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Jim Henson Company breaks ties with Chick-fil-A over gay marriage stance
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And allowing gay couples to marry would not hurt anyone. I'll buy chick-fil-a sandwiches if gays are allowed to marry.
Allowing gays to marry would only hurt society as a whole. I don't care if you don't eat chick-fil-a and I hope they stick to their guns. If you think chick-fil-a has any bearing on whether homo's will marry or not then you are stupid.
You are exhibiting nothing more than the type of Chicago thuggery that OWEdummy is expert at. Like I said, you are free to do so. But, I am free to call you out for doing it. All the things facing this country and you are tying yourself in knots over 1% of the population?
Allowing gays to marry would only hurt society as a whole.
How does liberty hurt society?
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Allowing gays to marry would only hurt society as a whole. I don't care if you don't eat chick-fil-a and I hope they stick to their guns. If you think chick-fil-a has any bearing on whether homo's will marry or not then you are stupid.
You are exhibiting nothing more than the type of Chicago thuggery that OWEdummy is expert at. Like I said, you are free to do so. But, I am free to call you out for doing it. All the things facing this country and you are tying yourself in knots over 1% of the population?
Wow, you took that and ran out into the imaginary world pretty quickly, didn't you?
Yes, I am adamant about gays being allowed to marry. I think not allowing it is a sign of ignorance and bigotry, which effects us all.
And this claim that allowing gays to marry would hurt society as a whole is nonsense. Your marriage does not effect mine, and mine does not effect yours. Allowing a gay couple the same benefits that straight couples have is not going to effect anyone except them. There will not be more gays because we allow them to marry. It will not "turn" anyone gay.
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How does liberty hurt society?
It changes the definition of marriage. It hurts children which are the backbone of our society. Marriage always has been a child centered institution. Homo marriage would change it to an adult centered institution. That would harm children. Now your default will be that I am making some "religious" claim about marriage. So let's just get that straw man out of the way right now. Here are five non religious reasons for why homo marriage is a bad thing for children because it redefines marriage. So if you support homo marriage, you must hate children.
1 The essential public purpose of marriage is to attach mothers and fathers to their children and to one another.
2 Man/woman marriage allows children to know and be known by their biological parents. Same sex marriage separates children from at least one parent.
3 Man/woman marriage sets the foundation for children to have the same biological, legal and care-giving parents. Same sex marriage separates these functions among different people.
4 Man/woman marriage provides children with access to their genetic, cultural and social heritage.
5 Even though it is not always possible, children have the best life chances when they are raised by their biological married parents.
The reason leftists are pushing homo marriage isn't because they care about equality for homo's. It is because they want to finish the job on the family unit that welfare started. They want to make children unconnected to their family so that the natural human desire to belong to something forces them to turn to the government.
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Wow, you took that and ran out into the imaginary world pretty quickly, didn't you?
Yes, I am adamant about gays being allowed to marry. I think not allowing it is a sign of ignorance and bigotry, which effects us all.
And this claim that allowing gays to marry would hurt society as a whole is nonsense. Your marriage does not effect mine, and mine does not effect yours. Allowing a gay couple the same benefits that straight couples have is not going to effect anyone except them. There will not be more gays because we allow them to marry. It will not "turn" anyone gay.
You are simple minded and easily swayed by popular culture. I know, you watched Will and Grace, Modern Family and some other show highlighting homo's and now you think it is "normal". Well, it is not normal. See my previous point. I have outlined 5 ways homo marriage hurts society because it hurts children. Now, if you don't care about children then so be it.
But, it isn't about your marriage, or my marriage. It isn't even about rights. It is about diminishing those institutions that have made this country great.
This bullshit that homo's can't visit in hospitals is a crock. That they can't leave their assets to their homo lover is crap. Now, take your LBGT talking points somewhere else where they will have more effect on the weak minded
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How does liberty hurt society?
See post #26
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How does liberty hurt society?
See post #26
It changes the definition of marriage. It hurts children which are the backbone of our society. Marriage always has been a child centered institution. Homo marriage would change it to an adult centered institution. That would harm children. Now your default will be that I am making some "religious" claim about marriage. So let's just get that straw man out of the way right now. Here are five non religious reasons for why homo marriage is a bad thing for children because it redefines marriage. So if you support homo marriage, you must hate children.
1 The essential public purpose of marriage is to attach mothers and fathers to their children and to one another.
2 Man/woman marriage allows children to know and be known by their biological parents. Same sex marriage separates children from at least one parent.
3 Man/woman marriage sets the foundation for children to have the same biological, legal and care-giving parents. Same sex marriage separates these functions among different people.
4 Man/woman marriage provides children with access to their genetic, cultural and social heritage.
5 Even though it is not always possible, children have the best life chances when they are raised by their biological married parents.
