It was the state attorney's office, not local authorities

[Don Quixote]

Three things do stand out.
Martin was in an area that he doesn't live in and ran, like a thug.
He was licensed to carry the firearm.
Zimmerman was also in a public area and Martin shouldn't have tried to take his gun, like a thug.

you must really hate martin, he was living their at the time and had every reason to be there lawfully

and when did it become fact that he was running?

also, while he was licensed for a ccwp, he was not further licensed to be performing a job while carrying according to a legal pundit on cnn

he is just a cop wanna be and poor one at that

 

[USFREEDOM911]

you must really hate martin, he was living their at the time and had every reason to be there lawfully

and when did it become fact that he was running?

also, while he was licensed for a ccwp, he was not further licensed to be performing a job while carrying according to a legal pundit on cnn

he is just a cop wanna be and poor one at that

You must really love thugs like Martin; but I never said that he was there illegally.
Care to show me where I said that; unless you're just full of shit.

The 911 call says he took off running and it was probably to hide his stash.

And we all know that all pundits on CNN are always truthful.

Martin was a wanna-be thug, acted like one, and paid the price for assaulting someone.

 

[Don Quixote]

You must really love thugs like Martin; but I never said that he was there illegally.
Care to show me where I said that; unless you're just full of shit.

The 911 call says he took off running and it was probably to hide his stash.

And we all know that all pundits on CNN are always truthful.

Martin was a wanna-be thug, acted like one, and paid the price for assaulting someone.

you said that he was likely running to hide his stash of stolen stuff

 

[USFREEDOM911]

you said that he was likely running to hide his stash of stolen stuff

NO, I said he was running to stash his stash.
I dare you to show where I said he was running to hid anything stolen.
This is a new low for you though.
Congratulations on morphing into a troll.

 

[Don Quixote]

NO, I said he was running to stash his stash.
I dare you to show where I said he was running to hid anything stolen.
This is a new low for you though.
Congratulations on morphing into a troll.

if i could, i would delete the string of posts, however, you are correct in that i used the wrong forum for my problem so i posted it under announcements

 

[SmarterthanYou]

he brought the gun to the situation

this is everyones issue, right here. the bias against guns is simply fuel to the race card. the rest is just window dressing.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

so what. you don't think he was treated at the scene? how long after the altercation was the video taken?

The only thing I got out of the video is that Zimmerman is not the fat fuck he appeared to be in the first picture of him published. That's about the only conclusion I could draw from that. The police did seem to be treating him with kid gloves for someone who had just killed a person but you can't draw any conclusions from that.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News.

Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him, punching him.

The new information is the most complete version yet of what Zimmerman claims happened on the night of Feb. 26 when he shot and killed the teenager.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239#.T3PFijHOz5F

Unfortunately Zimmermans side of the story is heresay with out witnesses to collaborate his story. Unfortunately Trayvon is too dead to tell his side of the story.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

You're doing a damn good job of giving Zimmerman more leeway for his actions than you're giving Martin.

No, actually I think Yurt is being fair minded and objective. There's not a whole lot of hard evidence to evaluate in this case. There's Zimmermans side of the story and a police report that doesn't really tell a whole hell of a lot. Alls we really know for a fact is that Zimmerman provoked a confrontation and a confrontaion did occur in which Trayvon was fatally shot. Other than that, we don't know a hell of a lot of the details or facts.

My concern is that Zimmerman did provoce a confrontation and a death resulted. I think Justice would indicate that he be charged with manslaughter and let a Jury determine his innocence or guilt and not a States Attourney. That was a big mistake by the States Atty to advise this, IMHO. Secondarily, I would like to know if the Stand Your Ground law had a direct affect that contributed directly to this killing or the decision not to file manslaughter charges. If so, that's a law that's broken and needs to be fixed or repealed. Thirdly, I want to know if in any manner at all, were the actions taken by Zimmerman or the police involve racial profiling or discrimination. I feel fairly comfortable that the police are probably not guilty of racial profiling or discrimination based on how the investigation has proceeded to this point.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Unfortunately Zimmermans side of the story is heresay with out witnesses to collaborate his story. Unfortunately Trayvon is too dead to tell his side of the story.

why can't people use correct legal terms? the direct participants testimony is NOT hearsay. good god. now, testimony from zimmermans brother/mother/grandmother, THAT would be hearsay.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

My concern is that Zimmerman did provoce a confrontation and a death resulted. I think Justice would indicate that he be charged with manslaughter and let a Jury determine his innocence or guilt and not a States Attourney. That was a big mistake by the States Atty to advise this, IMHO.

this would be a huge mistake, if for anything other than forcing a fast trial resulting in acquittal..only to have someone come forth later and provide the silver bullet that would have convicted him.

