It's official, the GOP is the treason party

[Concart]

It REALLY is. Spot on. The guy looks like a walking corpse.

You guys are fixated on my looks. I'm flattered, but taken. Sorry Stoney. Go creep out on someone else. You too popeye. You've been at sea for too long. Those sheep are probably looking pretty good to you.

 

[Stone]

Yes, you did, because you are a fucking moron. The metro area is the metro area. Not surprised you are too unsophisticated to understand that.

 

[Stone]

He does. I am sure his impotence is not working in his favor either, HA!

Yep. That and he has the short dick man syndrome. It literally seeps from his posts.

 

[Concart]

Wow, now you guys are talking about my dick. Try a different website. Or maybe the two of you could arrange a rendezvous. Who is the bottom?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Nah, all you need to do is automatic voter registration and universal vote by mail, and Conservatives will never win another major election again because most people don't like their policies.

Not sure which banana republics EXPAND the voting franchise, but am interested to hear of any that do.




If the consequence of universal vote by mail and automatic voter registration is one party rule, then it sounds like the other party needs to get its shit together if it wants to compete in the marketplace of ideas for votes.

What does your shitty brand of Conservatism have to offer voters? Nothing of substance that I can see.

Automatic? Why? What if you don't want to register to vote? How do you handle when someone changes their location? What if someone is registered and doesn't vote, for whatever reason?

Universal vote by mail is another issue. How do you verify the person voting is the one to which the ballot was issued? What sort of time period is required here? Is it a good thing to hold an election over say, a month of voting or more?

It sounds to me like what you want is ripe for massive voter fraud that can go completely undetected.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

About twice as many people identify as Democrat vs. Republican.

Actually, if you look at the data, you are completely wrong. Dead, flat wrong.

Nationally, about 35% of the population is registered Democrat. About 30% are Republican. About 40% (yes, it's more than 100 because I'm rounding and averaging this) are Independent / no party preference.

So, while the Democrats do hold a slight advantage in party registration, the largest affiliation of voters today are ones that don't belong to a party.

That's for Oregon for example, a state that leans heavily Democrat.

North Carolina:

The point is, that both the Republicans and Democrats are minority parties in the US today and it is Independent / No party preference voters that decide elections.

 

[LV426]

Automatic? Why? What if you don't want to register to vote?

Then you don't have to vote. You don't have to show up to vote if you don't want to. Not sure why you wouldn't want to vote, but OK...some people are "short bus people" who are "fucking retarded" and have "brain damage".

How do you handle when someone changes their location?

The same way it's handled now in states with automatic voter registration when you move there; when you give your new address to the DMV, they update your voter registration.

This isn't rocket science, and several states already do this.

 

[LV426]

Universal vote by mail is another issue. How do you verify the person voting is the one to which the ballot was issued?

The same way it's done right now and been done for decades.

What sort of time period is required here?

The same time periods that currently exist...usually you have a month or so to fill out and return your ballot from when it's issued, or it needs to be returned by Election Day (or postmarked before Election Day).

I believe the For the People Act (HR 1) expands it to 30 or 60 days prior to the election.

I also would support a proposal to turn every single post office into a polling location that you can visit to cast your ballot if you don't want to vote by mail, and you wouldn't even have to go to a post office in your district to do that.

It sounds to me like what you want is ripe for massive voter fraud that can go completely undetected.

There was no massive voter fraud in the 2020 election despite it being the election with the most absentee and mail-in ballots cast ever.

I don't really see a fundamental argument from you against this proposal.

 

[LV426]

Nationally, about 35% of the population is registered Democrat. About 30% are Republican. About 40% (yes, it's more than 100 because I'm rounding and averaging this) are Independent / no party preference.

OK, so?

So, while the Democrats do hold a slight advantage in party registration, the largest affiliation of voters today are ones that don't belong to a party.

OK, so?

The point is, that both the Republicans and Democrats are minority parties in the US today and it is Independent / No party preference voters that decide elections.

