Last time Earth hit these CO2 levels there were trees at the South Pole

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The impact of runaway emissions is already upon us. Several cities in the northern U.S., such as Buffalo, Cincinnati and Duluth, are already preparing to receive migrants from states like Florida, where residents are beset with increasing flooding, brutal heat waves, more severe and frequent hurricanes, sea level rise, and a worse allergy season. City planners in the aforementioned cities are already preparing by trying to figure out how to create jobs and housing for an influx of new residents.

Indications of the climate disruption refugee crisis are even more glaring in some other countries.

Large numbers of Guatemalan farmers already have to leave their land due to drought, flooding, and increasingly severe extreme weather events.

In low-lying Bangladesh, hundreds of thousands of people are already in the process of being displaced from coastal homes, and are moving into poverty-stricken areas of cities that are already unprepared to receive the influx of people. Given that 80 percent of the population of the country already lives in a flood plain, the crisis can only escalate with time as sea level rise continues to accelerate.



much more, great links:

https://truthout.org/articles/the-last-time-there-was-this-much-co2-trees-grew-at-the-south-pole/
 
I hope I live long enough to see Tropical forests in Antartica. BTW, why don't those Bangladeshis just migrate to the South Pole? It's not overcrowded there.
 
The Earth is currently in an Icehouse.

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"Antarctica freezes over
14 million years ago

Antarctica wasn’t always a frozen wasteland. It wasn’t until around 34 million years ago that the first small glaciers formed on the tops of Antarctica’s mountains. And it was 20 million years later, when world-wide temperatures dropped by 8 °C, that the glaciers’ ice froze onto the rock, and the southern ice sheet was born."

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/
 
Trumps own EPA administrator admits humans are effecting the climate, that global warming is a major issue, and it is something we need to address.

That's right. Trump's own main man on environmental issues agrees that humans are effecting the climate, and the world needs to address it.

That is a major step away, a significant retreat, a substantial walk-back from what Climate Deniers were attempting to claim a decade ago.

What is funny is that certain teabagging message board posters relentlessly cling to talking points that are over a decade old, debunked, and simply laughable at this point - aka, global warming is a hoax, scientists lied and faked the data, the warming is due to natural causes, no warming "since 1998", et. al.

EPA nominee calls climate change 'a huge issue,' but not 'the greatest crisis'

CNN) — Andrew Wheeler, the nominee to lead the Environmental Protection Agency and its current acting administrator, said he considers climate change an "eight or nine" on a one-to-10 scale of concern but that it is not the greatest crisis.

"I would not call it the greatest crisis," he said. "I consider it a huge issue that has to be addressed globally."

Wheeler reiterated that he believes climate change is real and is affected by human activity, and distanced himself from past comments from President Donald Trump, who has called climate change a Chinese hoax.

"I have not used the hoax word myself," Wheeler said.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/poli...ministrator-nominee-climate-change/index.html
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Cypress said:
Trumps own EPA administrator admits humans are effecting the climate, that global warming is a major issue, and it is something we need to address.

That's right. Trump's own main man on environmental issues agrees that humans are effecting the climate, and the world needs to address it.

That is a major step away, a significant retreat, a substantial walk-back from what Climate Deniers were attempting to claim a decade ago.

What is funny is that certain teabagging message board posters relentlessly cling to talking points that are over a decade old, debunked, and simply laughable at this point - aka, global warming is a hoax, scientists lied and faked the data, the warming is due to natural causes, no warming "since 1998", et. al.
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plus the Pentagon has been drawing up contingency plans for decades
 
reagansghost said:
The impact of runaway emissions is already upon us. Several cities in the northern U.S., such as Buffalo, Cincinnati and Duluth, are already preparing to receive migrants from states like Florida, where residents are beset with increasing flooding, brutal heat waves, more severe and frequent hurricanes, sea level rise, and a worse allergy season. City planners in the aforementioned cities are already preparing by trying to figure out how to create jobs and housing for an influx of new residents.

