Just a thought...

I'm at the VA right now Damo I'll address your erors when I get home.

In the meantime look up what the word OR means and then reread the article. He has a application for VA disability pending.
 
I'm at the VA right now Damo I'll address your erors when I get home.

In the meantime look up what the word OR means and then reread the article. He has a application for VA disability pending.

You'll have to address the errors of the people who actually run the program, that list is directly from their site, link included. You can look up what "OR" means, but it won't change that he meets none of the criteria. You should look up the use of "and/or" study hard, Howie, even though it still won't change the reality that you were simply and completely wrong.

He won't get that pension until he is 65 and/or otherwise meets the criteria. He does not meet it currently and is therefore not going to be getting that, even if you "feel" he really should.
 
Never thought for a second this was the direction this thread would go.

Since yesterday I've done a shitload of research on this, over and above what I already know. For fifteen years I've been a volunteer veteran's advocate and have assisted numerous vets complete applications for pension, disability, social security and so on...Many were homeless and unaware of their entitlements.

You'll have to address the errors of the people who actually run the program, that list is directly from their site, link included. You can look up what "OR" means, but it won't change that he meets none of the criteria. You should look up the use of "and/or" study hard, Howie, even though it still won't change the reality that you were simply and completely wrong.

He won't get that pension until he is 65 and/or otherwise meets the criteria. He does not meet it currently and is therefore not going to be getting that, even if you "feel" he really should.

See above. I already knew the criteria. If you are disabled, or think you are disabled, and meet the criteria:

Age 65 or older, OR
Totally and permanently disabled, OR
A patient in a nursing home receiving skilled nursing care, OR
Receiving Social Security Disability Insurance, OR
Receiving Supplemental Security Income

...then you are eligible to apply for pension. In The Shooter's case, he believes he is disabled in that he's applied for VA Disability therefore the phrase

OR Totally and permanently disabled

applies to him. Now that it applies, it doesn't matter that he's not 65. (He should, however, apply for Social Security or SSI if he believes he's disabled.) He already meets the criteria of serving during wartime for over 90 days.

The criteria for determining whether an applicant is eligible for VA pension is less stringent than disability and/or Social Security disability, so veterans are advised to apply for pension first. With the huge number of applicants nowadays the process is a long one, but it's a start. At the same time, the veteran can apply for his VA disability, which is unfortunately a more complicated procedure and equally bogged down. He'll have to undergo exams at a VA Hospital.

Once the pension is approved it will be paid retroactive to the application date. If and when VA disability is approved (as well as Social Security disability/SSI - the same applies) it will also be paid retroactive to the application date, minus the amount of pension received.

As I stated throughout this thread, I have a working knowledge of the process as a veteran's advocate. I also have a personal investment in it.

In 1994, I applied for VA disability upon my retirement from the service. (Which was, at that time, early retirement [15 years]- not 20 years) In 1996, when my condition made it difficult for me to work, I applied for pension. In six months it was approved. I was 39 years old. The next year, my application for VA disability was disapproved. I appealed the decision and following congressional review, it was approved in January, 1999. I was 42 years old. Likewise, my Social Security disability was originally disapproved and then approved on appeal in 2002. I was 45 years old.

So it's clear I'm far more knowledgeable of the VA than some idiot who wrote a story, a whining Navy Seal*, and above all, you.

Yeah, Howie can stupid up a thread pretty quickly.

Hello, pot.

Oh, and, yeah. I think they should split it up.

They're not allowed to, by law.

*I have come to the conclusion that "The Shooter", although he claims to have killed bin Laden, is a coward. A fucking coward. Although I abhor Bissonette for violating the code of conduct of the Seals by writing a book and whoring his story and military service for money; he was man enough to eventually out himself, unlike "The Shooter".

"The Shooter" is a whining piece of shit. And a liar. Every separating veteran is advised of their right to apply for VA disability immediately upon discharge. I know this because that was my job in the Air Force, processing separations; so once again I'm far more knowledgeable of the process than you or anyone else on this forum.

So, as noted, "The Shooter" is either horribly stupid for not knowing he could apply for VA disability or he's a liar.

Reading the whole story last night revealed even more information.

"The Shooter" is going through a divorce and his wife is bitching she doesn't have her military health benefits (for shots for purported "sports injuries") and God forbid, can't go to the Commisary or Base Exchange now.

So what option is available to "The Shooter"? He isn't smart enough to write a book or movie and he won't give out his name because he's afraid of the mean old terrorists hunting him down; so he'd rather whine to a journalist who's trying to finally get a Pulitzer Prize and happens to be Bissonette's buddy. Trying to get what he thinks is his share of the reward.

