IT'S TIMEALL AMERICANS MUST SUPPORT THEIR LEADER IN THE WAR AGAINST COVID-19

[countryboy]

They should support the leader they elected - Mrs Clinton - and lock up that senile bully who has seized power.

Good Lord, what a retard you are. We elected Donald J. Trump. Oh, and look, your other brother Daryl likes your mental retardation.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

You compound the results. Ever recognize natural perpetual motion being suspended between contracting results never the same reproduction twice and details from now on never duplicating conceptions added or not any more again?

Once you do, actual life doesn't keep secrets, humans do making a career out of ignoring how life works in plain sight socially withn its own species. Won't end well either.

If there is no duplicated, what's to discuss? Chaos is not debateable, surely?

 

[Ron Mars]

I know what your document says, kid. You hate democracy, as you always have. Tell us news!

How long are you going to play this circle jerk.

You f'd up and assumed whoever got the most votes wins ... that's not how it works pops.

Seems you old people would know a thing or two about the Constitution ... oh well.

 

[serenity]

If there is no duplicated, what's to discuss? Chaos is not debateable, surely?

Why isn't chaos debateable, you debate eternity is a figure of speech and not this point the universe remains ever changing details compounding from now on? Deniers win semantics but destroy understanding their natural position as timed apart in plain sight.

You aware what Karma is? Defy real for reality's sake and your reality implodes upon itself. Know why words speculating life is larger than being alive now never stay in pace with life never stays the same here.

2 dimensional logic doesn't match 8 hemispheres separating two 4 dimensional uses of the same periodic elements. Inorganic univeral position and cellular life in its atmosphere att he same time never the same details added twice working the same way constantly.

 

[serenity]

ps, reproduction replaces not duplicates previous total sum. so your use of duplicate was a direct misdirection of what I say and your direction of misleading others to beleive you know something they cannot figure out on their own. Which is why you prefer leaderships over elected representatives as you get to complain regardless what other side takes control.
So thinking outside a box blocks kowing what is inside timed apart so far, correct? 6 sides 8 corners only able to view half at a time.

gee 14 points of ancestry to each added ancestor changing the people populating the atmospehre from now on. Lets play Chinese Checkers.

 

[Ron Mars]

Good Lord, what a retard you are. We elected Donald J. Trump. Oh, and look, your other brother Daryl likes your mental retardation.

leftys have no idea what mob rule looks like ... for them right now it's just another of their means to an end.

If they can't win the votes of the knuckle-dragging rubes in flyover states they'll just have to get rid of the EC ... problem solved.

 

[serenity]

leftys have no idea what mob rule looks like ... for them right now it's just another of their means to an end.

If they can't win the votes of the knuckle-dragging rubes in flyover states they'll just have to get rid of the EC ... problem solved.

Leftys are mob rule so they have every understanding of how that intimidates individualism when always faces "We say so and who are you to stand against us?". It is why they focus on the word democracy because it sets up multi levels of governance from personal social income to global economics.

space time continuum only happens now ancestrally changing people occupying space as timed apart here. They know that and that is their deep dark state secret kept in plain sight.

 

[Mason Michaels]

This is another of my long posts. I realise they are too long for most people to read, but I think to myself: "Well, maybe one or two people will, and maybe they will be able to provide me with some useful feedback ? Because in the longer posts I write and send to JPP, what I am mostly trying to do is get my own thoughts on a particular political issue/s issue I find very complex and very important @down on paper." Having to write down your thoughts in coherent sentences that others will be able to understand - because you have followed the standard rules/conventions of English grammar and syntax - is a discipline. Untangling the many and often complex factors in a messy political question like: "What should Donald Trump do? Right now, he has to to somehow wisely balance the (potentially deadly) risks to the American public posed by COVID-19 if most people are allowed to return to work AGAINST serious harms that could be inflicted on the public if they they do not go back to work, the economy crashes and there is a severe economic recession ?" Forcing yourself to write down your own thoughts on the question is difficult, but helpful in that it forces you to concentrate, draw on your higher rational cognitive functions, and bring them to bear on the problem
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BACKGROUND



I am a great fan of the old wartime, black-and-white B- Movies that featured the adventures of Sherlock Holmes. Eleven of them were made in America by Universal Pictures between 1942 and 1946 and starred Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes and Nigel Bruce as Dr Watson, his good-hearted (but not too bright) companion. The original "Adventures of Sherlock Holmes stories" were written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in the late Victorian era.



