Legacy of shame

Examples of proven or alleged political caging
From the Washington Post: "In 1981, the Republican National Committee sent letters to predominantly black neighborhoods in New Jersey, and when 45,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the committee compiled a challenge list to remove those voters from the rolls. The RNC sent off-duty law enforcement officials to the polls and hung posters in heavily black neighborhoods warning that violating election laws is a crime." Republicans however, denied that black voters were the target. An attorney for the RNC, Bobby Burchfield, stated that "troubling reports" of fictitious names such as Mary Poppins were appearing on Ohio's rolls and that is what prompted the challenges.

The Washington Post[11]: "In 1986, the RNC tried to have 31,000 voters, most of them black, removed from the rolls in Louisiana when a party mailer was returned. The consent decrees that resulted prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that target minorities or conduct mail campaigns to 'compile voter challenge lists.'" The Republican National Committee reportedly stopped the practice following the consent decree in the 1986 case, but allegations of RNC-conducted voter caging arose once again in the 2004 elections.

In October 2004, the BBC Newsnight program reported on an alleged George W. Bush campaign caging list, the existence of which suggested that the campaign might have been planning illegal disruption of African American voting in Jacksonville, Florida. The BBC obtained a document from George W. Bush's Florida campaign headquarters that was inadvertently e-mailed to the parody website GeorgeWBush.org. The program reported that the e-mail attachment contained a list of 1,886 voter names and addresses in largely African-American and Democratic areas of Jacksonville. Democratic Party officials and a number of journalists allege that the document is a caging list that the Bush campaign was going to use to issue mass challenges to African-American voters, in violation of the court ordered 1982 and 1987 consent decrees. Although Florida statutory law allows the parties to challenge voters at the polls, this practice is not allowed if the challenges appear to be race-based. Court documents produced during limited discovery in a challenge to use of cagings list in Ohio, revealed clear intent to use caging lists to challenge voters. Specifically, in the US District Court, District of New Jersey, Civil Action No. 81-3876, exhibit D, filed 10/29/04 and entitled "Declaration_of_Caroline_Hunter_and_emails_exh_d", emails exchanged between RNC operatives (Blaise Hazlewood, Caroline Hunter, Terry Nelson, and Tim Griffin), Bush-Cheney '04 campaign workers (Christopher Guith, Coddy Johnson, Robert Paduchik, and Dave DenHerder) and the Ohio Republican Party personnel (Mike Magan) revealed involvement of these entities in caging operations and intent to utilize the caging lists to challenge ballots in Ohio and other states[12]. Furthermore, these email exchanges also revealed concern about GOP fingerprints with ballot challenges based on caging lists in states that did not have flagged voter rolls[13]. The concern about GOP involvement in the email sent by Tim Griffin to Christopher Guith and others may have reflected knowledge of the fact that the RNC is prohibited by Consent Decrees from involvement in ballot security measures such as caging, when the measures have racial bias. Regardless of the intent of caging list design, there are no documented voter challenges based on caging lists in the 2004 elections.

The list came to light because of numerous e-mails accidentally addressed by, among others, Republican campaigners to the georgewbush.org anti-Bush site instead of the georgewbush.com Bush campaign site. Two of these e-mails had the subject line "Re: Caging" and contained Microsoft Excel spreadsheet file attachments called "Caging.xls" and "Caging-1.xls".[14][15].

Investigative reporter Greg Palast initially received the emails from the owner of georgewbush.org, and in a recent interview has drawn a link to the scandal surrounding the Alberto Gonzales U.S. Attorney firings, claiming that the firings are part of a wider effort by Republicans to use caging to "steal the 2008 election."[16]

In December 2007, Kansas GOP Chair Kris Kobach sent an email boasting that "to date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years!"[17]
 
The reaction to Katrina was a perfect example of why Black voters find it against their own interests to vote republican.
 
I just went through the links you provided. Some had nothing to do with voting and a couple were about Acorn which resulted in no vote fraud and consisted of people making up voters to get paid for the cards. In other words Acorn got screwed out of money which means they were victim not perpitraitors. Then a couple were think=gs like one guy being prosicuted for voting in the wrong district. Do I have to remind you Ann Coulter did the same thing and no one prosicuted her...why?
 
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylhR8i8D4tQ"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]

inconcievable, what the fuck are you doing?

Those dont have anything to do with vote fraud for the most part.


Are you refusing to comment on the fact that I provided solid evidence the Black voters dont like to vote for republicans because they disenfranchise them at the voting booth?

Your party has a history of keeping perfectly legal voters from voting.
 
Black voters don't vote Republican because all of the Dixiecrats left and became Republicans. It is one of the banes of the party.