Secondarily, I would like to know if the Stand Your Ground law had a direct affect that contributed directly to this killing or the decision not to file manslaughter charges. If so, that's a law that's broken and needs to be fixed or repealed.

in what way do you think wonder this? are you referring to ignorance of the law?

 

[Rune]

so the cops are lying?

Yeah, we know that has never happened before

 

[Rune]

I must defend the racist murderer no matter how stupid it makes me look.

I see. Why is that?

 

[Rune]

I am capable of morphing any discussion into one about guns, regardless of blatant racism and paranoia.

We know. You should look deep into yourself to understand why.

 

[Rune]

No, actually I think Yurt is being fair minded and objective. There's not a whole lot of hard evidence to evaluate in this case. There's Zimmermans side of the story and a police report that doesn't really tell a whole hell of a lot. Alls we really know for a fact is that Zimmerman provoked a confrontation and a confrontaion did occur in which Trayvon was fatally shot. Other than that, we don't know a hell of a lot of the details or facts.

My concern is that Zimmerman did provoce a confrontation and a death resulted. I think Justice would indicate that he be charged with manslaughter and let a Jury determine his innocence or guilt and not a States Attourney. That was a big mistake by the States Atty to advise this, IMHO. Secondarily, I would like to know if the Stand Your Ground law had a direct affect that contributed directly to this killing or the decision not to file manslaughter charges. If so, that's a law that's broken and needs to be fixed or repealed. Thirdly, I want to know if in any manner at all, were the actions taken by Zimmerman or the police involve racial profiling or discrimination. I feel fairly comfortable that the police are probably not guilty of racial profiling or discrimination based on how the investigation has proceeded to this point.

Disagree with two points,
1. Of course yurt is being biased, in your noble attempt to be fair minded you are overlooking the obvious.
2. I am not comfortable at all with the police response and neither are they, hence the suspended police chief. Pull your rose colored glasses off for minute.

 

[Rune]

why can't people use correct legal terms? the direct participants testimony is NOT hearsay. good god. now, testimony from zimmermans brother/mother/grandmother, THAT would be hearsay.

Other than Zim, the only information available is hearsay. Better?

 

[Rune]

this would be a huge mistake, if for anything other than forcing a fast trial resulting in acquittal..only to have someone come forth later and provide the silver bullet that would have convicted him.

in what way do you think wonder this? are you referring to ignorance of the law?

I imagine he is reffering to your ignorance, for not realizing that the stand your ground law is likely what disuaded the state's attorney from pressing charges

 

[Mott the Hoople]

this would be a huge mistake, if for anything other than forcing a fast trial resulting in acquittal..only to have someone come forth later and provide the silver bullet that would have convicted him.

Well that makes no sense. So you let the guy walk instead?

in what way do you think wonder this? are you referring to ignorance of the law?

What do you mean "in what way do I wonder this"? I wonder in all ways! Simply stated if there's something wrong with this law that is causing people to die uneccessarily than it needs to be fixed or repealed whatever that problem may be.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

We know. You should look deep into yourself to understand why.

No shit man.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Disagree with two points,
1. Of course yurt is being biased, in your noble attempt to be fair minded you are overlooking the obvious.
2. I am not comfortable at all with the police response and neither are they, hence the suspended police chief. Pull your rose colored glasses off for minute.

How is Yurt being biased? He simply states that there are not a lot of facts to go on. He's right.

Obviously I am in the minority about racial profiling but I really haven't seen a lot, if any, evidence that racial profiling or discrimination were involved in the police investigation. I'm not discounting the possibility and I certainly understand African Americans sensitivity to this issue. Zimmerman though is another case. I think it's obvious that he did racially profile Trayvon.