John Stewart RIPS Democrats apart

It's comical and great marketing that Dr's are not part villan and it's all the insurance industry. The average DR makes over a qtr million. Thier malpractice needs to come down but supply of dr's needs to go up to increase competition. The AMA artificially keeps supply to low ala OPEC.
 
Topspin said:
It's comical and great marketing that Dr's are not part villan and it's all the insurance industry. The average DR makes over a qtr million. Thier malpractice needs to come down but supply of dr's needs to go up to increase competition. The AMA artificially keeps supply to low ala OPEC.
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not sure that this is all that it's about. my wifes ex mother in law was a doctor and she always told me that it was the restrictions on which patients a doctor could see that always caused the problems. too much power held by the insurance companies.
 
I didn't say it was all dr's, I'm saying it's not all insurance co's. Reign both of those bitches in.
 
???...doctors aren't part of the "health care industry"?....

blackascoal said:
NO, doctors are employees of the healthcare industry.

Surely you knew that.
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I've seen boneheaded logic and convoluted reasoning in my day, but this is damn need the top of pinhead spin....it could win the gold....:lmao::lol::rofl:
 
SmarterThanYou said:
how does the 'public option' change that?
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It's all about choice my brother.

It gives Americans choice and it does what every breakup of monoply does .. it drives down costs and creates competition.

Without a robust public option, there is no healthcare reform, only healthcare tweaking. It think it important than you truly understand what is at stake, why the opposition, who is behind the opposition, and what a public option brings to the American people.

There needs to be sane voices on the right .. and you have one. Don't fall for the mindfuck, don't take my word for it. Be the voice of reason amongst the voices of deciet.
 
bravo said:
???...doctors aren't part of the "health care industry"?....



I've seen boneheaded logic and convoluted reasoning in my day, but this is damn need the top of pinhead spin....it could win the gold....:lmao::lol::rofl:
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Yo' dummy .. exactly who in the fuck do you think doesn't believe that you've seen a lot of dumb logic in your day? In fact, I'd call you the King of the world of dumb ass logic.

If ever anyone is in need of dumb ass logic .. 1-800-BRAVO

.. thanks for the giggles. :0)

:lmao:
 
zoombwaz said:
Exactly. While the Dems may take a beating in 2010, the REpublicans are on drugs if they think they will be the default beneficiaries of the voters' ire at the Dems. The voters may be angry at the Dems for being spineless, closet corporatists, but they are disgusted with the GOP's obstructionism, hypocrisy, and their kowtowing to the right wing inbreds (sorry, redundant once again).

The insufficiently ideologically-pure Repukes will find themselves challenged from the right in the primaries, and will lose to smart, tough progressives who will successfully challenge the weenies and corporatists like Max "I can count" Baucus (the only thing he's counting are his bribes from the "health care" industry), Blanche Lincoln, a very vulnerable Dem who somehow thinks she's best able to protect her shaky incumbency by voting against the public option, which 60% of the voters in her state want. Yeah, that'll work.

As I noted last week, as soon as the polls started framing the public option question honestly ("do you want the option to purchase health insurance from the government, similar to the existing Medicare program for the elderly and disabled?") If the Dems had been using that reference all along, the GOP never would have gotten their campaign of lies and fearmongering off the ground. All the Dems would have had to say was, "What is the public option? Will you like it? Ask your grandma if she likes her Medicare." The GOP whores never would have gotten away with their "death panel" lie, or their "Marxist" lie, or any of their other virtually uncountable and utterly contemptible lies.

Speaking of contemptible, the party of the "death panels" and "Liberals are trying to kill conservatives by rationing healthcare to their supporters only, and denying it to their opponents," and a scripted shout of "You lie!" during the president's speech to the joint session (a shout that was itself a lie, in addition to being unheard of in this country), want to pass a resolution condemning a Florida Democrat for a lack of decorum for saying the Republican health care plan is, "Don't get sick, and if you do, die quickly." You have to hand it to the GOP in Congress: they may be ignorant, dishonest whores with their hands deep in corporate pockets and their noses deep in corporate asses, but nobody can fake outrage at being busted for their bullshit like they can. Lack of decorum? Of all the unmitigated cheek,the unbridled gall, they have the temerity to take feigned umbrage at something that is their stock in trade? The party of the birthers talks about decorum and respect? Fuck them and the elephant they rode in on. In case they haven't noticed, their polls are cratering faster than the Dems, and if the Dems really want to jerk the GOP's chain, vote the public option out of committee in the Senate and DARE the GOP to filibuster. Let them read phone books into the Congressional Record for 20-30 days. In fact, demand it. If they want to filibuster, tell them they're going to have to do it all the way, so the voters can see them for the obstructionist, partisan hacks they truly are.
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On target as usual, Zoomie! Hanging in there, my friend?
 
Taichiliberal said:
And people wonder why I've been saying "Third Party Please!" for years!
Man, Stewart is so on the money, it's makes me almost want to buy into cable.
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People wonder why I voted third party in the last election .. but I'm betting they've gotten a better view of why these days.
 
blackascoal said:
People wonder why I voted third party in the last election .. but I'm betting they've gotten a better view of why these days.
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I'm hip! It took me YEARS to get my parents wise to the REAL Slick Willy (at least partly)...they may be starry eyed about Obama, but they sure as hell will be looking into 3rd party for every thing else.

Old Ralphie (Nader) is still running around trying to wise people up. Now I'm not thrilled with how he acted after getting screwed by the Dems/GOP for the 2000 bid (the company he sometimes kept, his reluctance to endorse other like minded 3rd party folk instead of himself), but damned if his critiques still are sharp as ever.

As they use to say when I was a young shaver, "Keep the Faith, Baby!"
 
Taichiliberal said:
I'm hip! It took me YEARS to get my parents wise to the REAL Slick Willy (at least partly)...they may be starry eyed about Obama, but they sure as hell will be looking into 3rd party for every thing else.

Old Ralphie (Nader) is still running around trying to wise people up. Now I'm not thrilled with how he acted after getting screwed by the Dems/GOP for the 2000 bid (the company he sometimes kept, his reluctance to endorse other like minded 3rd party folk instead of himself), but damned if his critiques still are sharp as ever.

As they use to say when I was a young shaver, "Keep the Faith, Baby!"
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Good thinking brother.

Bill Clinton .. the greatest incarceration president in American history.

As much good as Nader has done in highlighting the weaknesses of the Democratic Party and in promoting 3rd parties, in the end he damaged himself with his ego.

Viable 3rd parties cannot be celbrity-driven.
 
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