The reason leftists are pushing homo marriage isn't because they care about equality for homo's. It is because they want to finish the job on the family unit that welfare started. They want to make children unconnected to their family so that the natural human desire to belong to something forces them to turn to the government.
The same was said about interracial marriage 50 years ago.
It's bull. It's not changing any definition, and it's allowing 2 consenting adults to do what everyone else can do. Ergo, liberty.
Not sure why you're anti-freedom, but hey...
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The same was said about interracial marriage 50 years ago.
It's bull. It's not changing any definition, and it's allowing 2 consenting adults to do what everyone else can do. Ergo, liberty.
Not sure why you're anti-freedom, but hey...
Prove those five things were said about inter racial marriage. Prove it or admit you made it up. You have access to the internet. Go.
Of course it changes the definition of marriage. That is the point. For centuries, marriage has been between a man and a woman. Before religion.
Gay marriage needs government coercion to exist. Male/Female marriage can exist on its own. You are woefully out of your depth here and obviously haven't thought much further than the LBGT talking points on this issue.
We have defined marriage for years. Why do we not allow three men and one woman to marry? What is the reason?
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It changes the definition of marriage. It hurts children which are the backbone of our society. Marriage always has been a child centered institution. Homo marriage would change it to an adult centered institution. That would harm children. Now your default will be that I am making some "religious" claim about marriage. So let's just get that straw man out of the way right now. Here are five non religious reasons for why homo marriage is a bad thing for children because it redefines marriage. So if you support homo marriage, you must hate children.
Absolute bullshit. Study after study has shown children of gay parents do just as well as chilredn of straight parents.
1 The essential public purpose of marriage is to attach mothers and fathers to their children and to one another.
And yet, childless married couple get all the same benefits you wish to deny gay couples. Also, gay couples who have kids need the same legal attachments, but I guess those children aren't as important?
2 Man/woman marriage allows children to know and be known by their biological parents. Same sex marriage separates children from at least one parent.
So does divorce. But I don't see any rightwing movement to remove that from our society. In fact, divorce causes more harm than gay marriage ever could, but conservatives don't seem concerned about that.
3 Man/woman marriage sets the foundation for children to have the same biological, legal and care-giving parents. Same sex marriage separates these functions among different people.
Same sex marriage puts children ina loving home with 2 parents. Studies have shown kids in same-sex households do better than in single parent households.
4 Man/woman marriage provides children with access to their genetic, cultural and social heritage.
And gay marriage would allow the same thing. You think being gay makes a couple less southern, less irish or italian, less black, or removes them from their social heritage? Gays either have children thru a surrogate or artificial insemination, or they adopt. So they are either creating a child with their own genetic, cultural and social heritage, or they are rescuing an orphan from a life without any heritage. To argue against these children being raised in loving homes is to argue against the best interests of the child.
5 Even though it is not always possible, children have the best life chances when they are raised by their biological married parents.
Nice line, but irrelevant, given the number of remarried parents, step-parents, and single parents that straight marriage has produced.
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But, it isn't about your marriage, or my marriage. It isn't even about rights. It is about diminishing those institutions that have made this country great.
Your paranoia about the left trying to destroy America is nonsense. It makes for great political fodder for those with diminished thinking skills, but that is about it.
This bullshit that homo's can't visit in hospitals is a crock. That they can't leave their assets to their homo lover is crap. Now, take your LBGT talking points somewhere else where they will have more effect on the weak minded
When the hospital only allows "next of kin" to visit or make decisions, do you think the boyfriend or girlfriend gets a say?
When the couple adopt a child, only one of teh gay couple is listed as the parent (in most states). If that parent dies, the other has no legal connection to the child they have raised, and the child loses BOTH parents.
Denying that these situation exists is fine. As long as you realize that you are denying the facts.
Prove those five things were said about inter racial marriage. Prove it or admit you made it up. You have access to the internet. Go.
Of course it changes the definition of marriage. That is the point. For centuries, marriage has been between a man and a woman. Before religion.
Gay marriage needs government coercion to exist. Male/Female marriage can exist on its own. You are woefully out of your depth here and obviously haven't thought much further than the LBGT talking points on this issue.
We have defined marriage for years. Why do we not allow three men and one woman to marry? What is the reason?
Bigots always say the same shite. Next, you'll be bringing up bestiality.
Polygamy IS a way of marriage in some cultures. There is no set "definition of marriage." It's all what we allow. I'm arguing for freedom, and for consenting adults to be able to choose. You're arguing for restriction & fascism.
Nice goin'....
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Interracial Couple Denied Marriage License By Louisiana Justice Of The Peace
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/interracial-couple-denied_n_322784.html
SEE: Plessy vs. Ferguson, 1896 .. African-Americans legally allowed to marry each other, but not to white people
SEE: Loving v. Virginia, 1967 .. Supreme Court putting and end to American anti-miscegenation laws
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/interracial-couple-denied_n_322784.html
SEE: Plessy vs. Ferguson, 1896 .. African-Americans legally allowed to marry each other, but not to white people
SEE: Loving v. Virginia, 1967 .. Supreme Court putting and end to American anti-miscegenation laws
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Gay marriage needs government coercion to exist. Male/Female marriage can exist on its own. You are woefully out of your depth here and obviously haven't thought much further than the LBGT talking points on this issue.
