It's a sideshow of idiots & morons puking stupidity.

[RB 60]

You are seriously misinformed, nothing surprising there. The only country with the issues that you are complaining about is the UK, which doesn't have single payer health insurance, but has actual government run healthcare. Even so, most of their population is quite happy with their system. Canada has a few issues, mostly because their population density can't support large centers of expertise. If necessary, Canadians are sent here for treatment and their government pays for it. Thousands of Americans travel to other countries for medical care, and pay for it out of their own pocket. Many times more than come here for treatment. No U.S. state has implemented it because most are infested with Republicans, who, like you, are paranoid about the idea. Yet, virtually everywhere it's in force, the increase in taxes to pay for it has been less than the premiums that were being paid for private insurance. So, again, costs less and provides better outcomes.

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"Most of those patients in search of the best care, including 38% from Latin America, 35% from the Middle East, 16% from Europe and 7% from Canada, are heading to the United States. Additionally, it's estimated that 32% of all medical travelers simply want better care than is available in their home countries, mostly those in the developing world, and 15% want quicker access to medically necessary procedures."

https://www.forbes.com/2008/05/25/h...ing08_0529healthoutsourcing.html#251a971252e1

 

[Robo]

Not if you refuse to believe it. Robo simply says the opposite of the truth and declares victory. He cannot understand how bad and expensive our healthcare is.

If that's true, how come you & your partner in crime rjhenn refuse to answer the question I keep challenging y'all with, like,
'If a single payer healthcare system is the answer to America's healthcare issues, then how come not a single American state has instituted a single payer system?" I'll understand if you keep refusing to answer that question.

He cannot understand global warming is real and man is a huge contributor. That is because he does not want to believe. That is all he requires.

Of course that's exactly why a huge collection of America's Hollywood celebrities & other millionaires & billionaires sooooo concerned with global warming just flew their private jets to Italy for the Climate Change circle jerk, spewing tons of CO2 into earth's atmosphere & your "Earth In The Balance" hero Al Gore's house has a carbon footprint exceeding Godzilla's and heated sidewalks to boot, SUCH BELIEVERS are to be believed, right? "There's a sucker born every day!"

 

[Robo]

You are seriously misinformed, nothing surprising there. The only country with the issues that you are complaining about is the UK, which doesn't have single payer health insurance, but has actual government run healthcare. Even so, most of their population is quite happy with their system.

Britain's Failing Nationalized Health System https://www.dailywire.com/news/14470/7-things-you-need-know-about-britains-failing-aaron-bandler

U.S. Shouldn't Copy U.K.'s Failed Single-Payer Health Care .. https://www.investors.com/politics/...s-collapsing-single-payer-health-care-system/

NHS: UK now has one of the worst healthcare systems in the world..https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...-world-according-to-oecd-report-a6721401.html

Notice please I provide the “EVIDENCE” for my arguments!

Canada has a few issues, mostly because their population density can't support large centers of expertise. If necessary, Canadians are sent here for treatment and their government pays for it.

But you claim America’s healthcare sucks soooooooo bad, why would any Canadian come here for anything related to healthcare?

Canada’s health-care system is failing...https://www.fraserinstitute.org/art...anadas-health-care-system-is-failing-patients

The reason the Canadian health-care system works as well as it does (and that is not by any means optimal) is because 90 percent of the population is within driving distance of the United States...https://www.nationalreview.com/2017...-health-care-system-failures-cautionary-tale/


Mountain-bike enthusiast Suzanne Aucoin had to fight more than her Stage IV colon cancer. Her doctor suggested Erbitux—a proven cancer drug that targets cancer cells exclusively, unlike conventional chemotherapies that more crudely kill all fast-growing cells in the body—and Aucoin went to a clinic to begin treatment. But if Erbitux offered hope, Aucoin’s insurance didn’t: she received one inscrutable form letter after another, rejecting her claim for reimbursement. Yet another example of the callous hand of managed care, depriving someone of needed medical help, right? Guess again. Erbitux is standard treatment, covered by insurance companies—in the United States. Aucoin lives in Ontario, Canada...https://www.city-journal.org/html/ugly-truth-about-canadian-health-care-13032.html

Thousands of Americans travel to other countries for medical care, and pay for it out of their own pocket. Many times more than come here for treatment.

How many go to single payer countries for care, supply evidence please!

