judge may allow the men Kyle Rittenhouse shot to be called 'rioters' or 'looters'

SmarterthanYou said:
you've heard the judicial term of 'fighting words', have you not?
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Yes, and "fighting words" also apply to non-verbal communication, like bearing a weapon in public that you are not allowed to use in that state.


neither should 1/3rd of all police, yet there they are
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Yeah, and you know my position on cops and law enforcement, right? I think it's pretty close to yours; that cops shouldn't be armed and there should be fewer of them.


it appears that when he tried to leave, a handful of people chased him down and tried to kill him............
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He tried to leave after already killing two people.

He could have left at any point beforehand but didn't.

So he was all ready to split after he killed people.

What kind of defense is that?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
show us the video you have of the first person shot just taunting and not being physically threatening. we'll wait
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Taunting isn't against the law, and if Kyle is so afraid and sensitive, then he shouldn't have gone to Kenosha in the first fucking place.

But he did...his mommy drove him up and dropped him off with the thugs who made him think it was OK to spray bullets at anyone who looks at you funny.

James Fields used the exact same defense when he was put on trial for murdering Heather Heyer because he claimed he felt threatened by the protesters, which is why he floored it right through them.

James Fields is now serving a lifetime sentence.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Not sure if that is Apples to Apples, but agreed the kid will be doing time. Maybe up to 15 years.
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Well let's see...

Fields told the court he felt threatened, which is why he drove into the crowd.

Rittenhouse told the court he felt threatened, which is why he fired into the crowd.

Seems like the same to me...
 
LV426 said:
Yes, and "fighting words" also apply to non-verbal communication, like bearing a weapon in public that you are not allowed to use in that state.
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not according to the law.........

LV426 said:
Yeah, and you know my position on cops and law enforcement, right? I think it's pretty close to yours; that cops shouldn't be armed and there should be fewer of them.
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and we don't always get what we want, do we?

LV426 said:
He tried to leave after already killing two people.

He could have left at any point beforehand but didn't.

So he was all ready to split after he killed people.

What kind of defense is that?
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show the full video of how the first person ended up shot. you have that full video, right?
 
LV426 said:
Well let's see...

Fields told the court he felt threatened, which is why he drove into the crowd.

Rittenhouse told the court he felt threatened, which is why he fired into the crowd.

Seems like the same to me...
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then you didn't watch the video, because if you had actually watched the video, you'd have seen someone try to kill him with a skateboard and then another one try to take his gun while armed with a handgun he wasn't supposed to have...........
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that is purely your own opinion and not one of law....
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Incorrect...it's "fighting words" and intimidation.

If you wave a gun around in public, that's an act of intimidation and a taunt.

As far as BLM and antifa, they're not busing people in from out of state to inflate their numbers.

That's why there were BLM rallies in every state and nearly every city, but only organized fascists in Kenosha.
 
LV426 said:
It doesn't fuckin' matter because he's there with the gun, so his very presence is a taunt and act of intimidation.
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Carrying a gun is not a taunt or intimidation. Your hoplophobia is YOUR problem.
LV426 said:
He's not even FROM Kenosha, so what the fuck was he even doing there? Being a crisis actor, that's what he was doing there.
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That question has already been answered. RQAA.
 
LV426 said:
Incorrect...it's "fighting words" and intimidation.

If you wave a gun around in public, that's an act of intimidation and a taunt.
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his gun was at low and ready........not waving around. you can't just make up a law and act as if it exists........your own perceptions do not get to dictate what the law means

LV426 said:
As far as BLM and antifa, they're not busing people in from out of state to inflate their numbers.

That's why there were BLM rallies in every state and nearly every city, but only organized fascists in Kenosha.
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if you actually believe that, then you are not smart enough to be using the internet
 
SmarterthanYou said:
no, her crime was much more heinous

and just like the prosecutor overcharged zimmerman, this prosecutor is overcharging rittenhouse........pure politics. If kyles lawyer is any good, this is over before it starts and you will probably see a guilty plea to one or two misdemeanors for time served
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I was in Texas and didn't follow the tabloids as you did. What was the result?

Agreed politics overcharged Zimmerman, a main reason why the prosecution lost. IMO, Kyle isn't being overcharged. Time will tell.

For someone who is so certain he's right, you don't seem very willing to watch me donate $10 to $20 dollars to JPP. Why?

Is it because you've read the facts like those below and know Kyle is going bye-bye for the rest of the decade?

https://www.jsonline.com/in-depth/n...nsation-year-after-kenosha-unrest/7967094002/
Rittenhouse, now 18, faces five felonies, a misdemeanor and a curfew ticket from the events of Aug. 25, 2020. Using an AR-15-type rifle, he killed Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, Anthony Huber, 26, and wounded Gaige Grosskreutz. His lawyers say he acted in lawful self- defense.

Rittenhouse is also charged with endangering the safety of a reporter for The Daily Caller who was recording from nearby when Rosenbaum was shot and an unidentified man Rittenhouse shot at as the man tried to kick him....

...He was walking toward police after shooting Rosenbaum when he was attacked by others. After killing Anthony Huber and shooting Gaige Grosskreutz in the arm, Rittenhouse got up and continued toward police with his arms up, but they told him to get out of the street.

Black drove him home to Antioch, Illinois, where he lived with his mother and sisters, and then turned himself in to local police.

When self-defense is raised, it will be up to prosecutors to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it doesn't apply, that Rittenhouse's belief that he would be killed or seriously hurt was not reasonable in the circumstances.

Rittenhouse's attorneys have contended he was in particular fear during his encounter with Rosenbaum because someone fired a shot nearby right before Rittenhouse decided to shoot. That person is Joshua Ziminski, who was standing with Rosenbaum right before he chased after Rittenhouse, and now faces his own charges from that evening....

...Is Rittenhouse a vigilante, militia member or Proud Boy?
Prosecutors have asked to introduce evidence that Rittenhouse went to lunch after a January court hearing with several Proud Boys, and later to Miami — as reported by The New Yorker — where he was picked up at the airport by Enrique Tarrio, a leader of the group.

Rittenhouse supporters say he had no connection to the Proud Boys or any militia group and went to Kenosha with his friend only to protect an auto business from further vandalism.

Early in the case, Rittenhouse's former lawyer and various backers on social media promoted him as a patriot and a symbol of gun rights advocacy. But in recent months, his fanboy Twitter accounts have dialed back, and his main image handler has shopped him carefully to some national news outlets, trying to stress his self-defense and the image of a boy-next-door....
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LV426 said:
Well let's see...

Fields told the court he felt threatened, which is why he drove into the crowd.

Rittenhouse told the court he felt threatened, which is why he fired into the crowd.

Seems like the same to me...
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Fields is not on trial here. Rittenhouse is.
He did not fire into the crowd.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
then you didn't watch the video, because if you had actually watched the video, you'd have seen someone try to kill him with a skateboard
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LMAO!

A skateboard!?!?!?

EGADS!

And how do you know he wasn't trying to restrain or incapacitate Kyle so that Kyle couldn't shoot people?

At that point in the evening, Kyle was an active shooter.

If an active shooter walked into the store where you were buying something, would you not try to restrain them by any means, using anything you can?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
since we have no video prior to that first shooting, we don't know if he inserted himself in to it or felt threatened. you're making idiot assumptions because of your hate and anger
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Actually, such video does exist. It clearly shows some of those that Rittenhouse shot in self defense were starting a dumpster fire.
 
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