JD Vance's ex-Marine cousin takes flamethrower to the VP's ass....

Damocles said:
Right, they choose perpetual war funding without end. Their braindead hero didn't even attempt to start talks. Y'all are weak versions of yourself. You've gone so far left you've passed the crazies on the right and now support perpetual war.

Again... When there is peace, will you still be "upset" that we aren't throwing more money into your war machine?
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Will you be ecstatic when Trump gets Ukraine to agree to surrender to Putin when it was Putin who invaded?
 
AProudLefty said:
Will you be ecstatic when Trump gets Ukraine to agree to surrender to Putin when it was Putin who invaded?
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I will be "happy" if we end that war with Ukraine having a solid future and the full assurance due to the vested interest Americans will have in Ukraine.

What would have made me actually happy is if that braindead idiot who was pResident before tRump hadn't been so weak that Putin decided that "now" is the time to try invading Ukraine.

It seems so weird to watch the same leftist jackwipes that used to be "amazed" that someone like me was as against a war as they were are now suddenly "stoked" to pay for perpetual war.
 
Damocles said:
:rolleyes:

What I call peace is a deal that sets American interests firmly in Ukraine, thus ensuring that Ukraine's future is secure. What you call "peace" is throwing a few more hundreds of billions onto the war and hoping that it somehow finds its way to the right pockets.
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Horse shit trumper spin.

What you're saying is that you want trump to get his hooks into Ukraine's minerals even if it means splitting the take with Russia. Outside of that, Ukraine can go fuck itself because you don't give a shit if Russia rules them against their will.

It's obvious that the US military aid was doing it's job because Russia, a country many times larger than Ukraine, has barely made any progress after all this time and with US help, has been doing a helluva job of fighting them off.

But you'd rather swallow the right-wing propaganda about Zelenskyy living like a Beverly Hills movie star because it fits neatly into your trump worshipping agenda.

Whatever.

You might want to read my post "Which kind of trumper are you?" if you haven't already.

You might recognize someone.

Nomad

Thread 'Which kind of trumper are you?'

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There are two kinds of people who voted for Donald J. Trump in 2024. The first group was conned—they bought the sales pitch, got burned, and are just now starting to realize they were used. Veterans who lost their jobs, farmers who went bankrupt, blue-collar workers whose towns never saw the economic boom Trump promised—they’re pissed off, and rightfully so.

But then there’s the second group.

The ones who will never wake up. The ones who, no matter how many times Trump lies, betrays, fails, or humiliates them, will stand by him until the bitter end. They will make excuses...
 
Damocles said:
However, I do now know that even if peace breaks out in Ukraine the leftists here will try to gaslight everyone into believing it is somehow a bad thing.
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Peace is not going to "break out" in Ukraine until Russia gets out.

Anything else will be a settlement forced on Ukraine that they never wanted.
 
Nomad said:
Peace is not going to "break out" in Ukraine until Russia gets out.

Anything else will be a settlement forced on Ukraine that they never wanted.
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They should have signed Istanbul, an extremely generous offer from the Russians after all the shit they had pulled.

They pay the penalty for demanding war, for believing the Americans.
 
This is a great example of how empires and civilizations tend to die of Hubris.

"Of course we will kick Russian ass!"

" The Ruble will be Rubble!"
 
Russia is massively stronger as a miltary as a country and as a people than they were the day the Empire rejected Istanbul.

OOPSIE DAISY!
 
Nomad said:
Horse shit trumper spin.

What you're saying is that you want trump to get his hooks into Ukraine's minerals even if it means splitting the take with Russia. Outside of that, Ukraine can go fuck itself because you don't give a shit if Russia rules them against their will.

It's obvious that the US military aid was doing it's job because Russia, a country many times larger than Ukraine, has barely made any progress after all this time and with US help, has been doing a helluva job of fighting them off.

But you'd rather swallow the right-wing propaganda about Zelenskyy living like a Beverly Hills movie star because it fits neatly into your trump worshipping agenda.

Whatever.

You might want to read my post "Which kind of trumper are you?" if you haven't already.

You might recognize someone.

Nomad

Thread 'Which kind of trumper are you?'

1000017007.jpg

There are two kinds of people who voted for Donald J. Trump in 2024. The first group was conned—they bought the sales pitch, got burned, and are just now starting to realize they were used. Veterans who lost their jobs, farmers who went bankrupt, blue-collar workers whose towns never saw the economic boom Trump promised—they’re pissed off, and rightfully so.

But then there’s the second group.

The ones who will never wake up. The ones who, no matter how many times Trump lies, betrays, fails, or humiliates them, will stand by him until the bitter end. They will make excuses...
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I'm glad more people are speaking out against Damocles's rampant delusions. He is clinically brain dead.
 
Nomad said:
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BREAKING: JD Vance’s own cousin takes a flamethrower to what’s left of his reputation — says that he’s “disappointed” in him for twisting America into “Vladimir Putin’s useful idiots.”

And the cousin, who fought in Ukraine, wasn’t done there…

“Being your family doesn’t mean I’m going to accept you killing my comrades,” Nate Vance, a former Marine said in an interview with Le Figaro.

A Texan, he revealed that he volunteered and fought in Ukraine against the Russians on the front lines for three years.

He and JD share grandparents and even vacationed together in the past. Nate stated that he has tried to contact JD but has not received a response.

He slammed Donald Trump and the vice president for betraying Ukraine by attacking Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office and then cutting off military aid and intelligence sharing to Ukraine.

“When [JD Vance] criticized aid to Ukraine, I thought it was because he needed to appeal to his electorate, that it was part of the political game,” Nate Vance stated in an interview with Le Figaro. “But what they did to Zelensky was an ambush of absolute dishonesty.”

“Donald Trump and my cousin clearly think they can placate Vladimir Putin,” he added. “They are wrong. The Russians are not about to forget our support for Ukraine. We are Vladimir Putin’s useful idiots.”

It’s nice to see that at least one member of the Vance family is standing firmly on the right side of history. JD and Trump will go down as cowards and traitors of the worst sort.
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There is no treason by Trump or Vance, Nomy.
 
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