During the Second World War, a number Universal's Sherlock Holmes films were shot in the setting of wartime London, for example "Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror" (1942) and "Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon" (1943). In these films, Holmes, the great detective, is retooled as the ultimate counter-intelligence agent who masterfully foils the the plots of Nazi infiltrators and Fifth Columnists. Apart from their value as entertainment, these movies conveyed key British propaganda themes. One was that Britain was involved in a "Peoples War", and key scenes show ordinary members of the British public keen to assist Sherlock Holmes in his efforts to defeat the enemy; indeed, we come to realise that without the contributions of the ordinary Londoner, Holmes would not have prevailed. During the years of the Second World war, English society's notorious class structure was still very much in place: there was the Upper Class, the Middle Class and the Working Class, and these three social groups did not interact. The English class structure was not as rigid as it had been in, say, the later half of the 19th century. Sherlock Holmes symbolised a member of the elite, upper class of English society, but in "Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror" we see him collaborating with London Cockneys (working - class Londoners); all class-related stigma and resentment evaporates, and we note a mutual respect as they work together on the all- important task of foiling the Nazis. The message from the British government was clear, these are desperate times, we must foster a strong ethos of genuine solidarity in the face of this deadly threat to our home. A second critical propaganda theme the wartime Holmes films were intended to convey was the need for constant vigilance against the danger posed by Nazi agents and Fifth Columnists; the public , of course, knew Holmes chiefly as a great detective who solved his crimes by using his razor - sharp powers of observation.The public were also being encouraged to buy war bonds. For example, at the end of one particular Holmes vs the Nazis (I forget which one it was) movie, Holmes and Watson are seen sitting next to each other in a horse-drawn buggy that is travelling down a lane. The camera then zooms in to focus the head and shoulders of the two men. After a few seconds of silence, Watson coughs to clear his throat and says to Holmes: "Damn close thing that, Holmes, but we got the blighter." Holmes, in an intensely sombre tone of voice replies: "Yes, but there'll be more like him, Watson, and we must never let down our guard. We must never let it down, and we will always fight to defend it. For we shall never surrender it - this Island, this Fortress...this England !! Watson then stares ahead with misty "middle-distancing" eyes and mumbles softly:" Well said, Holmes; well said, old man."


So, the messages from the British government in these old wartime movies were that we ,( Englishmen) must come together as one to fight the deadly enemy who would destroy us. We must ALL support each other and work together - (through what will be a very trying time) - to defeat Hitler. United we are strong, divided we are weak. We must also put our faith in our Leader (Winston Churchill/Sherlock Holmes) and give him our support; and we must never lose hope - we must never surrender. These are still (today) some of the most pronounced characteristics of the White English psyche. Whenever in their history, they have faced a "life or death" threat to their nation, they come together to promote an ethos of camaraderie, encouraging each other to keep their spirits high. They do not do this with any Hollywood -type histrionics; it is more about the small gesture: the smile, friendly chat, the understated act of kindness or offer of charity; making sure that an elderly neighbour who lives on her own is OK, by touching base with her during the week.The native White English are a very STOIC people - something not many foreigners understand - there is real "iron in the soul" of the true Englishman/woman. Many, today see the native English as an effete bunch of tea-sipping weaklings and whingers. If that's what you believe, then you have completely misinterpreted them.



I think, that the stoicism of the White English psyche is a psychological trait that has evolved as a result of England's unusually violent and tempestuous history, and the fact that England is a small island separated from Continental Europe, Africa, and other lands by a natural border of sea/ocean ( NB: I know that England itself is not an island, but is located on an island along with other countries like Scotland, and Wales. The thing is that I see the English character and its culture as being so distinctive and historically potent that I have fallen into the habit of referring to the "island of England.)" Throughout much of its history England and Englishmen have been involved in countless large-scale battles and wars. The medieval conflicts such as the Norman Invasion, the Battle of Hastings in 1066; Richard the Lionheart's English Crusaders who fought the Muslim forces on the continent. (And) also, wars like The War of the Roses, the English Civil War, The Battle of Agincourt, The Hundred Years War, The Anglo-Scottish Wars WERE EXEPTIONALLY BRUTAL AND BLOODY AFFAIRS To have your life as a soldier in the 21st century ended by being shot through the head with a round fired from a powerful assault rifle is one thing; but to be hacked to death by a sabre or battle - axe, bludgeoned to death with a mace, or stabbed to death with a pike, is another thing altogether.



