Israeli Airstrike Destroys UN Observation Post

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I am no child predator.... Dixie's faux outrage is just that. Dixie accused me of being a pedophile and gave repeated and solid credence to the slanderous reports of others who had suggested that I had raped my own son. He refused to apologize even though I gave him plenty of opportunity to do so.... so one night, after a few mojitos, I decided to play by his rules. The next morning, when sobriety arrived with the daylight, I promptly apologized to him and to the board. Something he has NEVER done for me.

I am a normal guy.... with normal kids whom I have raised well. I have never abandoned my children or allowed them to slip away from my care and influence. My children have NEVER had to find ME by searching the web! If I had ever lost track of MY kids (which I would NEVER do), I would be the one finding THEM, not the other way around.

I am a staunch democrat who routinely beats Dixie like a drum on issues concerning foreign affairs. He is using this feigned outrage now to avoid those frequent whippings. I don't really BLAME him, and it does fit with the rest of his lifelong pursuit of cowardice.
 
maineman said:
::yawn::

I am no child predator.... Dixie's faux outrage is just that. Dixie accused me of being a pedophile and gave repeated and solid credence to the slanderous reports of others who had suggested that I had raped my own son. He refused to apologize even though I gave him plenty of opportunity to do so.... so one night, after a few mojitos, I decided to play by his rules. The next morning, when sobriety arrived with the daylight, I promptly apologized to him and to the board. Something he has NEVER done for me.

I am a normal guy.... with normal kids whom I have raised well. I have never abandoned my children or allowed them to slip away from my care and influence. My children have NEVER had to find ME by searching the web! If I had ever lost track of MY kids (which I would NEVER do), I would be the one finding THEM, not the other way around.

I am a staunch democrat who routinely beats Dixie like a drum on issues concerning foreign affairs. He is using this feigned outrage now to avoid those frequent whippings. I don't really BLAME him, and it does fit with the rest of his lifelong pursuit of cowardice.
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I wish Dixie would go back to debating you. I must admit, it was good entertainment!
 
Tha'ts how I feel about conservative talk radio. Its one gigantic ego boost after another!
 
I say again:
maineman said:
I think that the fault lie in the UN leadership. Those four observers were unarmed members of an organization called the UN Truce Supervision Organization. Once Israel started a significant military offensive, there was no more truce to supervise. Those four observers at OP Khiam, along with the four at OP Lab and OP Hin and OP Ras and OP Mar should have all been called in out of the field. OP Khiam was IMMEDIATELY adjacent to the village of Khiam, just a few clicks south of Nabatiye and the Litani River.... the village was a target in the Israeli offensive. They dropped bombs on the village at night and one of them hit the OP. It should have been empty at the time
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So, Israel bombing a clearly marked UN building and killing 4 UN officials is the fault of the UN? Please clarify.
 
1. it was at night.... UN markings on the roof of an OP are not lit up.
2. UNTSO was there to "supervise" a "truce" Once war started, and there was no "truce" to "supervise", they had no reason to be there and should have been pulled, along with the observers in the other four UNTSO observation posts in southern lebanon rather than keep them in harm's way for no purpose. I fault the chief of OGL (Observer Group Lebanon) totally.
 
It's the fault of Hezbollah, who acted in cowardice, trying to hide near a UNOP, while they lobbed their bombs at the innocent people of Israel. A message from one of the 4 dead UN observers, says as much.
 
the fact remains, the UN observers should NEVER have been there "supervising" a "truce" that was non-existent. They should have all been recalled to the HQ in Naquora the minute the shooting started in earnest.
 
maineman said:
1. it was at night.... UN markings on the roof of an OP are not lit up.
2. UNTSO was there to "supervise" a "truce" Once war started, and there was no "truce" to "supervise", they had no reason to be there and should have been pulled, along with the observers in the other four UNTSO observation posts in southern lebanon rather than keep them in harm's way for no purpose. I fault the chief of OGL (Observer Group Lebanon) totally.
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I have to believe that Israel knows where the UN posts are. They must know this, they are the most sophisticated, militarily advanced, well funded military in the middle east. I highly doubt that they wouldn't know their target, and if they don't then they are waging a reckless war that really isn't that different from shooting rockets arbitrarily.

UNTSO is probably a bureaucratic mes like the rest of the UN.. Perhaps there is a bit of responsibility on the higher ups putting people in a warzone when they need not be there, but this is typical of the UN.

Bottom line, I get your point, but I do not absolve either party of any responsibility. Sadly, this is really turning into a war, rather than a skirmish. Its fucking awful, and I really wish it didn't have to be this way, but there are really no solutions to this problem that are viable in practice. However, it is imperative that civilian loss of live is minimized. The irony of the situation is that soldier deaths are relatively meaningless to either side, it is the civilian deaths on Lebanon's side that give Lebanon creedence in their battle. We both know that there will be far more civilian deaths north of the border.

That's the flake the snowball will be built upon.
 
i don't know a good war will provide a lot of entertainment for a while. it's also kinda nice for the whole world to be pissed off at a different country for a change.

god bless israel for taking some of the heat, that's a team player.
 
Grind said:
i don't know a good war will provide a lot of entertainment for a while. it's also kinda nice for the whole world to be pissed off at a different country for a change.

god bless israel for taking some of the heat, that's a team player.
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Israel's heat is our heat. Good god man, surely you know this by now.
 
beefy...Israel knows exactly where the observation posts are....I know right where they are. I have spent many weeks in that OP in Khiam...it is literally across a dirt path from the rest of the city of Khiam.... I have no idea if Hezbollah had rocket launchers right next door or not...but if they did, Israel has every right to go after those sites.... and the dumbass UNTSO/OGL bosses in Naqoura should have pulled every UNMO out of the field the minute the war went hot.
 
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