Joe Biden Bans American Flags

[Neoclitorus]

The breakup of AT&T was an unmitigated disaster that resulted in the uncoordinated dumpster fire that now serves as our communications "system,"
not to mention a coup de grace to American manufacturing and a massive domestic job killer. Good union jobs, by the way.

Nationalizing would have been a far better option than the breakup, or they could have just left it alone as a highly regulated monopoly.
Not sure where you get your ideas, Fredo, but they've really fucked you up.

the breakup was fine.

get over it, fascist.

 

[Neoclitorus]

No, it's socialism because the government isn't running that system for a profit.




Can never happen and will never happen, so you should just give it up.

We aren't ever going to pay for our health care with chickens like some kind of barter system.

So you should put that stupid and juvenile thought out of your head right now.

There's a reason you can't find a single doctor who would support such a dumb system.

monopolies always are bad for the consumer.

single payer is a monopoly.

but you people want rationing and austerity.

 

[Neoclitorus]

No, they most definitely will be working with high prices because that's how they make a profit.

This is the system YOU WANTED. Now you don't like it?

the high prices are set by a fascist middle man that sets them artificially and pays off the governmet for their monopoy on price fixing.

 

[Neoclitorus]

No, you functionally illiterate fascist...

The prices are negotiated between the insurance company and the provider.

You have a real problem when it comes to comprehending that which you read.

You post compulsively and sloppily, and I take that as a personal insult each time because you think I'm stupid enough for you to bullshit me.

and they should be negotiated between the provider and the patient.

that's price discovery, not crony fascism like we have now.

 

[LV426]

monopolies always are bad for the consumer.

You keep saying this, but it means nothing in this context.

I think you just learned a new word, "monopolies", but you don't really understand it because...well...you're dumb.

single payer is a monopoly.

How so if it's not motivated by profit?

but you people want rationing and austerity.

We already have rationing and austerity, they're called denied claims.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

the breakup was fine.

get over it, fascist.

You still presume to tell me what to do when you are, by any reasonable standard, a complete rube.
Somebody really needed to find something that you could do. Right now, you exist totally without reason or benefit, AssHat.
You who cries about the loss of domestic jobs--fucking idiot.

 

[LV426]

the high prices are set by a fascist middle man that sets them artificially and pays off the governmet for their monopoy on price fixing.

Nope.

The prices are high because your provider, like your insurance company, is motivated by profit.

 

[LV426]

and they should be negotiated between the provider and the patient.

That will never happen because the provider's needs (profit motive) are in direct conflict with the patients' needs (health care).

 

[LV426]

that's price discovery, not crony fascism like we have now.

Nope, that is not "price discovery", that is a system where a doctor will charge the patient whatever they need to in order to achieve a profit margin.

If the patient cannot pay, then the doctor doesn't perform the service.

There will never be a world where you can pay for your health care with chickens.

 

[Neoclitorus]

You still presume to tell me what to do when you are, by any reasonable standard, a complete rube.
Somebody really needed to find something that you could do. Right now, you exist totally without reason or benefit, AssHat.
You who cries about the loss of domestic jobs--fucking idiot.

you are a brainwashed imbecile.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Nope.

The prices are high because your provider, like your insurance company, is motivated by profit.

and acts as the negotiator of prices and IS ENABLED to be shitty by this ability to fix prices.

the government will also fix prices. and yes, it will be corrupt and rationing will occur.

 

[Neoclitorus]

That will never happen because the provider's needs (profit motive) are in direct conflict with the patients' needs (health care).

but the deal doesn't go through if a price is not arrived at.



doctors presumably need to work.

this is actual price discovery not fixed price monopoly faux price discovery.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Nope, that is not "price discovery", that is a system where a doctor will charge the patient whatever they need to in order to achieve a profit margin.

If the patient cannot pay, then the doctor doesn't perform the service.

There will never be a world where you can pay for your health care with chickens.

doctors cannot profit without performing services.


this world is a world where you can pay for your healthcare in chickens.

you live in a world of lies.

 

[LV426]

and acts as the negotiator of prices and IS ENABLED to be shitty by this ability to fix prices.

So now you understand that the greed is from both your provider and your insurance company.

They are colluding to fix prices so that both profit at your expense.

If government ran health care, there would be no need to collude with providers to fix prices because there's no profit motive for the government.

Don't you want the profit motive out of health care? That's how you get health care that works for everyone and is affordable.

 

[LV426]

the government will also fix prices.

Yeah, but it's doing so for the benefit of the patients, not its own profit motive.

So the prices it fixes are prices that patients can afford.

 

[LV426]

and yes, it will be corrupt and rationing will occur.

It already is corrupt because of private insurance companies, and rationing already occurs...they're called denied claims.

 

[Neoclitorus]

So now you understand that the greed is from both your provider and your insurance company.

They are colluding to fix prices so that both profit at your expense.

If government ran health care, there would be no need to collude with providers to fix prices because there's no profit motive for the government.

Don't you want the profit motive out of health care? That's how you get health care that works for everyone and is affordable.

corporations control the government. expanding the government just expands THEIR POWER. welcome to fascism.

 

[LV426]

but the deal doesn't go through if a price is not arrived at.

That is the exact OPPOSITE of what you have been arguing for the last dozen posts.

This is what I'm talking about when I say that you aren't half as smart as you want people to think.

You don't seem to understand how health care works or how it's paid for...how is someone supposed to pay for heart surgery if there's no insurance or single payer?

 

[LV426]

doctors presumably need to work.

Right, but no patient can afford the costs of treatments without insurance or someone to pay for it.

It sounds to me like you want to remove the profit motive from health care, but still keep the profit motive...which is why everything is just dissonance with you.

 

[Neoclitorus]

It already is corrupt because of private insurance companies, and rationing already occurs...they're called denied claims.

and the government will just "prescribe euthanasia"..

that's a super duper denied claim.