OK, so?

What does this have to do with Conservatives being unable to win over a majority of voters with their politics?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Then you don't have to vote. You don't have to show up to vote if you don't want to. Not sure why you wouldn't want to vote, but OK...some people are "short bus people" who are "fucking retarded" and have "brain damage".

Someone might not want to vote for many reasons including:

Disinterest
Not wanting to encourage the crooks and liars that are on the ballot
In protest. That is not voting is their vote--eg., "None of the above."

The same way it's handled now in states with automatic voter registration when you move there; when you give your new address to the DMV, they update your voter registration.

This isn't rocket science, and several states already do this.

The problem there is if the DMV isn't checking citizenship and hands out licenses to illegals or checking eligibility to vote otherwise and just signing everyone up, you get people registered to vote who aren't legally able to. Also, if using the DMV as the primary means of registering people to vote, then voter ID shouldn't be a problem should it? After all, the person got and ID when they registered to vote.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

What does this have to do with Conservatives being unable to win over a majority of voters with their politics?

That's only true in the Presidential contest.

 

[LV426]

Someone might not want to vote for many reasons including:
Disinterest
Not wanting to encourage the crooks and liars that are on the ballot
In protest. That is not voting is their vote--eg., "None of the above."

Great!

So they don't have to vote.

But if they change their mind, they can.

 

[LV426]

The problem there is if the DMV isn't checking citizenship and hands out licenses to illegals or checking eligibility to vote otherwise and just signing everyone up, you get people registered to vote who aren't legally able to.

Have you ever been to a DMV before?

Also, if using the DMV as the primary means of registering people to vote, then voter ID shouldn't be a problem should it?

Why would you need Voter ID if you're already registered to vote?

After all, the person got and ID when they registered to vote.

Not necessarily.

 

[LV426]

That's only true in the Presidential contest.

And Congressional elections, and the Senate...

Unless you don't think Democrats currently control both chambers?

 

[LV426]

That's only true in the Presidential contest.

So what I don't see from you are any coherent, tangible arguments against automatic voter registration and universal mail-in voting...just a lot of conjecture and poor assumptions. Lots of "Ifs".

The truth is that there is not a valid argument against automatic voter registration or universal mail-in voting, since some states already do both and have done both for a while now without incident.

After all, it wasn't Oregon where a Trump supporter who murdered his wife filled out her ballot for her and sent it in; that happened in a state that didn't have automatic voter registration and universal mail-in voting.

 

[evince]

if this doesn't destroy that historically treasonous party there's literally nothing that will

Oh they are toast


The state republicans are beginning to revolt


They see the writing on the wall


Stay with trump and you will be destroyed

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Have you ever been to a DMV before?

Yes. They're quite the clusterfuck of inefficiency.

Why would you need Voter ID if you're already registered to vote?

Why would you need ID if you already have a bank account?

Not necessarily.

Absolutely true since they registered to vote getting their driver's license that acts as a... wait for it... ID!

 

[LV426]

Yes. They're quite the clusterfuck of inefficiency.!

No they're not. Every DMV experience I've ever had has been pleasant and quick.

So why are you lying to me about this?

 

[LV426]

Why would you need ID if you already have a bank account?

What?

Want to retry this sentence?

Did you mean to ask, "why would need a bank account if you already have an ID?"

Absolutely true since they registered to vote getting their driver's license that acts as a... wait for it... ID!

No...in automatic voter registration, you don't always get a license when that happens.

I think you need to do some actual research into this, specifically the states that do automatic voter registration and how that happens, because it's not universally tied to a driver's license.

You do that a lot; you run your mouth about topics you know nothing about but want people to think you do so you can lend yourself some credibility you don't otherwise have. Like the whole Colonial Pipeline thing...how you ran your mouth about meters, completely ignorant of the fact that the distribution network, which contains the meters, wasn't what was hacked. That was you running your big, fat mouth just like you're doing here.

 

[reagansghost]

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