Khashoggi dismemberment- Emblem of Trump World

noise said:
FDR and Saudi Arabia: Forging a Special Relationship
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137025258_6
The origins of the “special relationship” between the United States and Saudi Arabia are rooted in the politics of World War II, driven by America’s growing demands for oil. Roosevelt understood that the war offered an opportunity for the emergence of new political relationships in the Middle East designed to challenge European influence and foster the new economic and political order he envisioned. He admitted to being “greatly interested” in developments in Saudi Arabia and he aimed to build a strategic partnership, a kind of Good Neighbor Policy for the Middle East, with the Saudi king as one of its cornerstones. The Americans saw him as the most important figure in the Middle East, not only due to his kingdom’s oil wealth and its importance to postwar plans, but also because of Ibn Saud’s political and religious standing with the Arabs throughout the region.
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That was then, this is now. 911 changed much of that relationship which was based on oil. You now have a Saudi government that is coming here, buying our land, using our water to grow crops because they are running out of water. You have a Saudi government that is gouging the US when it comes to oil. You have a Saudi government that is using out weapons, and support, to kill civilians in Yemen. You have a Saudi government that supports terrorism.

The Saudis have bailed out Trump twice, and provide him with millions in income by their use of Trumps hotels which are losing money.

So I ask again, what "special relationship?"
 
kudzu said:
The Saudis have supported EVERY US president since FDR.......... They don't have to like Trump to cooperate. They know he won't be around forever.
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But they DO like Trump. why wouldn't they?
He is much more supportive and steadfast then the mercurial Obama ever was..
Do you recall the DC -Riyadh relationship under Obama .. rocky and luke warm.

Trump is much better for KSA then Obama ever was
 
Old Trapper said:
That was then, this is now. 911 changed much of that relationship which was based on oil. You now have a Saudi government that is coming here, buying our land, using our water to grow crops because they are running out of water. You have a Saudi government that is gouging the US when it comes to oil. You have a Saudi government that is using out weapons, and support, to kill civilians in Yemen. You have a Saudi government that supports terrorism.

The Saudis have bailed out Trump twice, and provide him with millions in income by their use of Trumps hotels which are losing money.

So I ask again, what "special relationship?"
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ridiculous . KSA has been a moderating influence on OPEC prices/KSA has been a victim of al-Qaeda more then once -
it does not "support terrorism"
 
anatta said:
simplistic garbage. as stated it's much more then just oil at stake here
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You do know that we have a glut of oil here in our own country, and do not need Saudi oil, or do you.

I understand how little human rights mean to the right wing, but lets us get real.
 
thumbsupkid said:
i don't believe in this kind of coincidence.

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KSA revoked OBL's Saudi citizenship and declared Al Qaeda a terrorist organization in 1994 so OBL wanted the 9-11 attack to have a Saudi face in hopes that the conspiracy nincompoops would cause war between KSA and America.
 
Old Trapper said:
You do know that we have a glut of oil here in our own country, and do not need Saudi oil, or do you.

I understand how little human rights mean to the right wing, but lets us get real.
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The US still imports about 8 million bpd... and our lift costs are the highest in the world.
 
noise said:
But they DO like Trump. why wouldn't they?
He is much more supportive and steadfast then the mercurial Obama ever was..
Do you recall the DC -Riyadh relationship under Obama .. rocky and luke warm.

Trump is much better for KSA then Obama ever was
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Come now.. The Saudis aren't stupid.. They just dress funny.. They know Trump is a jackass who respons to pomp, pageantry and flattery.
 
noise said:
FDR and Saudi Arabia: Forging a Special Relationship
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137025258_6
The origins of the “special relationship” between the United States and Saudi Arabia are rooted in the politics of World War II, driven by America’s growing demands for oil. Roosevelt understood that the war offered an opportunity for the emergence of new political relationships in the Middle East designed to challenge European influence and foster the new economic and political order he envisioned. He admitted to being “greatly interested” in developments in Saudi Arabia and he aimed to build a strategic partnership, a kind of Good Neighbor Policy for the Middle East, with the Saudi king as one of its cornerstones. The Americans saw him as the most important figure in the Middle East, not only due to his kingdom’s oil wealth and its importance to postwar plans, but also because of Ibn Saud’s political and religious standing with the Arabs throughout the region.
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That was then, this is now.
 
Old Trapper said:
That was then, this is now. 911 changed much of that relationship which was based on oil. You now have a Saudi government that is coming here, buying our land, using our water to grow crops because they are running out of water.

You have a Saudi government that is gouging the US when it comes to oil. You have a Saudi government that is using out weapons, and support, to kill civilians in Yemen. You have a Saudi government that supports terrorism.

The Saudis have bailed out Trump twice, and provide him with millions in income by their use of Trumps hotels which are losing money.

So I ask again, what "special relationship?"
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You sure don't know anything about KSA.... or OPEC or desalination in the kingdom or the 300 recharge dams built to capture ground water.

What Trump hotels are you talking about? There aren't any in the kingdom and they haven't loaned him or Kushner any money.
 
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