It was the state attorney's office, not local authorities

none said:
thank you rana. but claiming he was suspended is not accurate. he voluntary stepped down on a temporary basis. suspending someone carries a specific meaning. and dune was not at all accurate in claiming he was suspended.
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Well, none, the media is calling it a self suspension, so whether you agree or don't, It is referenced a self suspension. Meaning he stopped himself from doing the job, which looks better than your bosses doing it, but it still means you are no longer doing the job.
 
Rana said:
He suspended himself and the City Council gave him a "no confidence" vote. The case is still being reviewed by the city manager and the mayor, pending further investigation into the matter.
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A point Dune should pay attention to.

4. The recently temporarily, self-suspended Sanford Police Chief, Bill Lee, said, "“Until we can establish probable cause to dispute that (Zimmerman acted in self defense), we don’t have the grounds to arrest him.” Why was his claim of self-defense considered sufficient?
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It appears from what we now know, the call was not made by Lee. It also is not that it was just Zimmermans 'claim' that was sufficient, you also have to consider the fact that they had the injuries to Zimmerman that also corroborated (or at least appeared to) Zimmermans statement.

Why did the chief accept that assertion?
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Because the DA stated they did not have enough evidence to charge him at that time.

Did they do a background check on Zimmerman? Was his past arrest for resisting arrest without violence sufficient to earn an extra "look see" at Zimmerman's claim?
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this is completely irrelevant to this case

Did the police check for any probable cause Zimmerman had to shoot Trayvon? Was Zimmerman tested for drugs or alcohol?* If he wasn't, why wasn't he?* Did they take Zimmerman's gun?* Did they give it back if they did? If they did not, where is the gun now?
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Defensive wounds would be probable cause. What reason would they have to test Zimmerman for drugs or alcohol?
I would assume they took his gun and that it is evidence at this time. Not positive, but I would doubt they would give the weapon back to him.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
touchy touchy. lots of people should have the freedom to walk around without being murdered, but we don't always get what we want, do we? now why don't you explain to us why one persons rights should exceed anyone elses?
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[h=3]Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness[/h]
Martin should not have to fear for his life; Martin should have the liberty to come and go freely; Martin should have had the chance to grow up and pursue his path in life.
 
christiefan915 said:
And I never said the name-calling was in this thread. Care to apologize, or will you just continue with your OCD behaviour?
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you claimed you did not say it. i showed that was not true. are you going to be an adult and apologize?

wait...so you quote my post that has no name calling in it and call me nuts for resorting to name calling when people don't agree with me. yeah....that makes perfect sense. not.

you lied, you thought i insulted you but now won't admit i did not.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
accosted? I can stop and ask you questions all fucking day, that doesn't give you the right to hit me, got it? why are you not addressing the reports of martin attacking zimmerman? WHY!?!??!?!?!
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Correction: you can stop and try to ask me questions all day and if I don't care to answer, I have the right to walk away without being followed.
 
none said:
you claimed you did not say it. i showed that was not true. are you going to be an adult and apologize?

wait...so you quote my post that has no name calling in it and call me nuts for resorting to name calling when people don't agree with me. yeah....that makes perfect sense. not.

you lied, you thought i insulted you but now won't admit i did not.
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"Real debate"...lol
 
Rana said:
He suspended himself and the City Council gave him a "no confidence" vote. The case is still being reviewed by the city manager and the mayor, pending further investigation into the matter.

4. The recently temporarily, self-suspended Sanford Police Chief, Bill Lee, said, "“Until we can establish probable cause to dispute that (Zimmerman acted in self defense), we don’t have the grounds to arrest him.” Why was his claim of self-defense considered sufficient? Why did the chief accept that assertion? Did they do a background check on Zimmerman? Was his past arrest for resisting arrest without violence sufficient to earn an extra "look see" at Zimmerman's claim? Did the police check for any probable cause Zimmerman had to shoot Trayvon? Was Zimmerman tested for drugs or alcohol?* If he wasn't, why wasn't he?* Did they take Zimmerman's gun?* Did they give it back if they did? If they did not, where is the gun now?

Continue reading on Examiner.com Trayvon Martin Case: Leaked police report raises more questions than it answers. - Baltimore liberal | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/liberal-in-...-more-questions-than-it-answers#ixzz1qWpSxkAZ
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Careful, yurt's going to come back with some picayune argument that "suspended" isn't the same as "self-suspended".
 
none said:
you claimed you did not say it. i showed that was not true. are you going to be an adult and apologize?

wait...so you quote my post that has no name calling in it and call me nuts for resorting to name calling when people don't agree with me. yeah....that makes perfect sense. not.

you lied, you thought i insulted you but now won't admit i did not.
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This is so incoherent I don't even know how to respond.
 
christiefan915 said:
This is so incoherent I don't even know how to respond.
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let me dumb it down for you:

you quote a post and accuse me of name calling. that post did not contain any name calling. it makes no sense for you to quote a post, yet actually be talking about another post in the middle of our debate. there were insults, you made it up because you got upset i called you out for saying it was because he was black...which you denied saying.

that help?
 
Don Quixote said:
if i could, i would delete the string of posts, however, you are correct in that i used the wrong forum for my problem so i posted it under announcements
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You and I have had really good discussions, in the past, even though we were on opposite sides of the fence.
I found your stance on this issue, to be totally out of character and revealed a bias that I didn't think you would ever use.
I would rather get back to having discussions, rather then just throwing strawmen at each other.
 
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