L.A. Fires

[Diogenes]

This stuff works, and if you live where there's a real threat of wildfire to your property, you're a fool for not investing in one of these systems.

Democrats relied on other Democrats, I guess.

 

[Diogenes]

I don't live in CA...

Neither does he. He doesn't literally live in a van down by the river, but that's not far from the truth.

 

[Jarod]

Maybe they shouldn't be spending money on " Trump proofing" California.

The money was not via the State budget, it came from the City of Los Angles, educate yourself.

 

[FastLane]

So all fires can be prevented, even on a very l limited budget?

Fires can be mitigated with proper planning. Have you ever seen fire inspectors inspecting buildings? That is prospective fire prevention. My son is a fireman he helps inspect buildings all the time.

 

[FastLane]

The money was not via the State budget, it came from the City of Los Angles, educate yourself.

Oh the city that just burned? Interesting. Where did they get that money from? Tax payers. Maybe they should have spent the money removing the underbrush in vulnerable areas.

(NewsNation) — Democratic lawmakers in California authorized $50 million in state funds to beef up the state’s defenses against incoming Republican President Donald Trump’s policies.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/california-dems-fight-trump-policies/

 

[Into the Night]

It's beyond that, it would take the removal of the top 50 democrat leaders to make any impact on the rest of those left in office.

True. Not only must kind Newsom be deposed, the entire court must be deposed or it will simply become an oligarchy instead of a dictatorship.

 

[Into the Night]

Fires can be mitigated with proper planning. Have you ever seen fire inspectors inspecting buildings? That is protective fire prevention. My son is a fireman he helps inspect buildings all the time.

These losers never read any NFPA document.

 

[Into the Night]

I admit you got nothing

Assumption of victory fallacy.



to: Lionfish,

QED. He's stupid alright.

 

[Into the Night]

So if a fire happens, that means the firefighters are to blame?

This isn't just any fire, Pretender. Word games won't help you.

 

[Into the Night]

So all fires can be prevented, even on a very l limited budget?

Word games won't work, Pretender.

 

[Into the Night]

Who said the firefighters are to blame?

DUH!

The Pretender. He's trying to make an extreme argument fallacy using word games.

 

[Into the Night]

You

DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR POSTS ON SOMEONE ELSE, PRETENDER!

 

[RB 60]

The Pretender. He's trying to make an extreme argument fallacy using word games.

He lost.

 

[Into the Night]

Maybe they shouldn't be spending money on " Trump proofing" California.

The Pretender is now hallucinating. The SDTC has one of the highest taxes in North America. It's one of the reasons people are fleeing it to migrate back into the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

The money was not via the State budget, it came from the City of Los Angles, educate yourself.

What money, Pretender??? What random pivot is this???

 

[RB 60]

Oh the city that just burned? Interesting. Where did they get that money from? Tax payers. Maybe they should have spent the money removing the underbrush in vulnerable areas.

(NewsNation) — Democratic lawmakers in California authorized $50 million in state funds to beef up the state’s defenses against incoming Republican President Donald Trump’s policies.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/california-dems-fight-trump-policies/

$50 million would have gone a long way in removing dead trees and underbrush...

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Democrats relied on other Democrats, I guess.

Well, a majority of Californians did vote them in so it is likely a majority of Californians are stone cold stupid.

 

[Diogenes]

Well, a majority of Californians did vote them in so it is likely a majority of Californians are stone cold stupid.

I suspect that you're correct.

 

[Lionfish]

The money was not via the State budget, it came from the City of Los Angles, educate yourself.

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Tax dollars are tax dollars regardless of where they come from.

On to your phone bank.

 

[Tobytone]

Late to the party here but throwing in some local thoughts. It's just sad. I have four fraternity brothers I know of that have lost their homes.

Because people inevitably want to discuss the causes I'll offer several. For starters it was just a really unfortunate mix of drought conditions and Santa Ana winds. Really hard to prevent that. But there are things we could have done differently.

The first is Prop 103 which was passed by voters in 1988 to regulate insurance rates. It basically said the gov't has to approve any increase in insurance premiums. It was sold as being pro consumer. What it did however was keep rates artificially low and didn't allow insurance companies to effectively price in risk. One of the big results being homes were built in high risk areas that if market pricing mechanisms were in place would have made it extremely costly to build. It's the reason so many insurance firms have started to stop writing policies in California or pull out all together. But you don't you don't get elected in California saying we need insurance costs to rise so we just turned a blind eye essentially until it was too late.

And preparedness is a whole other long discussion. Our approach to climate change has been going after oil companies and trying to subsidize EV purchases etc. But that's not going to deindustrialize the planet and change anything locally. Instead we could have recognized that the climate is changing and put in more safety measures to deal with it. (again, can get far more into the weeds on that). But we didn't.

It's always easy to Monday morning quarterback on certain things but the insurance issue and preparedness have been discussed for quite awhile in the state. This didn't sneak up on us.

Way too much logic for many here, as I'm guessing you know.

In my opinion, I would advise caution when discussing climate change in certain circles. Firstly, it's debatable whether the climate is changing any more than it has over the past several hundred years, given our lack of comprehensive historical records to support such a claim definitively. Secondly, regardless of the truth of the first point, I'm concerned that if the climate change argument dominates the discourse on rebuilding California, it could lead to inflated costs and poor decision-making that might not sit well with the general populace. I worry that the public's input might not be sufficiently considered before final decisions and budget allocations are made.

Given that you sound like a local, do you see any risk of this scenario unfolding?