It Was the Epstein Shutdown All Along

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Supporters of President Donald Trump have cheered the comments made by Jeffery Epstein's imprisoned former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell in interviews with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.

They shared sections from Maxwell's testimony where she says she never saw Trump engaged in any form of sexual behavior on social media after transcripts of the interviews were released by the Department of Justice on Friday.
Juanita Broaddrick signed an affidavit saying Bill Clinton was never inappropriate with her, and she was an adult.
 
Two things.

They can’t charge him until he’s out of office.

What difference does it make? We all know his character anyway. There’s no direct evidence that he’s fucked farm animals either. But it certainly would not surprise me.
I don't know about that.
I thought that he couldn't be charged with things he did in doing his job as President , This sure the hell doesn't have anything to do with the job of being President.
 
I don’t think that bothers them 1 inch. I think they are waiting for someone to tell him how to defend it.
Would the magats here defend such a crime? Be careful with your wording as we know there really isn't free speech in regards to this topic.
 
I don't know about that.
I thought that he couldn't be charged with things he did in doing his job as President , This sure the hell doesn't have anything to do with the job of being President.
The immunity thing SCOTUS gave him is a separate issue. Presidents don’t get charged while in office. The only remedy is impeachment and that ain’t gonna happen.
 
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Epstein files release indicates Trump ***** those kids and his pedo-apologist supporters aren’t going to give a shit



Alright MAGA let’s hear your new spin on Trump’s pedophile behavior you sick fucks.

From the NYT,

“House Democrats on Wednesday released emails in which Jeffrey Epstein wrote that President Trump had “spent hours at my house” with one of Mr. Epstein’s victims, among other messages that suggested that the convicted sex offender believed Mr. Trump knew more about his abuse than he has acknowledged.

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In one of the messages, Mr. Epstein flatly asserted that Mr. Trump “knew about the girls,” many of whom were later found by investigators to have been underage. In another, Mr. Epstein pondered how to address questions from the news media about their relationship as Mr. Trump was becoming a national political figure.

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In one email from April 2011, Mr. Epstein told Ms. Maxwell, who was later convicted on charges related to facilitating his crimes, “I want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is Trump.” He added that an unnamed victim “spent hours at my house with him ,,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/us/politics/trump-epstein-emails.html

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/12/nx-s1-5605582/epstein-files-release-trump-email-grijalva-massieTrump = Pedophile
 
They have so far.
Not only have they but Senators like McConnell have even come out and said they broke their oath to vote on the evidence presented at trump's impeachment.
McConnell came right out and said the evidence DID show that Trump did what he was charged with but he and several other Senators were NOT going to remove him from office.
IF they had stood behind the oath they took we wouldn't be having the problems we are having with Trump now.
Congress should make a law that when Senators break an oath they take like this they would be held for it and maybe removed from office, but that will never happen.
 
Not only have they but Senators like McConnell have even come out and said they broke their oath to vote on the evidence presented at trump's impeachment.
McConnell came right out and said the evidence DID show that Trump did what he was charged with but he and several other Senators were NOT going to remove him from office.
IF they had stood behind the oath they took we wouldn't be having the problems we are having with Trump now.
Congress should make a law that when Senators break an oath they take like this they would be held for it and maybe removed from office, but that will never happen.
Correct. But that “if” never happened and now we have to face the reality that we have this guy for the rest of his term unless he dies sooner. We can only hope.

Midterms are in a year. That’s about the best this country can get until then. And that will probably make little to no difference.
 
Correct. But that “if” never happened and now we have to face the reality that we have this guy for the rest of his term unless he dies sooner. We can only hope.

Midterms are in a year. That’s about the best this country can get until then. And that will probably make little to no difference.
Yep but again Senators that break their oath should have to face being brought up on charges for doing so.
When you take an oath you should have to stand behind it and if you don't there should be consequences for not standing behind it.
 

