LGBTQ rights in Russia

[Based Chad]

Pride in openly affirming one's own identity after centuries of oppression. Pride in the Stonewall uprising and its enduring consequences. Pride in self expression and letting the hateful, bigoted homophobes in the world that they lost. Any other stupid questions, stupid?

centuries of oppression......

lmao

 

[AProudLefty]

^^^This. They're marketing their perversions, especially the crossdressers and those sicko S&M leather vermin they're so proud of.

Not all of LGBT.

 

[Based Chad]

I would like to see a "fags from 1650" documentary.

 

[EdwinA]

Not all of LGBT.

Gee, you're right; only about 99% of them are. You got me, gimp.

 

[AProudLefty]

Gee, you're right; only about 99% of them are. You got me, gimp.

Nope. Try again.

 

[Based Chad]

it's like a couple old rich guys and a boy from the stables.

 

[EdwinA]

Nope. Try again.

Don't need to; you got nothing, and all the news media types censor 'Pride' Parades, because they know it's some sick shit going on. Politicizing mentally ill sexual fetishism is all it's about.

 

[AProudLefty]

Don't need to; you got nothing, and all the news media types censor 'Pride' Parades, because they know it's some sick shit going on. Politicizing mentally ill sexual fetishism is all it's about.

You pulled the number out of your ass.

 

[EdwinA]

Harry Hay: Pride and Pedophillia

The Original Sin of the Gay Rights Movement

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[EdwinA]

You pulled the number out of your ass.

Is that why you're sniffing and licking it?

 

[AProudLefty]

Is that why you're sniffing and licking it?

You're sick. Keep ìt to yourself.

 

[Scott]

The problem is that throughout history, some people have been discriminated against. I think we can agree that slavery, which is a severe form of discrimination, is wrong. But while we can probably agree on that point, there are many types of discrimination, some more subtle then others. In the opening post of this thread, I made some points of disagreement with some Russian laws and prevalent attitudes to the LGBTQ community- those points stand.

With slavery blacks were denied rights based on the color of their skin. They didn't deserve civil rights they deserved to have their rights just like whites.

Can we agree that they deserved the same civil rights enjoyed by whites? That's what the civil rights movement was about, by the way. Quoting from Wikipedia's page on the matter:
**
The civil rights movement was a social movement in the United States from 1954 to 1968 which aimed to abolish legalized racial segregation, discrimination, and disenfranchisement in the country, which most commonly affected African Americans. The movement had origins in the Reconstruction era in the late 19th century, and modern roots in the 1940s After years of nonviolent protests and civil disobedience campaigns, the civil rights movement achieved many of its legislative goals in the 1960s, during which it secured new protections in federal law for the civil rights of all Americans.
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Source:

Civil rights movement - Wikipedia

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[Scott]

I'd say that laws are made to clarify what governments allow people to do or not do. I think you're suggesting that the LGTBQ community considers itself to be above the law.

Nope. I am outright stating that they consider themselves eternal victims. Why? Because they feel entitled to supremacy

That's quite a sweeping assertion. The truth is something else, however. I strongly suspect that there is only one thing that all members of the LGTBQ have in common- that they are all part of the LGTBQ community. I know that some guy wrote a book with the title Eternal Victims, Eternal Victors, or something to that effect, but it's one thing to write a book with that title and quite another to start making assertions claiming that the LGTBQ is some kind of Borg like hive mind where everyone thinks the same way.

 

[Scott]

The problem is that throughout history, some people have been discriminated against.

The problem is that throughout history, some people claim to be eternal victims when they are, in fact, privileged.

You may well be right. For me, the issue is, which groups of people fit the bill? I think you're suggesting that the LGBT community fits that bill. I would counter that -some- in that community may fit that bill, but that's a far cry from claiming that -all- members of the LGBT community fit said bill.

 

[IBDaMann]

That's quite a sweeping assertion.

You fell for it, so you are quite aware that it is true.

The truth is something else, however.

My experience tells me exactly what the truth is, and I'm getting the feeling that you are going to echo the VICTIMHOOD narrative and confirm my assertion.