As well as military wars, England has, since the era of the Anglo-Saxons, to Brexit in 2016 been subjected almost continuously to social, cultural and economic upheavals or turmoil and political revolutions/dramas of one kind or another. Here are a few examples: The signing of "The Magna Carta" by King John in 1215 near Windsor, would change the Western World forever; The American Constitution/Bill of Rights and the US Declaration of Independence would never have come to exist were it not for the "Magna Carter". That means that America, by which I mean the REAL America and not the socialist dog's breakfast of: multiculturalism; reverse racism (Affirmative Action) illegal immigration; massive Welfare State dependency; mandatory "politically correct" codes of expression; Globalism; Universities staffed by cultural Marxists and Postmodern academics, MUSLIMS sitting in CONGRESS (!!) (!!); the social discord and strife generated by the promotion of leftist Identity Politics. To continue, I mean the REAL America that was envisioned and then brought to life by the Founding Fathers after the Revolutionary War against the British Crown was won, would NEVER have existed (seriously). The Great Famine of 1315 - 1317 hit England's economy very hard and resulted in a cessation of population growth; The":Black Death" of 1346 wiped out half of England's population in short order,; the "Peasant Revolt" of 1387 shook England's feudal order and the reduced the amounts of Royal tax payable for the next 100 years; the events that gave rise to the English Civil War were chiefly to do with divisions in Protestant Church: on the one side were fundamentalist Puritans who were opposed, on the other side, by the Anglican Church whom the Puritans regarded as crypto- Catholic decadents. This argument between the two Protestant group reverberated throughout the entirety of English society: working-class,the gentry, city dwellers and country dwellers. So traumatic was the dispute that a frequent slogan of the times was "the world turned upside down.". In 1592 there was an outbreak of a particularly persistent stain of the "Bubonic Plague." In London, 100,000 odd people were killed by the Plague; and it goes without saying that the economic, cultural and social fall-out from this tragedy would have been profound and long-lasting. Another upheaval was the English Reformation, which is typically associated with King Henry VIII's declaration in 1536, that England has severed all ties with the Church of Rome ( BTW, if you are one of those Lefties who thinks that Donald Trump is a crude, narcissistic, bully and sexist tyrant, let me assure you that he has nothing on Henry VIII. Henry WAS a brutal, egocentric, psychopath with a ferocious temper. If you think Trump has no respect for women because he liked to "grab them by the pussy", then how would you like to have a Head of State who treated all of his SIX wives appalling:, divorcing two, beheading two, having one die shortly after childbirth for whom he showed zero concern, and a final one who was very lucky to survive by outliving him ??; the execution of the autocratic monarch, Charles I, saw England become a Republic under the leadership Oliver Cromwell, yet another tempestuous period of English history. Then in 1688 there was a political revolution in England, but it was a "bloodless revolution" and it was/is called the "Glorious Revolution" In the "Glorious Revolution", Catholic King James II was overthrown and replaced by his Protestant daughter Mary and her Dutch husband William of Orange. The political and social significance of the "Glorious Revolution" was far-reaching. This stems from the fact that Parliament was now established as the ruling power in England. In other words, England shifted from rule under the political principles of absolute monarchy to those of Constitutional Monarchy. I must conclude this list of examples now (because there are literally hundreds that I could cite, so I'll do that with the English Industrial Revolution which began around 1760 and by the time Queen Victoria ascended to the throne (1837) had already begun to radically, extremely and extensively transform EVERY aspect of English society, culture, economics, and politics. One final modern - era example of tempestuous change and upheaval in English society was the election, in 1979, of the ultra Right-wing, Conservative politician, Margaret Thatcher, who would go to form a very close relationship - both personal and political - with American President Ronald Reagan - ("Ronny") - whom she greatly admired.



Lest she be mistaken for a weak, insipid female in the very aggressive, male-dominated world that British politics was 40 years ago, Thatcher famously dubbed herself: "The Iron Lady of Europe", and that was an absolutely perfect sobriquet. She quickly ushered in a radical, new Conservative, political/economic order - that came to be known as Thatcherism. Under the new dispensation, life changed - one way or the other - for every English citizen. Some worshipped her, others despised her; she was an extremely DIVISIVE English leader. The mere mention of her name can still provoke very passionate responses from the English to this day (seriously)


TO BE CONTINUED SHORTLY

No one is going to read this word salad

 

[Bark]

I think the idea of "all Americans have to support" is fundamentally undemocratic and if that is the case why even have elections?

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

How long are you going to play this circle jerk.

You f'd up and assumed whoever got the most votes wins ... that's not how it works pops.

Seems you old people would know a thing or two about the Constitution ... oh well.

I know slave-owners wrote it when they went in with the French autocracy to avoid paying taxes for their defence, aye.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Why isn't chaos debateable, you debate eternity is a figure of speech and not this point the universe remains ever changing details compounding from now on? Deniers win semantics but destroy understanding their natural position as timed apart in plain sight.

You aware what Karma is? Defy real for reality's sake and your reality implodes upon itself. Know why words speculating life is larger than being alive now never stay in pace with life never stays the same here.

2 dimensional logic doesn't match 8 hemispheres separating two 4 dimensional uses of the same periodic elements. Inorganic univeral position and cellular life in its atmosphere att he same time never the same details added twice working the same way constantly.

Yes, I know what karma is. Your views are unusual, but I can't honestly see what there is to discuss.

