judge may allow the men Kyle Rittenhouse shot to be called 'rioters' or 'looters'

[Into the Night]

Taunting isn't against the law, and if Kyle is so afraid and sensitive, then he shouldn't have gone to Kenosha in the first fucking place.

But he did...his mommy drove him up and dropped him off with the thugs who made him think it was OK to spray bullets at anyone who looks at you funny.

James Fields used the exact same defense when he was put on trial for murdering Heather Heyer because he claimed he felt threatened by the protesters, which is why he floored it right through them.

James Fields is now serving a lifetime sentence.

It is not illegal for Kyle to travel to anywhere. Fields is not on trial here.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Dude, I was at BLM marches, and the only out of staters were the counter-protesters.

purely anecdotal...........you usually don't do that.......I guess it only means something when YOU do it

 

[Into the Night]

Well let's see...

Fields told the court he felt threatened, which is why he drove into the crowd.

Rittenhouse told the court he felt threatened, which is why he fired into the crowd.

Seems like the same to me...

Kyle didn't fire into the crowd.

 

[Into the Night]

Simple. Ask for evidence that they were looters and rioters.

Being presented.

 

[LV426]

your viewpoint is colored by your hate, anger, and politics of guns........

True or false, before skateboard guy went after him, Kyle fired rounds from his gun? TRUE.

True or false, it was legal for Kyle to take his unregistered weapon across the border into WI? FALSE.

So Kyle's "self defense" isn't self defense because he was an active shooter and thus, not entitled to self-defense.

 

[Into the Night]

You should brush up on the law.




Not always.




I've seen the video, and in the hours before, Rittenhouse had every chance to remove himself from Kenosha, but didn't.

Kyle has the right to be in Kenosha.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

casey anthony was found not guilty......because the prosecutor overcharged and then couldn't provide the evidence needed to support that charge


time will tell indeed...........my personal opinion is that there are all these charges to try and coerce a plea bargain with rittenhouse...........it's a popular tactic of prosecutors


1. I don't gamble.........
2. you were proposing said bet with someone else, not me
3. the 'facts' you claim here are irrelevant to the events that happened BEFORE his january hearing.........surely you cannot be that stupid.

Wasn't that Florida too? Fucked up state. Glad I was able to finally leave.

True that's a prosecution tactic, but most of the charges appear to have substantial evidence. Like the Chauvin trial, video evidence might figure prominently since people tend to believe what they see with their own eyes.

I left it open to you in a post. Agreed, it's a gamble for you and an almost sure thing for me. LOL

Nothing matters except what evidence is presented at trial. Should be fun when his militia friends are dragged into court.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Not the law in Wisconsin or Illinois, which are the two states in question here.

I was born and raised in Northern Illinois, near Wisconsin, and visit there every now and then, of course I know the laws up there............

Is it? Because Rittenhouse's very presence with the weapon in WI was a violation of the law because he wasn't allowed to legally carry that weapon in Kenosha.

this is correct and quite possibly is the ONLY charge he can actually be convicted of.......

So he starts his defense as an admitted criminal.

So what happened prior to his mass shooting is relevant, specifically the fact that he was there illegally.

So that invalidates any self-defense because Kyle has already admitted to being a lawbreaker the moment he crossed the border into Wisconsin.

you do not know how the law works, still...........there have been numerous state and federal cases where a convicted felon used a gun in self defense and was only convicted of the possession.....not the use and shooting....

 

[LV426]

if someone fires in self defense, does that make THEM an active shooter?

Not if they're the only ones firing, which he was.

He had already fired his gun before skateboard guy got to him, so he was an active shooter at that moment and in that time.

 

[Into the Night]

LMAO!

A skateboard!?!?!?

EGADS!

And how do you know he wasn't trying to restrain or incapacitate Kyle so that Kyle couldn't shoot people?

At that point in the evening, Kyle was an active shooter.

If an active shooter walked into the store where you were buying something, would you not try to restrain them by any means, using anything you can?

A skateboard being used that way is a lethal weapon.

 

[AProudLefty]

that is only your opinion......because as you and others have said before, someone who is retreating, especially headed towards the cops, is not a threat to be neutralized.

you cannot have your cake and eat it too

My opinion? Okay I'll bite. Why did they want to kill him, especially when he was armed?

 

[Into the Night]

Dude, I was at BLM marches, and the only out of staters were the counter-protesters.

You don't know where they are from. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[LV426]

not that I travel much, but when I do, I do exactly that. i've open carried in Louisiana, New Mexico, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.........all with little or no issue.

So...there is an issue...

So some people (and the law) can classify you as a threat.

The one time the cops did come up to me, the only thing they did, and could do, was ask me what i'm doing and where was I going.

Now, just imagine if you were Black or Muslim, and what the cops' reaction would have been.

stop acting as if you know the law and how it works when all you really do is wishing the law worked how you want it to

You say you do this all the time, but then you also say that there are issues occasionally.

You're not helping your case.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

True or false, before skateboard guy went after him, Kyle fired rounds from his gun? TRUE.

irrelevant..........he felt threatened by the first person shot and fired in self defense. when he tried to run out of danger, he was chased and assaulted, again.

True or false, it was legal for Kyle to take his unregistered weapon across the border into WI? FALSE.

already acknowledged that this appears to be his only actual crime committed

So Kyle's "self defense" isn't self defense because he was an active shooter and thus, not entitled to self-defense.

you are still wrong about the law here......

 

[Into the Night]

How so?

RQAA. Pay attention, dumbass.

 

[AProudLefty]

Being presented.

You have inside information?

 

[Into the Night]

not that I travel much, but when I do, I do exactly that. i've open carried in Louisiana, New Mexico, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.........all with little or no issue. The one time the cops did come up to me, the only thing they did, and could do, was ask me what i'm doing and where was I going.........

stop acting as if you know the law and how it works when all you really do is wishing the law worked how you want it to

I've experienced the same.

 

[Into the Night]

My opinion? Okay I'll bite. Why did they want to kill him, especially when he was armed?

Hate and stupidity. RQAA.

 

[LV426]

purely anecdotal...........you usually don't do that.......I guess it only means something when YOU do it

That's true...it is anecdotal...you're right.

So I'll say that there is no need for BLM or antifa to bus in crisis actors because there were BLM rallies everywhere.

There weren't "very fine people" rallies everywhere, though...they had to organize and astroturf.

You should be familiar with that, having once been a member of those terrorist groups of "very fine people"...so you know all about how they bus their allies in to swell their numbers.

 

[AProudLefty]

Hate. RQAA.

Shut the fuck up, Donny.