cultural values" ...is Democracy, Liberty, Free Expression, Tolerance, Inquiry. NOT something 'Religions' are known for.
So, in my opinion, you are MISTAKEN or LYING.
Someone may be on Crack ... but it's not me.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
You're an unmedicated bipolar, which amounts to the same thing.
The Laws of the Jungle include Might makes Right and Kill or be Killed. Christianity taught compassion and from that sprang forth people like John Locke, John Stuart Mill and Thomas Jefferson.
Christianity was a social construct that allowed helped people to realize there was something greater than themselves and they could help build it. Buddhism provided a similar social system in Asia.
Jack, your hatred of Christianity is blinding you to all the benefits and good things religion has allowed mankind to do. Why do you only focus on the negative?
You keep running from that question. What happened to you to cause you to hate Christianity so much?
No, it's the crack you were smoking that made you imagine I said any of that. The first amendment, freedom of expression, and trial by jury come from Madison, Jefferson, John Stuart Mill, the liberal Enlightenment, at least most directly.
Our day to day social and cultural norms are not exactly the same thing as political rights.
See Dutch Uncle's post.
I am sure Wikipedia has an entry on Christianity's influence on western civilization if this is a topic you want to learn about this late in life.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_Christianity_in_civilization
Every history class I have ever taken in western civilization or European history has noted the vast cultural influence Christianity has had on the west. For better or for worse.
There is not a single, legitimate college history survey course on western or European civilization which will fail to note the vast influence Christianity has had on the development of the social, ethical, cultural norms of western civilization.
It is just factually accurate to state that.
Just like it is factually accurate to state our mathematics were profoundly influenced by Euclid and Archimedes.
Blackcat13th
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Nonsense christianity had nothing to do with any of that. Note it's biggest metaphor for going against the flow or thinking you're special.
It simply changed it from individuals doing all of that to whole groups of individuals doing all of that and more.
Nailed to a tree after being tortured with your mom waiting for you to die so she can catch your post mortem ejaculation in a little wooden bowl because you were celibate your whole life and you just left her to die a horrible meaningless death alone. You'll end up renamed after the faggot god of the faggot people that killed you. And, people will ceremoniously eat you and drink your blood for another few thousand years till they're all lead of a cliff of overpopulation by every intention.
Note, this fagot himself thinks it's just crazy to check the meaning of Jesus in the original spoken roman latin.
A bigger whore, you cannot find.
Death to you and your whole kind. I dont give the first fk which way you get it.
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moon
Satire for Sanity
THERE you are ! It was looking like a filth-free morning . Tell us more about ' post-mortem ejaculation ' and ' wooden bowls ' and stuff.
'Religion' teaches Intolerance. The OPPOSITE to compassion.
Blackcat13th
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Look how these fagots are. Its for all of that which you say that Christianity is even alive today. Its the separation of church and state that allows people to forget all the heinous barbarism of Christianity. Whole south american civilizations wiped from history, their whole population forcibly indoctrinated and left to a cesspool of depravity till they're ignorant enough about it to blame everyone who had no part in any of it, just to name a few things.
It doesn't pass the laugh test to claim nothing about society, culture, and ethics really changed between the Greco-Roman world and European Christianity. It is factually inaccurate to claim that is was all basically a continuation of the same thing.
On the downside, Christianity did continue a tradition of patriarchy, as did all societies on the planet.
Christianity did condone violence against perceived heritics and rival religions.
Christianit leaders often found themselves in league with perpetuating the power of the aristocracy. That is why the Church engendered such hostility in the French and Russian revolutions.
For a 300 year period, some Christian leaders turned a blind eye to African slavery.
You also cannot overlook the long and toxic history of anti-semitism in Christian history.
On the positive side, Christianity did make certain ethical norms a theologically binding expectation: charity, compassion, humility, the golden rule, universal love. Not to say it was always or consistently practiced, but it was considered a formal religious expectation. The pagan religions of Greek and Rome had no system of ethics. None. They were strictly sacrificial religions intended to curry favor with the gods. To the extent anyone practiced compassion, it was an individual choice, but it was not a cultural or religious expectation.
The cultural values of the Greeks and Romans were personal courage, valor on the battlefield, personal honor, and personal reputation, and might makes right. This is clearly illustrated in the Illiad, the Odyssey, and the Melian debate.
As to slavery, not a single person in the pre-christian Greco-Roman world ever wrote anything against slavery. Nor did anyone even write anything expressing discomfort with slavery.
Christianity was the first intellectual tradition in the west to start to distance itself from slavery. Saint Augustine, while recognizing slavery was a reality in this world, still wrote that slavery was a sin and a result of the corruption of man's soul. That was a pretty radical thing to say for it's day.
Slavery had disappeared in Christian Europe by the early Middle Ages, to be replaced by serfdom. Which was terrible in itself, but serfdom was not as bad as chattal slavery. Your average chattel slave would trade places with an average serf in a nanosecond.
A lot of Christian leaders did look the other way for three centuries in the early modern era, when European mercantilists and capitalists kicked off the Africa slave trade.
And I would count that, anti-semitism, and patriarchy as Christianity's most significant moral failures
Blackcat13th
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Hi, go die, whore.