I strongly suspect that there is only one thing that all members of the LGTBQ have in common- that they are all part of the LGTBQ community.

I'm not talking about any members. AProudLefty tried and tried to divert me away from talking about the movement. Stick with that. There aren't any people who are lesbian and gay and bisexual and transexual and queer and intersex and all the others. LGBTQIAXXXXX+ is a movement. Yes, there are people in the movement, and some are straight, often politicians. So let's stick with the movement and let's not get sidetracked onto a different topic.

The movement is one of sexuality supremacy. That is undeniable. The movement claims eternal VICTIMHOOD. That is undeniable.

... and quite another to start making assertions claiming that the LGTBQ is some kind of Borg like hive mind where everyone thinks the same way.

Consider the assertion made, although I think it is patently obvious, so I'm not expecting any bonus points for pointing it out.

 

[IBDaMann]

I think you're suggesting that the LGBT community fits that bill.

I'm not using the term "LGBT community." I don't think that even makes sense.

The LGBTQIAXXXXXXXXXXXXX+ movement insists on supremacy and cries VICTIMHOOD when supremacy is denied.

I would counter that -some- in that community may fit that bil

I would counter that if they don't fit that bill then they aren't in that movement.

but that's a far cry from claiming that -all- members of the LGBT community fit said bill.

Fortunately, I'm not talking about people. A person is either in the movement or is not. Simply being gay, for example, does not put anyone in the movement. Any person, regardless of sexuality, is free to not wish to associate with such a movement, i.e. no one can be forced to be "LGBTQIAXXXXXXXXXXXXX+"

 

[AProudLefty]

You fell for it, so you are quite aware that it is true.


My experience tells me exactly what the truth is, and I'm getting the feeling that you are going to echo the VICTIMHOOD narrative and confirm my assertion.

Do tell us of your experience. It could explain your hatred of LGBT folks.

I'm not talking about any members. AProudLefty tried and tried to divert me away from talking about the movement. Stick with that. There aren't any people who are lesbian and gay and bisexual and transexual and queer and intersex and all the others. LGBTQIAXXXXX+ is a movement. Yes, there are people in the movement, and some are straight, often politicians. So let's stick with the movement and let's not get sidetracked onto a different topic.

I am not trying to divert you from talking about the "movement". The "movement" you allege is based on a few bad apples. You blame the LGBT folks for them.

The movement is one of sexuality supremacy. That is undeniable. The movement claims eternal VICTIMHOOD. That is undeniable.

Based on a few people.

It is the same logic as accusing heterosexuality of supremacy and movement based on a few people.

 

[AProudLefty]

I'm not using the term "LGBT community." I don't think that even makes sense.

The LGBTQIAXXXXXXXXXXXXX+ movement insists on supremacy and cries VICTIMHOOD when supremacy is denied.


I would counter that if they don't fit that bill then they aren't in that movement.


Fortunately, I'm not talking about people. A person is either in the movement or is not. Simply being gay, for example, does not put anyone in the movement. Any person, regardless of sexuality, is free to not wish to associate with such a movement, i.e. no one can be forced to be "LGBTQIAXXXXXXXXXXXXX+"

A person can be gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender and not be in so called movement.

Your calling it "LGBTQIAXXXXXXXXXXXXX+" is childish and unnecessary.

 

[EdwinA]

You may well be right. For me, the issue is, which groups of people fit the bill? I think you're suggesting that the LGBT community fits that bill. I would counter that -some- in that community may fit that bill, but that's a far cry from claiming that -all- members of the LGBT community fit said bill.

Stupid addled semantics, hoping to avoid admitting the majority of the deviants and fetishists do indeed support 'The Cause'.

 

[EdwinA]

A person can be gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender and not be in so called movement.

Your calling it "LGBTQIAXXXXXXXXXXXXX+" is childish and unnecessary.

Like claiming not every SS member liked Hitler; you would indeed find some SS thug somewhere who thought Hitler wasn't hard core enough.