Learnuing to Live with Terrorism?

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Each new attack, each new convulsion of fear, horror, grief and anger is a progressively greater test of enlightened civilization’s commitment to its core values.

But whoever struck the blow, whatever its malevolent purpose or toll, the response cannot be to abandon the respect for human rights, equality, reason and tolerance that is the aspiration of all democratic cultures. Though it has become almost a cliché to argue that the goal of terrorists is to bring their victims down to their moral level, it is also a truth, and it must be reaffirmed after every attack.

That is not to say that political leaders should take no action. Mr. Valls and President François Hollande cannot be faulted for assuming in the immediate aftermath of so vicious an attack on so exalted a day that it had been an act of terrorism, nor for extending the state of emergency — a measure giving the police extraordinary powers to search and detain suspected terrorists — for three more months. Only hours before the slaughter, Mr. Hollande had made clear that a state of emergency could not become the normal state of affairs: “That would be saying that we are no longer a republic with law that is applicable in all circumstances,” he declared.

That is what the French prime minister, Manuel Valls, did in the wake of the assault.
Warning France that it had to learn to live with terrorism, he declared that the only dignified response was for the French to remain faithful to the spirit of July 14, “which means a France brought together and united around its values.”

As Mr. Valls and many others have warned, there will be more terrorist attacks. More innocent lives will be lost. There is no way that the police can track every vengeance-seeking potential killer or neutralize every weapon as commonplace as a truck. What threatened nations and their leaders can do is to firmly instill the idea that the only sure defense is to stay true to what democratic societies really stand for.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/opinion/our-best-defense-against-terrorists.html?ref=opinion

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so that's it? uphold democratic liberal western values and then what?
Should we go on a more forward leaning war footing - more investigations,and more police powers?
anything???
 
so that's it? uphold democratic liberal western values and then what?
Should we go on a more forward leaning war footing - more investigations,and more police powers?
anything???

you know my views on it. Until and unless we treat it as a war everyone in this website will live their entire life enduring 5-10 major attacks a year. It is highly possible their children and grandchildren may as well.

Wars are temporary. We gave up some liberties to win ww2 and everything went back to normal after.
 
you know my views on it. Until and unless we treat it as a war everyone in this website will live their entire life enduring 5-10 major attacks a year. It is highly possible their children and grandchildren may as well. Wars are temporary. We gave up some liberties to win ww2 and everything went back to normal after.

When are you leaving for the Middle East to join the fight against Islamic terror? :)
 
There is no need to go to the muslime world. But there is no reason to allow them to come here. Those who support it obviously have a suicide wish and are traitors to this country. I truly hope that every JPP member who supports muslime immigration has a horrific act committed against a loved one
 
Offer up some platitudes and go after the NRA lol?
& ban assault trucks :rolleyes:

that's it. just live and die with terrorism..there is nothing we can do -so send in all the partially vetted Syrian refugees -
live with the migrations to Europe from Libya.. continue "multiculturalism" do not profile or give police powers such as reading Emails..

we're all gonna die sooner or later, and if it's sooner by jihadists...oh well..
 
Platitudes sound nice but the only response to war is overwhelming retaliation.

You guys still talk about terrorism like it's the cold war, or a country we're fighting.

I'm all for killing ISIS where we can find them, but it sounds like this guy was radicalized very quickly. It's hard to see what they could have done to find & stop him before this happened.

It's a depressing problem, and hard to see a concrete solution.
 
You guys still talk about terrorism like it's the cold war, or a country we're fighting.

I'm all for killing ISIS where we can find them, but it sounds like this guy was radicalized very quickly. It's hard to see what they could have done to find & stop him before this happened.

It's a depressing problem, and hard to see a concrete solution.

They seem to think they can outlaw Islam and solve the problem.
 
You guys still talk about terrorism like it's the cold war, or a country we're fighting.

I'm all for killing ISIS where we can find them, but it sounds like this guy was radicalized very quickly. It's hard to see what they could have done to find & stop him before this happened.

It's a depressing problem, and hard to see a concrete solution.

You can keep the fuckers out of your country you fucking idiot.

I am not kidding. I truly hope your family dies at the hands of ISIS in the most gruesome way and you have to live with it. I don't say it to shock. I truly wish it
 
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