It was NOT primarily a bad Harris Campaign, it was suppression of the Dem Vote Fraud!
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19 states use Dominion Voting Machines, including my home state, which is unusual in that we use 100% Dominion Machines, most states do not.
It doesn't really matter, all voting machines can be fraud manipulated, If there are no vote integrity Monitors from BOTH major political parties controlling access to the physical machines as well as watching the software access monitoring software systems. aka viewing the access logs and checking the software parity sums.
Dominion Machines are much more easily tampered with than most others, but any machine can be manipulated, if no one is allowed to monitor the access to them.
At least in 2024, unlike 2020, we didn't have Dem ONLY pole workers boarding up the windows of count locations, to block monitors and the press from seeing what they were doing.
The voting machine type of Vote-fraud that is most detrimental, is called "Ballot Tabulator Conversion Fraud", were a person casts their ballot vote as a Red Vote, but then an hidden in the boot-sector vector launches an algorithm which monitors the percentages of ballot cast, and converts the needed number of Red Votes, as summed, into Blue Votes, to achieve the dialed in percentage of total outcome of Votes.
This process is clever because it does not cause an indication of fraud by causing the total number of votes cast for an area to exceed the number of voters registered. Instead it causes a few people only, just the dialed in amount of persons votes to be counted in favor of the opposite political parties votes. Hence it is called "Conversion". IAW, we don't see 220% voter turn out, so it is not obvious that something is wrong.
Yes, counting the paper ballots, is the counter to "Ballot Tabulator Conversion Fraud", but those manual recounts are only done if a few key election official raise concerns about the validity of the counts, and have enough evidence of possible fraud, to force and pay the funds for, a manual recount. It is a very expensive process, $100s of dollars per vote manually recounted. It is very hard to get the election division to pay for the expense of the process. It is usually NOT done, even when there are lots of indicators that fraud took place.
And then, the manual recount is only effective, if the counters are not ALL people from one political party, and the windows to the room in which the manual recount is being done, doesn't have its doors locked and the windows boarded over!
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ZenMode
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what state do you live in?
BartenderElite
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I hope we've heard that last of "rigged elections." Even up until yesterday, Trump was telling anyone who would listen how much fraud was going on. I doubt we'll hear about that now.
T. A. Gardner
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I will say this:
There were no 2 am "ballot dumps" this time... I wonder why...
There were no 2 am "ballot dumps" this time... I wonder why...
BartenderElite
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Still at it.
T. A. Gardner
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Valid observation.
You cannot understand how stupid that post was.
Election fraud always happens, and it will never "End". Some political leans do it allot more than others.
Proper procedures, hardware, software, and following the LAW can limit it to a level that prevents illegitimate Presidents from gaining office.
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BartenderElite
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Perpetuating a known falsehood.
T. A. Gardner
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Were there 2 am ballot dumps this time?
BartenderElite
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Were there last time?
Milwaukee didn't report most of their votes until after the election was called last night. Was that a "ballot dump?" Or was it just the usual election where some large cities or areas reported late because counts took longer?
"Election rigged" claims are embarrassing, and I hope they're done now that Trump won & can't run again.
Were there boarded up windows at ballot counting locations?
The efforts made to achieve Vote Integrity in 2024 made all the difference, as can be seen in the suspect counties total vote counts matching the numbers of people in the census for those areas. They did not match in 2020. 200%+ turnouts should be an indication, but was ignored... but not this year.
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T. A. Gardner
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There were ballot dumps in 2020. Whether they were legitimate or not, isn't the question on the table. There were "ballot dumps."
No, ‘ballot dumps’ in key states were not a magical surprise
The day after Election Day, as Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden was gaining ground in key battleground states,
www.politifact.com
There were none this time.
Those are facts. The legitimacy of the ones in 2020 is a separate question. But that's in the past and I'm not reopening that wound for discussion.
Lao Tse
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BartenderElite
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My guess is that "fraud" claims disappear until the Republicans lose again.
I hope it's not the case - but I think the idea of massive fraud has become ingrained on that side now. I think there are millions who legit will think that if their candidate loses, it's rigged.
I hope it's not the case - but I think the idea of massive fraud has become ingrained on that side now. I think there are millions who legit will think that if their candidate loses, it's rigged.
T. A. Gardner
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me...
Too funny, even when they win they still have to hold on to their conspiracies and existential threats
You've got your cause and effect backwards.
The GOP won because this year, unlike 2020, they took the Election System Integrity issues seriously.
Now they just need to:
dump McConnell as Senate leadership,
...primary their RINOS and Uniparty insider Trading maggots,
... then deal with Morena/Cartel interference in border state elections,
... do something significant about political affiliation employment discrimination,
... and also block Russian, Chinese and Iranian election tampering, and we'll have a GOP worthy of my leaving the Democratic Party, and going Republican.
The GOP still has allot of smelly spots, but it is getting better.
The Dems have become scary bad. The Morena thing has reached the point were people are being murdered or/and having their homes burned-out based on Political Lean in border states.
Dealing with Morena is going to be the next big political thing!!!!
But for now, I'm still officially a registered Dem, because I need a job!
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