Let's Write A New Amendment Together To Drain The Swamp! Post Your Great Ideas Here.

PoliTalker said:
Hello DonaldvoTrumpovich,



That is a small part of it. They generally get re-elected because their seats are in gerrymandered districts and they face so little opposition.



That sounds like some cherry-picked right-slanted stuff there. And it was apparently from prior to the 2018 election in which the faces of Congress changed radically for younger and more female replacements. Is AOC even 30 years old? (besides being a total hottie)

With age comes wisdom. The job requirements for airline pilot and legislator are quite different. No way I would support an age limit for Congress.
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With age comes wisdom? Does that mean if you needed brain surgery, you'd want a doctor that's about 99 years old?

Of course I'm joking but there's no denying that cognitive ability does decline with age. In fact, 50% of people in their 80s have some form of dementia. Now I wonder how many members of Congress are in their 80s?

Also, the gerrymandered districts only applies to House members. Not Senators.
 
Money buying politicians is a huge problem.

1. Get rid of Citizens United. Limit campaign contributions to no more than $100 per person per candidate. Corporations are ppl too, my friend, and so are unions, PACs, etc. Better yet, establish a very limited fund that national candidates can draw from. Say $500G per election. Establish a finite limit on what a campaign can spend as well. If a broadcast TV station allows a candidate to purchase air time for a commercial, that station must give equal time to opposing candidates -- gratis. If a TV station gives an interview to one candidate, they have to give all opposing candidates equal time.

2. Have "public housing" in DC for our elected national reps and senators. That's where they stay while serving us. No more multi-million dollar homes/condos. You're there to serve, not flaunt your wealth.

3. Accepting money from lobbyists or others becomes a felony. You are arrested, tried, imprisoned, and lose any perks (such as salary or pension or insurance) garnered during your term.

4. Term limits. Three terms for reps., two for senators.

Just a start.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello and greetings,

Since we have so many great minds here, able to solve the problems of the world and all, what say we put our noggins together and come up with the wording for a new Amendment to drain the swamp of big money corruption in Washington DC?

We know that Citizens United greatly expanded the amount of big money being thrown at our government by the rich to buy influence.

A lot of that money has had the desired result.

The rich are getting a lot richer, taking almost all the wealth generated by amazing gains in productivity in recent decades, as workers are getting shoved out of good well-paying jobs and downgraded to lower paying work with fewer or no benefits. Working doesn't pay as much as investing big money, and it's taxed at a higher rate. The rich get richer, the rest find it increasingly difficult to make ends meet.

Where's the shared prosperity?

Clearly, our government is not doing a very good job of Promoting The General Welfare.

What can we do?

Well, if enough of us want to, we can amend the Constitution to make that illegal.

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Let's see if we can write as few words as possible, make it succinct, that will accomplish the desired goal but be simple enough that enough Americans will agree it should be part of our Constitution.

We figure we know everything about our country, right? So this should be a piece of cake for us know-it-alls.

Here we sit, wasting time, and we could be putting our minds together and doing something for our nation. We have the perfect tool with this chat room. All we have to do is put our minds together.

OK? OK. Good. Let's get started.

First we need to jot down just what it is we are trying to accomplish. So we need to brainstorm about what this document should do.

Then, after we work that out, we can boil it down to the actual wording.

Then we send it out to the world, hope it goes viral, force our government(s) to ratify it, and we drain the swamp.

Long shot, I know, but you don't know what you can do until you try. One thing is for sure. It won't happen if we don't try.

This is not intended to be an arguing thread. It's a brainstorming thread. So how about drop your guard, accept that each participant really wants a better America, and let's just talk this out, OK?

Good. Alright. Let's work together:

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A proper change in the tax code
 
Public financing of elections is the biggest step. No corporate or huge donations. Get rid of lobbyists. They are using their money for self-serving. Trump has lobbyists as head of the agencies that used to regulate them. Or a guy who is totally unqualified and inimical to the agencL,like Perry at the EPA.
No term limits is not the answer. They all can be voted out if they are no good after one term. If they are doing a good job, then they deserve to keep their seats. You get on better committees due to seniority. And, having to bring in new people and have them go through the learning experience is wasteful and inefficient.
 
Hello DonaldvoTrumpovich,

DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
With age comes wisdom? Does that mean if you needed brain surgery, you'd want a doctor that's about 99 years old?

Of course I'm joking but there's no denying that cognitive ability does decline with age. In fact, 50% of people in their 80s have some form of dementia. Now I wonder how many members of Congress are in their 80s?

Also, the gerrymandered districts only applies to House members. Not Senators.
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Most newly elected Democrats are younger women.

