Learning Curve top 20 countries for education

Still in the top 10%, which is all that matters. Especially since we had to have a constant output of bodies to fight the commies since Europe wasn't gonna be able.
 
According to who?
What criteria was used?
Typing a list and posting it evidences nothing.

When GCSES were first introduced a B grade required a score of 85% in the exam.

Today it requires only 16%.

Dropping standards to improve standings does not make good education.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The UK came sixth and the US way down at 17th.

Learning Curve top 20 countries for education


  • Finland
  • South Korea
  • Hong Kong
  • Japan
  • Singapore
  • UK
  • Netherlands
  • New Zealand
  • Switzerland
  • Canada
  • Ireland
  • Denmark
  • Australia
  • Poland
  • Germany
  • Belgium
  • USA
  • Hungary
  • Slovakia
  • Russia
http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/uk-education-comes-sixth-global-league-table-130000692.html
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That's for primary and secondary education and I would agree that given our resources, this is embarrasing but If you include post secondary education I believe the US would be #1.

Virtually anyone who has graduated from an accredited US State Land Grant University has attended one of the top 400 universities in the World. Nearly 200 of the top 400 Universities in the world are in the US. That inclueds 7 of the top 10 and 47 of the top 100 Universities in the world and this does not include graduate schools in which the US leads the world by far.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
That's for primary and secondary education and I would agree that given our resources, this is embarrasing but If you include post secondary education I believe the US would be #1.
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According to who again?
How was the information gathered?

You see, I know that education standards in the UK have dropped dramatically in the past 25 years, so more people pass their GCSE qualifications!!
16% for a B grade is not a good standard!
 
I was wondering where China was on the list. I have an exchange student here from China this year. He is much more advanced than my students in Math (OK, Maths, since this is Tom's thread ;)). When I asked him about his schooling he tells me that if they don't "get it" by a certain point/age, they get...and the only English word he could come up with to explain it was "separated." I explained that we couldn't do that here but that I do agree with it. I wonder go many of those top countries use a form of this in their general education. From what I can find out it does seem more common in the Asian cultures.

As a side note, having this student here has been a blast. He has participated in sports, the kids have taken him hunting and fishing. He missed a deer during deer season but talks about it all the time, telling the story to anyone who will listen. He scored points in the basketball game last night. He is learning a lot from our kids and our kids are learning a lot from him.
 
leaningright said:
I was wondering where China was on the list. I have an exchange student here from China this year. He is much more advanced than my students in Math (OK, Maths, since this is Tom's thread ;)). When I asked him about his schooling he tells me that if they don't "get it" by a certain point/age, they get...and the only English word he could come up with to explain it was "separated." I explained that we couldn't do that here but that I do agree with it. I wonder go many of those top countries use a form of this in their general education. From what I can find out it does seem more common in the Asian cultures.

As a side note, having this student here has been a blast. He has participated in sports, the kids have taken him hunting and fishing. He missed a deer during deer season but talks about it all the time, telling the story to anyone who will listen. He scored points in the basketball game last night. He is learning a lot from our kids and our kids are learning a lot from him.
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I must admit I am surprised about China but maybe it is hard to get data for the that country.
 
leaningright said:
I was wondering where China was on the list. I have an exchange student here from China this year. He is much more advanced than my students in Math (OK, Maths, since this is Tom's thread ;)). When I asked him about his schooling he tells me that if they don't "get it" by a certain point/age, they get...and the only English word he could come up with to explain it was "separated." I explained that we couldn't do that here but that I do agree with it. I wonder go many of those top countries use a form of this in their general education. From what I can find out it does seem more common in the Asian cultures.

As a side note, having this student here has been a blast. He has participated in sports, the kids have taken him hunting and fishing. He missed a deer during deer season but talks about it all the time, telling the story to anyone who will listen. He scored points in the basketball game last night. He is learning a lot from our kids and our kids are learning a lot from him.
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I worked for two and a half years as a research assistant in the materials science/engineering graduate school at OSU. All of my fellows on our project (6) were from Asia except one. It was interesting to note the differences. Academically the Asian students were far better educated in math and science than myself (I was out of my league with a biology education) and the other American on the team. Yet myself and the other American on our team of 7 had all the significant accomplisments in our group. The Asian students were great at taking test and lousy at getting anything done. Though the Asian students were academically stronger, they seriously lacked the ability to take the initiative and they were sorely lacking in imagination. Our project we were researching was "recycling inudstrial waste" and not one, not one single one of the Asian students ever came up with any ideas on how to do that, let alone one that worked.


Though I did have fun with them like you have from a cultural perspective. I taught three of them how to drive (one of them nearly hit a deer and was so zoned out he didn't even see it). Had a girlfriend take one of the Chinese girls to a beauty salon for a complete make over. She went in a scrawny plain Chinese girl and came out drop dead gorgeous. Couldn't believe my eyes. She was thrilled. Took a young Hindu kid from a very conservative family to a strip club. He enjoyed that. Took several of them to a rock concert. They returned the favor too. I was invited to several parties they had on campus and they even set me up with a drop dead beautiful Chinese girl when they found out I was single. I'll never forget the several dates we had. The woman was stunning.
 
007 said:
A more accurate view.
Number of degree holders in a nation is a clearer measurement.

http://247wallst.com/2012/01/31/the-10-most-educated-countries-in-the-world/3/

The UK comes in way behind the USA with only 37% of its population holding a degree.
USA has 41% of its population holding college degrees.

Your post is bullshit!!

Chav!
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It's not bullshit. We do lag behind most of the industrialized nations in math and science and language skills in elementary and secondary education. Where the US excells in education is in post secondary education where, as I stated, we're #1 in the world (my sources based on university ratings is from the Guardian and US News and World Reports of the top 100 and top 400 universities in the world).

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_ter_enr-education-tertiary-enrollment
 
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