 

[serenity]

Yes, I know what karma is. Your views are unusual, but I can't honestly see what there is to discuss.

which honesty? social justification(trained to mind) or instinctive balancing(conceived to navigate)?

think out of a box, thinking outside a boxed in narrative, pick yours, mine is on the right?
It only has 14 corners showing instead of 8 on the left. 6 degrees of separation from center balancing as timed apart in life here. Next time I will show ancestral progression that works regardless plant or animal, predator or prey, male or female. 3 perpendicular axses vs 4 digonal contracting results of DNA compounding.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

which honesty? social justification(trained to mind) or instinctive balancing(conceived to navigate)?

think out of a box, thinking outside a boxed in nattartive pick yours, mine is on the right?
View attachment 15098 It only has 15 corners showing instead of 8 on the left.

Can one discuss anything without some element of shared reality? If so, what?

 

[serenity]

Can one discuss anything without some element of shared reality? If so, what?

reality is life defined by vocabulary and historical speculation directing social outcomes from now on. Real time is shared existing as simultaneously here reproductions sustain theaters of doubt verbally, spoken and written rules mentally separating themselves from natural positions as timed apart so far.

The one on the right is ancestral lineage of contracting ancestral progression from previous generations to last generation added to homo sapien species regardless all the titles given in antidiscrimination laws. 16 great great grandparents 8 pink 8 blue. 8 points on 4 parllel vertical axses to center vertical rising half way between the 4 horizontal corners. 4 horizontal corners are grand parents, vertical center vertical are 2 parents, center of all these is each reproduction occupying space now.

In relative time it varies for each lifetime present while working the same way for each lifetime present in the last 5 reproductive cycles and the future is when the last generation have cycles of reproduction making them 1 of 16 great great grandparents. Gee, that little symbol covers actual reproduction results in actual time of 9 reproductive cycles in a row. use any estimated number of years between born and becoming 1 of 16 great grandparents as you are a biological product of had 16 great great grandparents to factor out your DNA.

Point here is correcting human error done historically, or those compounding human error are going to bring extinction upon their own species. Karma. I can only show what I understand , choice to change your behavior is all on you and each person alive. Want liberty to be you, stop staying in character of social mantra.

 

[Nordberg]

leftys have no idea what mob rule looks like ... for them right now it's just another of their means to an end.

If they can't win the votes of the knuckle-dragging rubes in flyover states they'll just have to get rid of the EC ... problem solved.

Rightys were talking about removing the atavistic electoral college for years. It was not relatable to modern times. It was designed to get slave states to join the union. It accomplished that. It is sad that we did not update the constitution that was designed with updating in mind.The Electoral College is a total waste and allows a person with a lesser vote to get in office. That is wrong.

 

[serenity]

Rightys were talking about removing the atavistic electoral college for years. It was not relatable to modern times. It was designed to get slave states to join the union. It accomplished that. It is sad that we did not update the constitution that was designed with updating in mind.The Electoral College is a total waste and allows a person with a lesser vote to get in office. That is wrong.

it is checks and balances between urban over population and rural self reliant lifestyles. need varification look at county by county election returns. cities win elections for a state. why democracy fails every time practiced usually within 5 reproductive cycles as formed and falls apart as originally contextually drafted.

 

[Nordberg]

it is checks and balances between urban over population and rural self reliant lifestyles. need varification look at county by county election returns. cities win elections for a state. why democracy fails every time practiced usually within 5 reproductive cycles as formed and falls apart as originally contextually drafted.

Not correct. That is an after the fact made up reason. So the tyranny of the minority controlling the majority is a good thing? The vote is supposed to be equal. The EC gives more power to voters in states with lower populations. You cannot justify that with logic and fairness. It was not the point in the constitution. We should have a winner by which candidate gets the most votes. That is the only thing that makes sense.

 

[serenity]

Not correct. That is an after the fact made up reason. So the tyranny of the minority controlling the majority is a good thing? The vote is supposed to be equal. The EC gives more power to voters in states with lower populations. You cannot justify that with logic and fairness. It was not the point in the constitution. We should have a winner by which candidate gets the most votes. That is the only thing that makes sense.

You are leaping into a belief what I said is what you think I meant to say. Currently I detect you arguing for human rights, not defending personal liberty to remain what the body is as timed apart so far.

see your intellectual mind works by time table logistics and my instinctive brain navigates as timed apart so far with me being proportionately present as reproductions are creating eternally spaced apart results from now on as arrived so far. I live by time is stationary and relative timing is just intellectually navigating position on surface of the planet while simultaneously living.

You ever meet anyone that thinks like this before? I haven't met anyone else willing to accept it, yet I watch life sustain everyone else same way I am spontaneously here. Natural equality.