keystone pipeline hits another bump in the road

Well, most of the time, unless there is some unforeseen catastrophic event, pipelines for oil don't leak. I don't recall ever having an oil pipeline leak in the US, do you know of one? Has there ever been one anywhere? I'm sure you did your research and can answer this, I am curious as to whether it's ever happened. You see, when the construct the darned thing, they already know it will be carrying crude oil, and raw crude is dangerous to the environment, so they take all kinds of extra precautions to insure the bolts are tight and everything is to specification. Kind of like when they send the space shuttle up, they are a little extra anal about things, because it does pose a risk. I would imagine, if a pipeline were to leak, it would probably be easier to contain and control than, say... an offshore oil rig. Just guessing, but I figure because the pipeline is on land and not under water, it would probably be easier.

I didn't really find much interest in your yahoo article, until I got to this:

But Fred Upton, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives' Energy and Commerce Committee, said the review's parameters were not yet clear.
"By not limiting the scope of the review to just the new Nebraska segment, the entire project could become tangled in unnecessary review and red tape, and subjected to attacks and stalling tactics by opponents," Upton said in a statement.

Uh... really? Ya think, Fred? Surely not, the Democrats have been so jazzed about this from the start, where the hell have you been?

Is it any wonder Republicans are getting their brains beat in by these morons? They are more clueless than the idiots in power!
 
Dixie said:
Well, most of the time, unless there is some unforeseen catastrophic event, pipelines for oil don't leak. I don't recall ever having an oil pipeline leak in the US, do you know of one? Has there ever been one anywhere? I'm sure you did your research and can answer this, I am curious as to whether it's ever happened. You see, when the construct the darned thing, they already know it will be carrying crude oil, and raw crude is dangerous to the environment, so they take all kinds of extra precautions to insure the bolts are tight and everything is to specification. Kind of like when they send the space shuttle up, they are a little extra anal about things, because it does pose a risk. I would imagine, if a pipeline were to leak, it would probably be easier to contain and control than, say... an offshore oil rig. Just guessing, but I figure because the pipeline is on land and not under water, it would probably be easier.

I didn't really find much interest in your yahoo article, until I got to this:

But Fred Upton, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives' Energy and Commerce Committee, said the review's parameters were not yet clear.
"By not limiting the scope of the review to just the new Nebraska segment, the entire project could become tangled in unnecessary review and red tape, and subjected to attacks and stalling tactics by opponents," Upton said in a statement.

Uh... really? Ya think, Fred? Surely not, the Democrats have been so jazzed about this from the start, where the hell have you been?

Is it any wonder Republicans are getting their brains beat in by these morons? They are more clueless than the idiots in power!
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Pipelines routinely leak you frigging idiot, and small leaks can go un-detected for months or years, causing virtually irreversable enviromental damage.

No mechanical assembly is failproof, hackmaster.
 
People keep conveniently forgetting that the northern end was shut down at the request of the Republican governor of Nebraska.
 
apparently Legion didn't read the OP........which states the Demos are trying to reopen the "final" environmental study for the entire route.....
 
Althea said:
Nope...pipelines NEVER leak

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/06/08-3

Published on Friday, June 8, 2012 by Common Dreams[h=2]Canadian Pipeline Spills Crude Oil into Major River[/h]
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Wow... well I guess I should have never made the statement, that oil pipelines have never leaked and can't ever leak. Oh wait... I never did make that statement.

Okay... now that we've established that once in a proverbial blue moon, a pipeline does leak, what does that mean? That we can't transport oil through pipelines anymore? Oh wait... we can't drill for oil anywhere, so why do we even need a pipeline, right? Oh well, we still have the Magic Gas Fairy who brings us gas to the pump everyday, and as long as that manages to happen through whatever miracle, we should just be content to keep fighting capitalists who want to build leaky oil pipelines all over the country, so they can ruin the environment... we don't need them as long as the Magic Gas Fairy continues to deliver!
 
Dixie said:
...Okay... now that we've established that once in a proverbial blue moon, a pipeline does leak, what does that mean?...
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Of course, nobody in Alkabubba would shoot at stuff, would they?


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And shucks, nobody on the Redneck Riviera minds a little black gold spill...

[h=1]Alabama sues BP for "catastrophic" Gulf oil spill[/h]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/08/13/us-oil-spill-alabama-idUSTRE67C3BR20100813
 
Dixie said:
Wow... well I guess I should have never made the statement, that oil pipelines have never leaked and can't ever leak. Oh wait... I never did make that statement.

Okay... now that we've established that once in a proverbial blue moon, a pipeline does leak, what does that mean? That we can't transport oil through pipelines anymore? Oh wait... we can't drill for oil anywhere, so why do we even need a pipeline, right? Oh well, we still have the Magic Gas Fairy who brings us gas to the pump everyday, and as long as that manages to happen through whatever miracle, we should just be content to keep fighting capitalists who want to build leaky oil pipelines all over the country, so they can ruin the environment... we don't need them as long as the Magic Gas Fairy continues to deliver!
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If you're referring to the Keystone addition to the existing pipeline, there's no upside for us.

Canada? Absolutely. Foreign companies? Yes again. U.S. taxpayer? NO WAY. The U.S taxpayer will pay app. 1 billion to allow foreign companies to sell the refined oil with absolutely no taxation here. None of that oil will stay in this country.

And that sludge needs an amazing amount of energy to be turned into oil.
 
A good point just how much tax dollars will be spent on this pipelilne carrying private product from a foreign country?
 
A good point just how much tax dollars will be spent on this pipelilne carrying private product from a foreign country?
And will eminent domain be used to condemn private property for this privately owned pipeline carrying private product?
 
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