The old white men are generally Republicans.
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
Public financing of elections is the biggest step. No corporate or huge donations.
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So political donations should be illegal?

Nordberg said:
Get rid of lobbyists. They are using their money for self-serving.
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But what if the lobbyists are working for a union or a charity? If we make lobbying illegal those issue-based groups would have no way to try to influence Congress for the good they do.

Nordberg said:
No term limits is not the answer. They all can be voted out if they are no good after one term. If they are doing a good job, then they deserve to keep their seats. You get on better committees due to seniority. And, having to bring in new people and have them go through the learning experience is wasteful and inefficient.
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I agree with that.
 
The swamp would have to drain itself, and that isn't going to happen. It would be up to the politicians and, in spite of the popular perception, politicians take office and decide that they prefer the status quo. Of course, some are serious about change, but they soon find that they have to spend at least half of their time raising money.
 
Hello DonaldvoTrumpovich,

DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
So, With age comes wisdom? Does that mean the Republicans are wiser than the Democrats?
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It doesn't appear so.

Democrats argue issues.

Republicans all too often simply reword what Democrats say, and argue against what they themselves made up.

And the information is widely available about how the demographics are changing in America, with more Hispanics displacing whites, more people believing in socialism, rejecting for-profit health care, rejecting hatred, rejecting racism, rejecting misogyny, rejecting unregulated capitalism, rejecting xenophobia. One would think a party which seeks to retain power would try to appeal to the masses. But no. The Republicans cling to the rich and powerful, appeal to the haters and chauvinists. If it wasn't for Republican propaganda, voter suppression and gerrymandering, the Republican party would have died already. It's hanging by a thread of hatred, and being funded by a steady flow of Big Corrupt Corporate Cash. The problem with hatred is it eats away inside of whomever holds it.

Now there are those occasional altruistic Republicans who have higher morals, including never Trumpers, and they really believe their policy actually helps everyone, but they are so few in number they don't represent the party or matter much any more.

But that is all beside the point. We are here to identify what kind of new Amendment would address big money corruption in Washington DC.

I presume that is what is meant by 'Drain The Swamp,' isn't it?
 
ending big money donations.


every human being who is an American citizen my donate to a campaign


topped at 1000 bucks

every human being who is an American citizen my donate to a political party


topped at 1000 bucks




no business can participate


only humans
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello DonaldvoTrumpovich,



It doesn't appear so.

Democrats argue issues.

Republicans all too often simply reword what Democrats say, and argue against what they themselves made up.

And the information is widely available about how the demographics are changing in America, with more Hispanics displacing whites, more people believing in socialism, rejecting for-profit health care, rejecting hatred, rejecting racism, rejecting misogyny, rejecting unregulated capitalism, rejecting xenophobia. One would think a party which seeks to retain power would try to appeal to the masses. But no. The Republicans cling to the rich and powerful, appeal to the haters and chauvinists. If it wasn't for Republican propaganda, voter suppression and gerrymandering, the Republican party would have died already. It's hanging by a thread of hatred, and being funded by a steady flow of Big Corrupt Corporate Cash. The problem with hatred is it eats away inside of whomever holds it.

Now there are those occasional altruistic Republicans who have higher morals, including never Trumpers, and they really believe their policy actually helps everyone, but they are so few in number they don't represent the party or matter much any more.

But that is all beside the point. We are here to identify what kind of new Amendment would address big money corruption in Washington DC.

I presume that is what is meant by 'Drain The Swamp,' isn't it?
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So your saying your comment "With age comes wisdom" is wrong? Or is it wrong only when it applies to Republicans?
 
allowing businesses to give money to anything related to a campaign allows foreigners to participate


corporations are not always run or owned by Americans
 
Every member in the seats of the Congress of these United States shall create and pass a budget by a date certain, set by the President, in every fiscal year that also can and will be signed into law by the President or have the votes to override a Presidential veto, or such members of the Congress shall forgo being paid their salaries, gratuities and usage privileges of any government equipment util such time they are successful at creating such a budget. And every budget shall be in balance with receipts collected by the federal government except in times of wars actually declared by the Congress.
 
Robo said:
Every member in the seats of the Congress of these United States shall create and pass a budget by a date certain, set by the President, in every fiscal year that also can and will be signed into law by the President or have the votes to override a Presidential veto, or such members of the Congress shall forgo being paid their salaries, gratuities and usage privileges of any government equipment util such time they are successful at creating such a budget. And every budget shall be in balance with receipts collected by the federal government except in times of wars actually declared by the Congress.
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I'll drink to that!!!

And I love what you say in your signature.
 
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