Gay marriage can exist on its own as well. How about we remove all gov't intrusion into marriage? How about we remove all of the 1,400 benefits given by the federal, state and local gov't to married couples and make it simple a social contract?? Can we do that?
We have defined marriage for years. Why do we not allow three men and one woman to marry? What is the reason?
If you would like to discuss polygamy that is fine. But that does not take away from the issue we are discussing here. Next you will say "If we cave in and allow gays to marry, next we will have people marrying their dog or cat!".
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Absolute bullshit. Study after study has shown children of gay parents do just as well as chilredn of straight parents.
The research in this area is preliminary.We don’t have studies that last long enough to show the long-term impact of being raised in a same sex household.
Each member of the same sex couple may be a fine parent. But two good mothers do not add up to a father.
So does divorce. But I don't see any rightwing movement to remove that from our society. In fact, divorce causes more harm than gay marriage ever could, but conservatives don't seem concerned about that.
Actually, this statement proves my point exactly and makes the rest of your reply nonsense. No fault divorce has had disastrous effects on our society with more and more kids growing up in fatherless homes. Not good. Now you think think two broads can parent the same way as a mother and father and you are a fool. I am very concerned about no fault divorce, but this isn't a thread about that. Lastly, what is the first question people always ask when they hear about a couple getting divorced? "Do they have kids?" That is because they know intuitively marriage is about raising children.
Same sex marriage puts children ina loving home with 2 parents. Studies have shown kids in same-sex households do better than in single parent households.
And gay marriage would allow the same thing. You think being gay makes a couple less southern, less irish or italian, less black, or removes them from their social heritage? Gays either have children thru a surrogate or artificial insemination, or they adopt. So they are either creating a child with their own genetic, cultural and social heritage, or they are rescuing an orphan from a life without any heritage. To argue against these children being raised in loving homes is to argue against the best interests of the child.
I almost think you don't know what you are talking about. The fact that gays have to have children through a surrogate or artificial insemination or adoption immediately negates the ability for that child to grow up with their genetic heritage since they are only growing up with half of it.
Nice line, but irrelevant, given the number of remarried parents, step-parents, and single parents that straight marriage has produced.
Children in stepparent households, on average, have more emotional problems and lower school achievement than children of married parents.
Research shows that stepfathers spend less time with their spouses’ children than do biological fathers. Remarried mothers, on average, spend less time with their own children.The child and the spouse become competitors for the mother’s attention.
Same sex parenting means that one of the adults will have no biological relationship to the child, and may be more like a stepparent than a biological parent.We can’t assume the adults’ love for each other will resolve the complications inherent in stepparent families.
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Your paranoia about the left trying to destroy America is nonsense. It makes for great political fodder for those with diminished thinking skills, but that is about it.
When the hospital only allows "next of kin" to visit or make decisions, do you think the boyfriend or girlfriend gets a say?
Advance directives solves that without changing the definition of marriage
When the couple adopt a child, only one of teh gay couple is listed as the parent (in most states). If that parent dies, the other has no legal connection to the child they have raised, and the child loses BOTH parents.
Proves my point, they shouldn't even be allowed to adopt.
Denying that these situation exists is fine. As long as you realize that you are denying the facts.
The situation is a government created situation
Is all you have are the LBGT talking points
Same sex parenting means that one of the adults will have no biological relationship to the child, and may be more like a stepparent than a biological parent.We can’t assume the adults’ love for each other will resolve the complications inherent in stepparent families.
You just made an argument against adoption.
Nice.
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Bigots always say the same shite. Next, you'll be bringing up bestiality.
Polygamy IS a way of marriage in some cultures. There is no set "definition of marriage." It's all what we allow. I'm arguing for freedom, and for consenting adults to be able to choose. You're arguing for restriction & fascism.
Nice goin'....
Sorry puddin, but your argument falls flat in the face of Facts. For centuries the natural order of things has been Man/Woman marriage. Simple. Not complicated.
Gays? They couldn't even procreate without some other intervention. Put 100 gays on an island and what happens? They all die. No more gays.
The simple fact is that being gay is a genetic fuckup. And if you believe in evolution, then you must agree with me.
Sorry puddin, but your argument falls flat in the face of Facts. For centuries the natural order of things has been Man/Woman marriage. Simple. Not complicated.
Gays? They couldn't even procreate without some other intervention. Put 100 gays on an island and what happens? They all die. No more gays.
The simple fact is that being gay is a genetic fuckup. And if you believe in evolution, then you must agree with me.
So, do you think childless marriages should be illegal?