Indications of the climate disruption refugee crisis are even more glaring in some other countries.

Large numbers of Guatemalan farmers already have to leave their land due to drought, flooding, and increasingly severe extreme weather events.

In low-lying Bangladesh, hundreds of thousands of people are already in the process of being displaced from coastal homes, and are moving into poverty-stricken areas of cities that are already unprepared to receive the influx of people. Given that 80 percent of the population of the country already lives in a flood plain, the crisis can only escalate with time as sea level rise continues to accelerate.



much more, great links:

https://truthout.org/articles/the-last-time-there-was-this-much-co2-trees-grew-at-the-south-pole/
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Sounds like it is already too late. So fuck it

Let’s all fry together.
 
reagansghost said:
plus the Pentagon has been drawing up contingency plans for decades
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Internal company records show that Exxon's own scientists were telling corporate management back in the 1970s, that continuing to burn fossil fuels and release heat-trapping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere would raise global temperatures.

So the nexus between burning fossil fuels, releasing vast quantities of heat-trapping greenhouse gases, and the basic, well-known physics of heating the atmosphere by a greenhouse effect has been known about for over half a century.

Which makes Climate Deniers look preposterous, both from our current vantage point, and undoubtedly in the future history books yet to be written.
 
Cypress said:
Internal company records show that Exxon's own scientists were telling corporate management back in the 1970s, that continuing to burn fossil fuels and release heat-trapping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere would raise global temperatures.

So the nexus between burning fossil fuels, releasing vast quantities of heat-trapping greenhouse gases, and the basic, well-known physics of heating the atmosphere by a greenhouse effect has been known about for over half a century.

Which makes Climate Deniers look preposterous, both from our current vantage point, and undoubtedly in the future history books yet to be written.
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brainwashed by the corporately owned and operated politicians & MSM

greed is literally killing the planet
 
Florida, where residents are beset with increasing flooding, brutal heat waves, more severe and frequent hurricanes, sea level rise, and a worse allergy season.
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lol none of this is true ( worse allergies?
 
anonymoose said:
I hope I live long enough to see Tropical forests in Antartica. BTW, why don't those Bangladeshis just migrate to the South Pole? It's not overcrowded there.
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The obvious issue is that in Bangladesh, today, you have social networks, infrastructure, and intact ecosytems, all of which make for a higher quality of life than could be achieved by plonking those same people down in an equally warm location that lacks all those things. Global warming is going to mean many generations living much, much worse lives than they otherwise would have. It will mean human suffering on an unimaginable scale. And it will mean our descendants will curse those who were too stupid to see it coming.
 
anonymoose said:
I hope I live long enough to see Tropical forests in Antartica. BTW, why don't those Bangladeshis just migrate to the South Pole? It's not overcrowded there.
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Yepper, that's where all the undesirables will go! YOU can control that. FAMINE MIGRATION! You'll be wishing for little dark kids from south of the border.
 
Bigdog said:
The Earth is currently in an Icehouse.

1365p.jpg


"Antarctica freezes over
14 million years ago

Antarctica wasn’t always a frozen wasteland. It wasn’t until around 34 million years ago that the first small glaciers formed on the tops of Antarctica’s mountains. And it was 20 million years later, when world-wide temperatures dropped by 8 °C, that the glaciers’ ice froze onto the rock, and the southern ice sheet was born."

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/
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All of human civilization has occurred with Antarctica frozen and with global temperatures and weather patterns within a fairly narrow band. As we move rapidly outside that band, the trauma will be incredible.
 
You're looking at this all WRONG! Think just how much MORE 'waterfront' property developers all over the world will be able to sell.
 
Cypress said:
Internal company records show that Exxon's own scientists were telling corporate management back in the 1970s, that continuing to burn fossil fuels and release heat-trapping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere would raise global temperatures.