It Was the Epstein Shutdown All Along​

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There was always something inexplicably strange about the recent government shutdown. From the beginning, it was crystal clear what Democrats wanted: lower health care costs, affordability and for a lawless president to start obeying the law.

But what about the Republicans?

It was never clear what they wanted to end the shutdown. Even in opposing Democratic demands, Senate Republicans seemed like zombies walking slowly through the halls of Congress, uncertain of why they were there and where they were going.

House Republicans didn’t even bother showing up to work. This is no exaggeration. Until Nov. 10, the last day the House was in session was Sept. 19 — 11 days before the shutdown even began nearly two months ago.

During the shutdown, many theories emerged as to what Republicans were up to. But there was one explanation that I kept hearing from House Democrats: it was all about the Epstein Files.

In a nutshell, prior to the shutdown, Democrats were one member short of forcing the House to vote on releasing the Epstein Files. Adelita Grijalva — a newly elected Democrat from Arizona — would provide the final vote needed. For that to happen, she had to be sworn in, and for her to be sworn in, the House had to be in session.

For House Speaker Mike Johnson, the shutdown was the perfect scapegoat, and keeping it alive was the only way for Trump and the House GOP to avoid a vote on releasing the Epstein Files — a vote Trump was nearly certain to lose. As Rep. Eric Swalwell told me, “We have shut down the government to protect Donald Trump and how close he is to the Epstein Files.”

Like many Democrats, I considered this theory as just that: a theory competing with other plausible explanations. Perhaps the GOP wanted to use the shutdown to fire government workers. Maybe Trump wanted to use the shutdown to weaken the Affordable Care Act. Maybe it was all just an effort to distract from high prices.

With the stunning release of new emails, we learned it probably was the Epstein Files all along. At a minimum, Epstein emails indicate that Trump was aware of some of what the convicted pedophile was up to, writing that Trump “knew about the girls.” There are other emails, but you get the gist.

So, if the shutdown was actually about concealing the Epstein Files, it raises the question: In what other ways have they been driving the president’s actions?

There are several well-accepted theories about what has motivated the Trump administration during its first 10 months in office: a desire to be an autocrat, revenge against political opponents, the implementation of Project 2025. But if you look back on the last year, it seems increasingly clear that the White House has been obsessed with containing the damage and fallout from the Epstein Files.


The pundit and political class have tended to downplay the Epstein Files because they believe it’s too salacious and not serious enough to drive government policy and decision-making. Except, they are doing just that. Dismissing the importance of the Files ignores who Trump is and who he has always been.

Trump is the guy in the Access Hollywood tape. He is the man who paid off a porn star to conceal an affair. He is the person accused of and found liable for sexual assault. He is, as Spy Magazine called him decades ago, a “short fingered vulgarian.”

The government closure may be behind us. Health care costs are still a crisis for tens of millions of Americans. Affordability in general plagues even more.

But for the guy in the White House — and his GOP sycophants — all of that pales in comparison to concern over the Epstein Files. It is what is driving their thinking and, most importantly, his actions.

For Democrats and others in the pro-democracy movement, it’s time for us to center this issue.

While it is true that Trump is motivated in his pursuit of power, it is also true that he is driven to conceal the thing that threatens that power: whatever is hidden in the Epstein Files.

We cannot be above talking about this issue — it influences Trump’s choices on cabinet picks, the economy, and free and fair elections. It is the one thing that alienates Trump from his base — and he knows that. We need to talk about it.

And now, we need to take this opportunity to look forward and think about what happens next. Congresswoman Grijalva has officially been sworn in. This will provide the final signature needed to compel a vote to release the Epstein Files. If all goes as expected, Trump and Speaker Johnson will lose that vote.

Whatever is in the files has kept the government closed, captivated the Department of Justice and kept Donald Trump awake at night. When we finally see what is inside the case file, we need to make sure he is held accountable.
Desperation in the morning
 
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