judge may allow the men Kyle Rittenhouse shot to be called 'rioters' or 'looters'

[LV426]

and the assumptive rhetoric reaches new heights ROFL. That video in post 133 laid it all out very clear that it was all self defense..

When I see that video, I see an active shooter who was carrying an illegal weapon, and several people attempted to disarm him...just as you would any active shooter.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Thank you. And FYI I am deaf.

well, that explains why you posted a video you didn't realize was making the self defense case.
in case you weren't aware of it, when watching youtube videos, if they have closed captioning available, the CC button on the lower right of the video will display the text of what they are saying

I paused at 2:55. It is not clear what those two guys held. Quality is poor.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/09/12/gaige-grosskreutz-kenosha-shootings-survivor-speaks-out/

Grosskreutz then is seen approaching Rittenhouse and is shot in the arm at close range.

Grosskreutz can be seen running away. He has a large wound and his arm is not moving. You can also see a gun in the hand of his injured arm.

 

[LV426]

then why did you say he did?

He confessed to killing people in self-defense, but he didn't confess to murdering them.

And then you came along and said those people weren't trying to kill him, they were trying to "take his gun".

So...that's not life-threatening, and it's not reasonable to think that someone disarming you will result in that person using the weapon against you.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

When I see that video, I see an active shooter who was carrying an illegal weapon, and several people attempted to disarm him...just as you would any active shooter.

you are clearly biased

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

On Monday, a Wisconsin judge ruled that Kyle Rittenhouse's defense team will be allowed to refer to the teen's shooting victims as "rioters," "looters," or "arsonists" during the upcoming trial.
The lawyers will be allowed to use these terms so long as they provide evidence backing those claims,

The term "victim" is commonly banned during court trials across the country "because it implies that a crime was committed and could therefore prejudice a jury against a defendant."


Schroeder also noted that prosecutors are allowed to use equally as harsh language to refer to Rittenhouse, such as "cold-blooded killer," as they provide evidence to back up those terms.

That's fair enough. Judges want to ensure that what happens in their courtroom is not going to be appealed due to any error on their part. This is part of that.

 

[LV426]

it's a good thing you're not a lawyer, because you would suck at it........

I'm not so sure about that...I was able to get you to admit the people he killed were merely trying to disarm him, not kill him like you claimed they were which justified Kyle's actions.

And I was able to do that in just 5 posts.

I think I'd make a pretty good lawyer, actually...

 

[gfm7175]

Kyle's not a cop.

Irrelevant.

Kyle wasn't even legally allowed to possess that gun in Wisconsin.

Yes, he was.

Disarming Kyle does not lead to a reasonable fear for his life.

And if it does, then he was too scared to even BE in WI in the first fucking place.

He knew exactly what he was doing the whole time, and "self defense" is his go-to but he was clearly not acting in self-defense when he fired first.

He was acting in self defense.

 

[zymurgy]

No dementia...and far from gross.

When you get a little older (if you get a little older) you may learn the delight of a cigar and cognac after dinner...or when on a boat cruise. But for now, stay away from both. You kids have plenty of time to learn how to do the things we adults do.

ok boomer

 

[LV426]

you did no such thing, in fact, I don't think you're capable of understanding any form of context

Yes I did. Multiple times. That is all I do because you all whine constantly when the stupid things you say are thrown back into your face.

 

[zymurgy]

I'm not so sure about that...I was able to get you to admit the people he killed were merely trying to disarm him, not kill him like you claimed they were which justified Kyle's actions.

And I was able to do that in just 5 posts.

I think I'd make a pretty good lawyer, actually...

first step - GED

 

[SmarterthanYou]

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...due-in-court-for-likely-final-motions-hearing

An Illinois man who shot three people during a protest over police brutality in Wisconsin last year was justified because the men confronted him and two of them tried to wrestle his gun away, a use-of-force expert called by the defense testified at a pretrial hearing Tuesday.

The expert, John Black, spent hours outlining the moments that led to Kyle Rittenhouse's decisions to shoot Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber and Gaige Grosskreutz, offering a preview of the defense team's strategy when Rittenhouse's trial begins next month. Black testified that video shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse and reaching for the teenager's gun, Huber attacking Rittenhouse with a skateboard and trying to wrestle away his gun, and Grosskreutz running at him with a pistol in his hand.

“A citizen in that position, given those indicators, would it be reasonable for them to believe they were about to be assaulted?” Black said. “I would argue yes."

 

[LV426]

ask a cop about it. come back when you have their answer

Fuck the police.

Kyle's not a cop, so not sure why you want to apply those standards here.

 

[Ross Dolan]

ok boomer

Okay, Symurgy.

 

[LV426]

ask a cop about it. come back when you have their answer

OK, so then what this Marine did was threatening to the robbers, and the robbers would have been justified in shooting him, if we are to believe what you are saying:

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Fuck the police.

Kyle's not a cop, so not sure why you want to apply those standards here.

the simple fact that you believe only cops can fear for their lives if their weapon is taken, but a civilian must believe they won't be harmed makes you dumber than domer

 

[AProudLefty]

well, that explains why you posted a video you didn't realize was making the self defense case.
in case you weren't aware of it, when watching youtube videos, if they have closed captioning available, the CC button on the lower right of the video will display the text of what they are saying

The Google translate is piss poor at translating. Live Transcribe App is perfect but I do not want to bother with it on my phone as I am watching a movie. It doesn't even matter. I could narrate and say that they were holding black dildos and I wouldn't be proven wrong.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/09/12/gaige-grosskreutz-kenosha-shootings-survivor-speaks-out/

So he was a medic with a kit.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

OK, so then what this guy did was threatening to the robbers, and the robbers would have been justified in shooting him:

like I said. you're all over the map and making zero sense because you're angry about being wrong

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

ROFL...........it must be pretty pathetic, your life that is, that you have to force your fat, fraidy cat ass to believe the shit you believe in order just to make it through the day

fraidy cat who can't go outside without a penis-extender says what?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The Google translate is piss poor at translating. Live Transcribe App is perfect but I do not want to bother with it on my phone as I am watching a movie. It doesn't even matter. I could narrate and say that they were holding black dildos and I wouldn't be proven wrong.

So he was a medic with a kit.

ROFL.....and a gun.........you guys are hilarious

 

[SmarterthanYou]

fraidy cat who can't go outside without a penis-extender says what?

whatever you need to believe to make it through the day, baby huey