That along with the RR having way too much power for their actual minority position in the party keeps the Rs from having a permanent majority of effective smaller government politicians.

Many of the stances of the R party are popular among black voters, such as vouchers for schools. However they won't cross because we continue to embrace, by a greater measure, those who were among those which worked to keep them from Civil Rights.
 
They dont vote republican because they are smart enough to determine the party has tried to harm them as a group in many ways.

They are too smart to vote republican.
 
They dont vote republican because they are smart enough to determine the party has tried to harm them as a group in many ways.

They are too smart to vote republican.
Or angry, either way it is reality.

Republicans of today do little to change it either. When Tancredo is the only one that shows up to a debate at the NAACP, then there is a problem.

This is one of the things I work to address in our area. There is no reason not to reach out and work to bring discource between Rs and Black Americans.
 
Need I remind you which party passed Jim Crow laws?

Which party fought the Civil War in an attempt to repress African Americans, opposed the Civil Rights Act, and now harbors a candidate who is prepared to use any means necesaary to keep a black man from being President?

As far as voter fraud goes, I;m still waiting for evidence - not "allegations" that the Republican Party has a policy of "targeting" black voters...

By the way, which party were the Mayor of New Orleans, the Governor of Louisiana, and Senator Mary Landrieu members of when Katrina struck?

I suppose they deserve none of the blame for the lack of preparation at the state and local level by virtue of the "D" after their names.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-01-31-katrina-hearing_x.htm
 
They dont vote republican because they are smart enough to determine the party has tried to harm them as a group in many ways.

They are too smart to vote republican.

They are doing so well voting Democrat. Just look at those thriving inner-cities.
 
Examples of proven or alleged political caging
From the Washington Post: "In 1981, the Republican National Committee sent letters to predominantly black neighborhoods in New Jersey, and when 45,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the committee compiled a challenge list to remove those voters from the rolls. The RNC sent off-duty law enforcement officials to the polls and hung posters in heavily black neighborhoods warning that violating election laws is a crime." Republicans however, denied that black voters were the target. An attorney for the RNC, Bobby Burchfield, stated that "troubling reports" of fictitious names such as Mary Poppins were appearing on Ohio's rolls and that is what prompted the challenges.

The Washington Post[11]: "In 1986, the RNC tried to have 31,000 voters, most of them black, removed from the rolls in Louisiana when a party mailer was returned. The consent decrees that resulted prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that target minorities or conduct mail campaigns to 'compile voter challenge lists.'" The Republican National Committee reportedly stopped the practice following the consent decree in the 1986 case, but allegations of RNC-conducted voter caging arose once again in the 2004 elections.

In October 2004, the BBC Newsnight program reported on an alleged George W. Bush campaign caging list, the existence of which suggested that the campaign might have been planning illegal disruption of African American voting in Jacksonville, Florida. The BBC obtained a document from George W. Bush's Florida campaign headquarters that was inadvertently e-mailed to the parody website GeorgeWBush.org. The program reported that the e-mail attachment contained a list of 1,886 voter names and addresses in largely African-American and Democratic areas of Jacksonville. Democratic Party officials and a number of journalists allege that the document is a caging list that the Bush campaign was going to use to issue mass challenges to African-American voters, in violation of the court ordered 1982 and 1987 consent decrees. Although Florida statutory law allows the parties to challenge voters at the polls, this practice is not allowed if the challenges appear to be race-based. Court documents produced during limited discovery in a challenge to use of cagings list in Ohio, revealed clear intent to use caging lists to challenge voters. Specifically, in the US District Court, District of New Jersey, Civil Action No. 81-3876, exhibit D, filed 10/29/04 and entitled "Declaration_of_Caroline_Hunter_and_emails_exh_d", emails exchanged between RNC operatives (Blaise Hazlewood, Caroline Hunter, Terry Nelson, and Tim Griffin), Bush-Cheney '04 campaign workers (Christopher Guith, Coddy Johnson, Robert Paduchik, and Dave DenHerder) and the Ohio Republican Party personnel (Mike Magan) revealed involvement of these entities in caging operations and intent to utilize the caging lists to challenge ballots in Ohio and other states[12]. Furthermore, these email exchanges also revealed concern about GOP fingerprints with ballot challenges based on caging lists in states that did not have flagged voter rolls[13]. The concern about GOP involvement in the email sent by Tim Griffin to Christopher Guith and others may have reflected knowledge of the fact that the RNC is prohibited by Consent Decrees from involvement in ballot security measures such as caging, when the measures have racial bias. Regardless of the intent of caging list design, there are no documented voter challenges based on caging lists in the 2004 elections.