No U.S. state has implemented it because most are infested with Republicans, who, like you, are paranoid about the idea.

Like New York, California & Massachusetts who have done studies on single payer for their states & discovered there was no bleeping way they could shove the taxes necessary to pay for it down their population’s throats & they dropped the folly as “unaffordable.”

Yet, virtually everywhere it's in force, the increase in taxes to pay for it has been less than the premiums that were being paid for private insurance. So, again, costs less and provides better outcomes.

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Again friend, every single payer country has a bleeping fraction of the population of the United States. They’re brainwashed accustom to high taxes & long waiting times for care & their governments pay a fraction for their national defense as compared to what America pays for America’s national defense and the national defense, NATO, that defends your precious single payer nations. Triple wait times for care relative to America’s wait times is hardly “better outcomes.”

You pal call me uninformed, when I’ve studied single payer since its inception back in the 50's. Every negative predicted about it has come true, outrageous tax rates, long & longer wait times for care, doctor shortages, rationed care & BIG government deciding who lives & who dies, just to mention a few. You need to search and discover the fucking lies that the leftist WHO, (World Health Organization) tells about life expectancies between America’s healthcare system and single payer nations healthcare systems and other claims they make & how they come to their lying assed conclusions.

 

[Gonzomin]

If that's true, how come you & your partner in crime rjhenn refuse to answer the question I keep challenging y'all with, like,
'If a single payer healthcare system is the answer to America's healthcare issues, then how come not a single American state has instituted a single payer system?" I'll understand if you keep refusing to answer that question.



Of course that's exactly why a huge collection of America's Hollywood celebrities & other millionaires & billionaires sooooo concerned with global warming just flew their private jets to Italy for the Climate Change circle jerk, spewing tons of CO2 into earth's atmosphere & your "Earth In The Balance" hero Al Gore's house has a carbon footprint exceeding Godzilla's and heated sidewalks to boot, SUCH BELIEVERS are to be believed, right? "There's a sucker born every day!"

That is how the Canadian healthcare system started. Tommy Douglas was head of Saskatchewan and he instituted universal care in his province. It was so correct a thing to do, that the whole country adopted it. He is still the most popular Candian politician of all time.
But he did not have to deal with the crushing power and money of big PHARM, hospitals and insurance companies. They have the power to sabotage every attempt to help the people at the expense of their billions in profit. He did not have to fight the Republicans who have totally bought into a party that works for the plutocrats and the corporations. Uninformed people like you make it a lot tougher.

 

[rjhenn]

If that's true, how come you & your partner in crime rjhenn refuse to answer the question I keep challenging y'all with, like,
'If a single payer healthcare system is the answer to America's healthcare issues, then how come not a single American state has instituted a single payer system?" I'll understand if you keep refusing to answer that question.



Of course that's exactly why a huge collection of America's Hollywood celebrities & other millionaires & billionaires sooooo concerned with global warming just flew their private jets to Italy for the Climate Change circle jerk, spewing tons of CO2 into earth's atmosphere & your "Earth In The Balance" hero Al Gore's house has a carbon footprint exceeding Godzilla's and heated sidewalks to boot, SUCH BELIEVERS are to be believed, right? "There's a sucker born every day!"

You prove that last with your support of Trump.
And the majority of medical tourism is from the United states, not to. Your source only looked at the one side of the issue. Much like you only look at one side of any issue.
[URL="https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Americans-look-abroad-to-save-on-health-care-3274578.php]Americans look abroad to save on health care[/URL]
The number of people heading abroad for "medical tourism" could jump tenfold in the next decade, to nearly 16 million Americans a year seeking cheaper knee and hip replacements, nose jobs, prostate and shoulder surgery, and even heart bypasses, according to a forecast by health care consultants at the*Deloitte Center for Health Solutions.
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About 750,000 Americans headed abroad for major health care last year and an estimated 1.5 million will do so this year, according to the report.

And I answered your question. You just refuse to acknowledge the answer.

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[evince]

Robo is Trump as an average guy. He shares Trump's delusions and believes every right-wing lie he encounters. Nothing is free. But universal healthcare is far, far cheaper and more humane.
Only Scientists say global warming is real. I see why you believe right-wing pundits over them. You believe them all the time.
Compared to other industrial nations, our health care system is abysmal. It is nothing that any intelligent person should argue for. You will argue for it.

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