Boo fucking hoo. Coward.
 
So it's clear I'm far more knowledgeable of the VA than some idiot who wrote a story, a whining Navy Seal*, and above all, you.
Hello, pot.

a whining Navy Seal? Wow... just wow...

They're not allowed to, by law.

laws are never changed

*I have come to the conclusion that "The Shooter", although he claims to have killed bin Laden, is a coward. A fucking coward. Although I abhor Bissonette for violating the code of conduct of the Seals by writing a book and whoring his story and military service for money; he was man enough to eventually out himself, unlike "The Shooter".

LMAO... the reporter verified with the other Seals on the mission and they corroborate the story that the reporter told via the Shooter. Then you go on to call this man who has served this country in some nasty shit a coward? Based on what Howey?

Next you 'abhor' that 'Bissonnette' wrote a book and made money off his story, then in the next breath say the shooter wasn't 'man enough' to out himself? Do you have any idea how moronic you sound?

"The Shooter" is a whining piece of shit. And a liar. Every separating veteran is advised of their right to apply for VA disability immediately upon discharge. I know this because that was my job in the Air Force, processing separations; so once again I'm far more knowledgeable of the process than you or anyone else on this forum.

Because nothing ever ever slips through the cracks at the VA or within the government. Nothing.

What is obvious is your jealousy of the 'Shooter'. Calling him a whiner and a piece of shit and a liar and a coward? Because he told the story that many Americans want to hear and did it anonymously?

You are a fucking idiot Howey. That is the only thing you have shown to be 100% factual.
 
Since yesterday I've done a shitload of research on this, over and above what I already know. For fifteen years I've been a volunteer veteran's advocate and have assisted numerous vets complete applications for pension, disability, social security and so on...Many were homeless and unaware of their entitlements.



See above. I already knew the criteria. If you are disabled, or think you are disabled, and meet the criteria:



...then you are eligible to apply for pension. In The Shooter's case, he believes he is disabled in that he's applied for VA Disability therefore the phrase



applies to him. Now that it applies, it doesn't matter that he's not 65. (He should, however, apply for Social Security or SSI if he believes he's disabled.) He already meets the criteria of serving during wartime for over 90 days.
Not until, and if, he is successful getting that disability. Being allowed to apply because you "think" isn't good enough. And you only have to serve 1 day in wartime so long as you pass the 90 day enlistment.

The criteria for determining whether an applicant is eligible for VA pension is less stringent than disability and/or Social Security disability, so veterans are advised to apply for pension first. With the huge number of applicants nowadays the process is a long one, but it's a start. At the same time, the veteran can apply for his VA disability, which is unfortunately a more complicated procedure and equally bogged down. He'll have to undergo exams at a VA Hospital.
However, until, and if, he gets it he is not eligible for VA Pension. Saying he "may be" would be accurate, but "is" is simply and flatly wrong. He is not currently eligible for VA Pension.

Once the pension is approved it will be paid retroactive to the application date. If and when VA disability is approved (as well as Social Security disability/SSI - the same applies) it will also be paid retroactive to the application date, minus the amount of pension received.

If the disability is approved, making him eligible.

As I stated throughout this thread, I have a working knowledge of the process as a veteran's advocate. I also have a personal investment in it.
Although you are not accurate at all, and flat wrong. Until he receives full disability he will not be eligible. He has almost zero chance of full disability.

In 1994, I applied for VA disability upon my retirement from the service. (Which was, at that time, early retirement [15 years]- not 20 years) In 1996, when my condition made it difficult for me to work, I applied for pension. In six months it was approved. I was 39 years old. The next year, my application for VA disability was disapproved. I appealed the decision and following congressional review, it was approved in January, 1999. I was 42 years old. Likewise, my Social Security disability was originally disapproved and then approved on appeal in 2002. I was 45 years old.
Again, until you were approved of the disability you were not eligible for VA Pension. Just like this guy.

So it's clear I'm far more knowledgeable of the VA than some idiot who wrote a story, a whining Navy Seal*, and above all, you.
No, it is clear that you are not capable of accuracy.

Hello, pot.

Looking in the mirror again, eh, Howie?


They're not allowed to, by law.

*I have come to the conclusion that "The Shooter", although he claims to have killed bin Laden, is a coward. A fucking coward. Although I abhor Bissonette for violating the code of conduct of the Seals by writing a book and whoring his story and military service for money; he was man enough to eventually out himself, unlike "The Shooter".

"The Shooter" is a whining piece of shit. And a liar. Every separating veteran is advised of their right to apply for VA disability immediately upon discharge. I know this because that was my job in the Air Force, processing separations; so once again I'm far more knowledgeable of the process than you or anyone else on this forum.