So the nexus between burning fossil fuels, releasing vast quantities of heat-trapping greenhouse gases, and the basic, well-known physics of heating the atmosphere by a greenhouse effect has been known about for over half a century.

Which makes Climate Deniers look preposterous, both from our current vantage point, and undoubtedly in the future history books yet to be written.
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Yeh so fucking what, very few people deny there is a anthropogenic signal. Arseholes like you always want to invoke RCP 8.5, the impossible scenario. I can see why of course, the other three RCPs including RCP6.0 are not so terrible and easily manageable and adapted to in the future. If you lot are all shitting yourselves about it, then you should be going hell for leather for 4th gen nuclear, hydrogen fuel cells and nuclear fusion, rather than spending tens of billions every year on useless renewable energy subsidies. Oh by the way I haven't called you a cunt for while, cunt!!
 
Teflon Don said:
Sounds like it is already too late. So fuck it

Let’s all fry together.
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There's a tendency among very low-IQ people to try to shove the issue into a binary situation -- where either it's not a problem at all, or it's a problem we can no longer do anything about. The point for them isn't to assess the actual situation accurately, but rather to impose a particular policy outcome (not doing anything about emissions), by any means necessary. Whether that means not doing anything because there's no problem, or not doing anything because nothing can be done, is all the same to them.

Of course, as any intelligent person will point out, it's not a binary system. Possible outcomes exist on a continuum, and we're deciding every day where along that continuum, from merely bad to horrifically catastrophic, we'll end up, and when. In that sense, it's more like the outcome of drug abuse or obesity. If you're fat, that doesn't mean you've already locked in a worst-case scenario so there's no point worrying about diet and exercise any more. Depending on how fat you get and how long you stay fat, there's a continuum of futures you can be looking at. You're never going to be as healthy and long-lived as you would have been if you hadn't gotten fat in the first place, but you still have lots of discretion about whether you live a fairly long and fulfilling life, or whether you live out your last few years a miserable shit who can barely pry himself off the couch.

If you embrace a fake fatalism to say "sounds like it's already too late," in order to give yourself the excuse to be lazy and self-indulgent, you're just locking in a worse outcome. With climate change, it's NEVER too late to avoid a still-worse outcome than has already been locked in. And the differences in degrees of worsening are literally life-and-death differences for millions.
 
Oneuli said:
The obvious issue is that in Bangladesh, today, you have social networks, infrastructure, and intact ecosytems, all of which make for a higher quality of life than could be achieved by plonking those same people down in an equally warm location that lacks all those things. Global warming is going to mean many generations living much, much worse lives than they otherwise would have. It will mean human suffering on an unimaginable scale. And it will mean our descendants will curse those who were too stupid to see it coming.
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Alarmist bullshit!!
 
reagansghost said:
The impact of runaway emissions is already upon us. Several cities in the northern U.S., such as Buffalo, Cincinnati and Duluth, are already preparing to receive migrants from states like Florida, where residents are beset with increasing flooding, brutal heat waves, more severe and frequent hurricanes, sea level rise, and a worse allergy season. City planners in the aforementioned cities are already preparing by trying to figure out how to create jobs and housing for an influx of new residents.

Indications of the climate disruption refugee crisis are even more glaring in some other countries.

Large numbers of Guatemalan farmers already have to leave their land due to drought, flooding, and increasingly severe extreme weather events.

In low-lying Bangladesh, hundreds of thousands of people are already in the process of being displaced from coastal homes, and are moving into poverty-stricken areas of cities that are already unprepared to receive the influx of people. Given that 80 percent of the population of the country already lives in a flood plain, the crisis can only escalate with time as sea level rise continues to accelerate.



much more, great links:

https://truthout.org/articles/the-last-time-there-was-this-much-co2-trees-grew-at-the-south-pole/
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How much stupidity can a person put into one post? See above
How many lies can a person put into one post? See above
 
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