The list came to light because of numerous e-mails accidentally addressed by, among others, Republican campaigners to the georgewbush.org anti-Bush site instead of the georgewbush.com Bush campaign site. Two of these e-mails had the subject line "Re: Caging" and contained Microsoft Excel spreadsheet file attachments called "Caging.xls" and "Caging-1.xls".[14][15].

Investigative reporter Greg Palast initially received the emails from the owner of georgewbush.org, and in a recent interview has drawn a link to the scandal surrounding the Alberto Gonzales U.S. Attorney firings, claiming that the firings are part of a wider effort by Republicans to use caging to "steal the 2008 election."[16]

In December 2007, Kansas GOP Chair Kris Kobach sent an email boasting that "to date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years!"[17]


Inconcievable, why do you refuse to recognise the facts here. The republican party was caught red handed. These are fact in history.

Why do you refuse facts?
 
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/consent+decree

A consent decree is a settlement that is contained in a court order. The court orders injunctive relief against the defendant and agrees to maintain jurisdiction over the case to ensure that the settlement is followed. (Injunctive relief is a remedy imposed by a court in which a party is instructed to do or not do something. Failure to obey the order may lead the court to find the party in Contempt and to impose other penalties.) Plaintiffs in lawsuits generally prefer consent decrees because they have the power of the court behind the agreements; defendants who wish to avoid publicity also tend to prefer such agreements because they limit the exposure of damaging details. Critics of consent decrees argue that federal district courts assert too much power over the defendant. They also contend that federal courts have imposed conditions on state and local governments in Civil Rights Cases that usurp the power of the states.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7422-2004Oct28.html

They have been continuing the process even with the consent decree.


The Republican challenges in Ohio, Wisconsin and other battleground states prompted civil rights and labor unions to sue in U.S. District Court in Newark, saying the GOP is violating a consent decree, issued in the 1980s by Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise and still in effect, that prevents the Republicans from starting "ballot security" programs to prevent voter fraud that target minorities.
 
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File[/ame]

more reading for you if you have the honesty to really address the issue.
 
Seems like nothing was proven. I wonder why?

So ,putting up notices stating that “violating election laws is a crime” proves the GOP “targets black voters”? Are you insinuating that black voters are predisposed to violate election laws?

“An alleged George W. Bush campaign caging list”, eh? Wow. Allegations equal evidence of guilt?

I was personally unaware of the existence or meaning of “caging”. Does it mean detecting fraudulent voters on the rolls and purging said rolls prior to an election?

What is wrong with that? Does it diminish the Democrats’ chances of victory?
 
http://www.re-quest.net/g2g/politics/election-2004/3rd-cir-110104.pdf

Vote caging is illegal.

This is a court document.

They have a long history of targeting black voters.

They have been caught and punished for using tactics which disenfranchise perfectly legal voters. It is fully documented.

You are protecting this behavior by defending it.

You are one lousy American if you would defend robbing legal voters of their vote.

To me its a treasonous act.

But then I love democracy, I guess you dont.
 
A majority of black voters vote democratic for the same reason crack addicts keep coming back to their dealer. The so-called assistance programs designed by the democraats in the 60s and 70s have trapped them in a socio-economic strata that is extremely difficult to break out of, while being hammered with the (false) threat that the evil republicans will cut them off first chance they get.

When one seriously analyzes the way minority assistance is put together, it is readily apparent that those programs were designed as a political trap, guaranteeing a consistent voter base by giving them just enough to encourage gratitude while guaranteeing they are trapped in the lower economic strata.

They did the same thing to Native Americans in the 60s. Built us government houses, built factories for us to slave - I mean work - in. And damn well guaranteed that if one of us uppity prairie niggers came off the reservation to have go at it on our own, all those "precious" handouts would stop dead. Put us in schools designed to teach us a whole lot of precious liberal ideals while ignoring little things like basic economic skills - balancing a check book or writing a solid resume were "part of the establishment" and tossed out in favor of feel good, do nothing "liberal arts" courses. Come out of school and find you had a bevy of knowledge that did absolutely nothing for finding and holding a good job.
 
Punishment?

Punishment? Was someone convicted of a crime? Was anyone sentenced? Fined?

I suppose you forgot to mention the dissenting opinion.

In 2000 we had alleged fraud in Florida, and then in 2004 there was alleged fraud in Ohio. Claims that were unsubstantiated.

In 2006 the Democrats regained control of both chambers of Congress.

None of them said there was any voter fraud (or complained about the Diebold machines that tallied their winning votes).

Do Democrats assume that if they fail to win there had to be fraud?
 
Back
Top