So, as noted, "The Shooter" is either horribly stupid for not knowing he could apply for VA disability or he's a liar.

Reading the whole story last night revealed even more information.

"The Shooter" is going through a divorce and his wife is bitching she doesn't have her military health benefits (for shots for purported "sports injuries") and God forbid, can't go to the Commisary or Base Exchange now.

So what option is available to "The Shooter"? He isn't smart enough to write a book or movie and he won't give out his name because he's afraid of the mean old terrorists hunting him down; so he'd rather whine to a journalist who's trying to finally get a Pulitzer Prize and happens to be Bissonette's buddy. Trying to get what he thinks is his share of the reward.

Boo fucking hoo. Coward.

They can, though, change the law.

Here is the criteria:

Age 65 or older, OR
Totally and permanently disabled, OR
A patient in a nursing home receiving skilled nursing care, OR
Receiving Social Security Disability Insurance, OR
Receiving Supplemental Security Income


Now, he may be able to get SSI for partial disability, but until he does he is not eligible for VA Pension. He simply isn't. He isn't going to get "totally and permanently" disabled, so that one doesn't apply. (I've bolded the three that are salient to this little schooling you've gotten.) Anyway, since he isn't "totally and permanently disabled, all we have left is SSI, and if he finds a job at any moment during the interim he isn't going to get that either. And believe me it takes a bunch of work to get that. I watched my father go through it.
 
I'm at the VA right now Damo I'll address your erors when I get home.

In the meantime look up what the word OR means and then reread the article. He has a application for VA disability pending.

So they finally got around to approving the procedure that will allow your head to be pulled from your ass.
Good for you :good4u:
 
Again, until you were approved of the disability you were not eligible for VA Pension. Just like this guy.

Every other word you said is negated by this.

I was approved for and drew the pension for three years before my disability was approved.
 
Every other word you said is negated by this.

I was approved for and drew the pension for three years before my disability was approved.

Not according to their site (and your post for that matter where you spoke of back pay). You could receive back-pay to the original date of application, but until you were approved for disability you didn't get VA Pension. That it took three years is impressive, that's actually quite fast for that, and it takes even longer, usually, for SSI.

In the interim he isn't getting squat. Until he's approved he just doesn't get any of that money you think he's magically getting.

Again, since he is very likely going to find a job in the interim that pays too much to receive the SSI benefits, all of this will be moot anyway. He isn't going to get VA Pension until he is 65 because none of the other requisites will be met.

Your anecdotes notwithstanding, their site makes it clear he doesn't meet their requisites.
 
So they finally got around to approving the procedure that will allow your head to be pulled from your ass.
Good for you :good4u:

Looks like the idea of having his head removed from it's position, has caused Howey to groan.
More proof that he doesn't like having things pulled out of his ass. :D
 
but until you were approved for disability you didn't get VA Pension.

That is a flat out lie.

I hate to go to a lawyer's site but maybe this will explain it better for you.

http://georgiaveteran.net/va-disability-compensation-claim-speeded-making-va-pension-claim

Many veterans who file for disability compensation may also qualify for another VA benefit program — VA Pension, also known as aid and attendance. This latter program is need-based, so there are financial elibility requirements as to your income and assets.

As a general rule, VA Pension (aid and attendance) claims get acted on much more quickly — often in just a few months.

Can you file for Pension while your disability claim is pending? Absolutely! There is no reason you can’t have both claims pending at the same time. If the Pension claim is acted on favorably, you can think of it as paying you an “advance” on your disability claim. If your disability claim is later denied, you still get to keep your monthly VA Pension.

So why isn’t this being done in more cases? It appears to be because most VA representatives are entirely unaware of the VA Pension and even fewer know how to qualify the veteran for the benefit.

That you have the nerve to tell me what I got, though, is absolutely hilarious. You are full of shit.

As for Mr. Whiny Shooter, instead of whining so much and demanding a reward he can't get, he should look into this stuff.

I'd also love to know why he got out of the service three years before his enlistment was up. Something's fishy.
 
That is a flat out lie.

I hate to go to a lawyer's site but maybe this will explain it better for you.

http://georgiaveteran.net/va-disability-compensation-claim-speeded-making-va-pension-claim



That you have the nerve to tell me what I got, though, is absolutely hilarious. You are full of shit.

As for Mr. Whiny Shooter, instead of whining so much and demanding a reward he can't get, he should look into this stuff.

I'd also love to know why he got out of the service three years before his enlistment was up. Something's fishy.

Which shows nothing to support that since he left early, that he's eligible for a pension.
 
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