L.A. Fires

cawacko

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Late to the party here but throwing in some local thoughts. It's just sad. I have four fraternity brothers I know of that have lost their homes.

Because people inevitably want to discuss the causes I'll offer several. For starters it was just a really unfortunate mix of drought conditions and Santa Ana winds. Really hard to prevent that. But there are things we could have done differently.

The first is Prop 103 which was passed by voters in 1988 to regulate insurance rates. It basically said the gov't has to approve any increase in insurance premiums. It was sold as being pro consumer. What it did however was keep rates artificially low and didn't allow insurance companies to effectively price in risk. One of the big results being homes were built in high risk areas that if market pricing mechanisms were in place would have made it extremely costly to build. It's the reason so many insurance firms have started to stop writing policies in California or pull out all together. But you don't you don't get elected in California saying we need insurance costs to rise so we just turned a blind eye essentially until it was too late.

And preparedness is a whole other long discussion. Our approach to climate change has been going after oil companies and trying to subsidize EV purchases etc. But that's not going to deindustrialize the planet and change anything locally. Instead we could have recognized that the climate is changing and put in more safety measures to deal with it. (again, can get far more into the weeds on that). But we didn't.

It's always easy to Monday morning quarterback on certain things but the insurance issue and preparedness have been discussed for quite awhile in the state. This didn't sneak up on us.
 
The people of Palisades are pissed. Heads are going to roll.

I doubt the Democrats will pay a political price as a party.

Bass might get tossed under the bus.

Newsom is presidential timber to the left. I'll be surprised if he doesn't run for POTUS in 2028 with significant support. He may lose in the primary to a woman of colour or other "victim" class candidate, but this debacle won't kill his appeal, IMO.
 
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I doubt the Democrats will pay a political price as a party.

Bass might get tossed under the bus.

Newsom is presidential timber to the left. I'll be surprised if he doesn't run for POTUS in 2028 with significant support. He may lose in the primary to a woman of colour or other "victim" class candidate, but this debacle won't kill his appeal, IMO.

Democrats will blame it on global warming.

Bass should get tossed under a bus. So should the governor.
 
Democrats will blame it on global warming.

They already have. If Democrats were capable of accepting culpability, would they be Democrats?

Changing the figureheads is not going to address the underlying issues, and it may not even happen.
 
They already have. If Democrats were capable of accepting culpability, would they be Democrats?

Changing the figureheads is not going to address the underlying issues, and it may not even happen.
Newsom closed down small business and left Big Box and Chain stores open during covid. Heads roll whenever rich folk lose money. Good hair can only hide the skeletons in his closet for so long.
 
It's starting to get interesting from the standpoint of hostility towards millionaire celebrities and their water usage over the last 20 some years...............that stars like stallone, kardashian, etc. would just pay the extra 100 grand a year in fines for 150% allotted water usage to maintain their gardens, which is being used to excuse the reservoir status..............
 
It's starting to get interesting from the standpoint of hostility towards millionaire celebrities and their water usage over the last 20 some years...............that stars like stallone, kardashian, etc. would just pay the extra 100 grand a year in fines for 150% allotted water usage to maintain their gardens, which is being used to excuse the reservoir status..............

Think that'll matter? I don't.
 
Late to the party here but throwing in some local thoughts. It's just sad. I have four fraternity brothers I know of that have lost their homes.

Because people inevitably want to discuss the causes I'll offer several. For starters it was just a really unfortunate mix of drought conditions and Santa Ana winds. Really hard to prevent that. But there are things we could have done differently.

The first is Prop 103 which was passed by voters in 1988 to regulate insurance rates. It basically said the gov't has to approve any increase in insurance premiums. It was sold as being pro consumer. What it did however was keep rates artificially low and didn't allow insurance companies to effectively price in risk. One of the big results being homes were built in high risk areas that if market pricing mechanisms were in place would have made it extremely costly to build. It's the reason so many insurance firms have started to stop writing policies in California or pull out all together. But you don't you don't get elected in California saying we need insurance costs to rise so we just turned a blind eye essentially until it was too late.

And preparedness is a whole other long discussion. Our approach to climate change has been going after oil companies and trying to subsidize EV purchases etc. But that's not going to deindustrialize the planet and change anything locally. Instead we could have recognized that the climate is changing and put in more safety measures to deal with it. (again, can get far more into the weeds on that). But we didn't.

It's always easy to Monday morning quarterback on certain things but the insurance issue and preparedness have been discussed for quite awhile in the state. This didn't sneak up on us.
Good to know that you are OK. Did you hear about the huge increase in power surges prior to the fires. It sounds like arcing power line may have started some of the fires.

Power grid faults surged right before Los Angeles wildfires began: expert

 
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