Joint Chiefs contridict boneSPUR says evidence suggests coronavirus was not man-made

[Hawkeye10]

Let the poutRage & hate spill fourth-off w/ their heads

Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman says evidence suggests coronavirus was not man-made or released from lab​

he Pentagon’s top uniformed official on Tuesday maintained that available evidence indicates the virus that has caused a global pandemic was natural and not man-made or released purposely from a Chinese lab.

“The weight of evidence — nothing’s conclusive — the weight of evidence is that it was natural and not man-made,” Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Army Gen. Mark Milley said of the coronavirus.

“The second issue is, was it accidentally released, did it release naturally into the environment or was it intentional? We don’t have conclusive evidence in any of that, but the weight of evidence is that it was probably not intentional,” he told reporters at the Pentagon.

Milley added that “various agencies, both civilian and U.S. government, are looking at” the issue of where the virus originated.

The Trump administration this month stepped up efforts to blame China for the pandemic, with top officials including President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pushing the unverified theory that the virus was created by Chinese researchers or accidentally released by a lab in Wuhan, China, where it was being studied.

Trump, who has come under consistent scrutiny for his own slow response to the virus domestically, has repeatedly accused China of covering up the outbreak and claimed there is significant evidence that the virus emanated from a Wuhan lab — though has not actually provided any evidence.

The military increasing cant do straight old school military things anymore, plus they spent over a decade straight up lying about Afghanistan....They can sit down on this.

 

[Hawkeye10]

This is the article that Bret Weistein proclaims extremely well done:

h, come on. Lab-made? Nonsense! Back in January, that was my knee-jerk reaction when ideas that Covid-19 is caused by a laboratory leak had just surfaced. Bioweapon? Well, that is just Flat Earth crazies territory. Thus, whenever I kept hearing anything about non-natural origins of SARS-CoV-2, I brushed it aside under similar sentiments. So what if there is a virology institute in Wuhan? Who knows how many of those are sprinkled throughout China.
At some point, it became necessary to brush such theories aside in a substantiated manner, as their proponents began to back up their theses about the possible artificial nature of the virus with arguments from molecular biology, and when engaging them in debate, I wanted to smash their conspiracy theories with cold, hard scientific facts. Just like that Nature paper (or so I thought).
So it was then, in pursuit of arguments against the virus’s lab-madeness, that I got infected by the virus of doubt. What was the source of my doubts? The fact that the deeper you dive into the research activities of coronavirologists over the past 15–20 years, the more you realize that creating chimeras like CoV2 was commonplace in their labs. And CoV2 is an obvious chimera (though not nesessarily a lab-made one), which is based on the ancestral bat strain RaTG13, in which the receptor binding motif (RBM) in its spike protein is replaced by the RBM from a pangolin strain, and in addition, a small but very special stretch of 4 amino acids is inserted, which creates a furin cleavage site that, as virologists have previously established, significantly expands the “repertoire” of the virus in terms of whose cells it can penetrate. Most likely, it was thanks to this new furin site that the new mutant managed to jump species from its original host to humans.
Indeed, virologists, including the leader of coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Shi Zhengli, have done many similar things in the past — both replacing the RBM in one type of virus by an RBM from another, or adding a new furin site that can provide a species-specific coronavirus with an ability to start using the same receptor (e.g. ACE2) in other species. In fact, Shi Zhengli’s group was creating chimeric constructs as far back as 2007 and as recently as 2017, when they created a whole of 8 new chimeric coronaviruses with various RBMs. In 2019 such work was in full swing, as WIV was part of a $3.7 million NIH grant titled Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence. Under its auspices, Shi Zhengli co-authored a 2019 paper that called for continued research into synthetic viruses and testing them in vitro and in vivo

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-...ens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

The Chinese have destroyed all the evidence, and the people who know know not to talk, the know that the communist party punishes not only those who betray the Empire but also their families if need be...

There will never be any evidence found that this bug was made in a lab.

But it probably/almost certainly was.

 

[Gonzomin]

Point 1, SARS-CoV-2 is an RNA based virus not DNA.

Point 2, the structure of the protein spikes which were obtained by X-ray crystallography and the details weren't published until 19th February in Science. Until that was known it was not possible to begin development of a vaccine

Jan. 11th. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...eases-genetic-data-new-coronavirus-now-deadly That should tell you they were planning on it for a while.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Let the poutRage & hate spill fourth-off w/ their heads

Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman says evidence suggests coronavirus was not man-made or released from lab​

Of course it wasn't. That's just the latest excuse/conspiracy theory cooked up to try to save #COVID45's fat ass from responsibility for his mishandling of the U.S. response.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I am sure intrepid rightwing bloggers will reject these conclusions, and continue to relentlessly pursue the truth about the covert Chinese biological warfare being employed against us.

Fresh off their successful campaign to blow the cover off Hillary Clinton's pizza parlor sex trafficking operation, I think we can expect big things out of these stalwart rightwing investigative citizen-journalists

How would we ever get by without them? lol

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Well many of them have since "revised" their opinions on that, they were never wrong though, they assure you.......

the genius in orange was merely speaking metaphorically, they would spiritually pay a yuge, yuge bigly big price & they are paying via the great deal trump made..(just like really meant all along... )

There's a meme for that!

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Most rightwingers on this forum have falsely accused Joe Biden of sexually molesting children in full view of their parents and TV cameras. So the rightwing knows no boundaries

Until I went message boarding, I had no idea actually how many conservative dudes have no ethical restraint from spreading false accusations of sexual molestation and harassment. That has to fall somewhere on the bad karma scale.

Ditto. The real eye-opening thing, to me, is that many of them who repeat these lies call themselves "Christians" and often quote Bible verses to show their adherence to that religion. It's the same religion, coincidentally, that has a commandment against bearing false witness against others. Stretch is a perfect example of this. She has repeatedly called Biden a child molester with the only proof being those public photos that you mentioned, where he has a hand on a child's shoulder or is talking to one while touching an arm. Meanwhile she posts Bible verses so we'll know she's an ambassador for Jesus.

 

[Cypress]

Ditto. The real eye-opening thing, to me, is that many of them who repeat these lies call themselves "Christians" and often quote Bible verses to show their adherence to that religion. It's the same religion, coincidentally, that has a commandment against bearing false witness against others. Stretch is a perfect example of this. She has repeatedly called Biden a child molester with the only proof being those public photos that you mentioned, where he has a hand on a child's shoulder or is talking to one while touching an arm. Meanwhile she posts Bible verses so we'll know she's an ambassador for Jesus.

That particular poster was also banned for suggesting a prominent female poster enjoys watching kiddie porn.

I have to be honest: I personally thought that bearing false witness would entitle one to a ticket to the seventh circle of hell

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

That particular poster was also banned for suggesting a prominent female poster enjoys watching kiddie porn.

I have to be honest: I personally thought that bearing false witness would entitle one to a ticket to the seventh circle of hell

Yep. It's okay though. Apparently part of the Kristian Klub benefits is being able to break commandments and sin here and sin there, as long as you're properly sorry and beg for forgiveness.* Rinse, and repeat as needed.

* And if you're their chosen god The Toadstool, you don't even have to ever repent! You just say you're Christian and <poof!!>, you're magically okay in their book.

 

[Cypress]

Yep. It's okay though. Apparently part of the Kristian Klub benefits is being able to break commandments and sin here and sin there, as long as you're properly sorry and beg for forgiveness.* Rinse, and repeat as needed.

* And if you're their chosen god The Toadstool, you don't even have to ever repent! You just say you're Christian and <poof!!>, you're magically okay in their book.

They still are on the highway to hell, because....

Of all the foul mouthed, vile cursing, lying and slandering (fake) Christians who post here, I do not recall any of them ever expressing genuine repentance and contrition.