cawacko
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What you choose to leave out is not all fast food workers make minimum wage. Even Mickey D's has managers and other non burger flipping positions. So give us the stats of those making minimum wage.
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What you choose to leave out is not all fast food workers make minimum wage. Even Mickey D's has managers and other non burger flipping positions. So give us the stats of those making minimum wage.
No you don't. You don't support responsibility at all. If you did, you'd want businesses to be more responsible by paying their workers more and not relying on government welfare to subsidize their profits.
You also make up shit, and then you pretend like you never said it.
Taking responsibility entails what? What the fuck would you know about responsibility? And who works the fast food jobs when the kids are in school? Does Burger King shut down between 9:00AM and 3:00PM every day?
I said who gets to decide. The one doing the paying.
Those wages aren't going to go up if welfare goes away. The solution is for the low skilled worker to better him/herself and if they can't, tough shit.
I'm for wage growth as long as the growth is earned and not handed to someone simply because they breathe.
The businesses aren't getting the welfare for the workers. The workers go get it because they have such low skills they can't earn more.
You're the one saying someone should get paid more because they exist. I want them to earn more instead of demanding it be given to them.
Never said all of them were. However, unless 100% have a diploma, it leaves a large percentage that are.
Maybe he means dropouts that stayed in school. CFM is lost.
Is it? You're the one who opposes sex education in schools. You're the one who opposes free birth control in insurance plans. You're the one who pushes abstinence-only education. You're the one who opposes abortion. You're the one who opposes free contraception.
So it seems to me that you purposefully don't educate people on sex, just so you can then sanctimoniously judge those people to make you feel better about being an underachiever personally.
Admit it; that's what you're doing, isn't it?
It absolutely is their responsibility because they're employing the worker, and are relying on government assistance to subsidize their profits.
You love corporate welfare, just admit it!
You love any kind of welfare where you can spin it to sanctimoniously judge others because you feel so shitty about your own station in life. The only way you can feel better about yourself is to judge others. And you can't even do that right because you get your facts wrong constantly. Like the makeup of the average fast food worker. You thought they were dropouts, but it turns out 70% of them have a high school degree.
So you were wrong. Where's your personal responsibility for being wrong?
Whoa, hold on a second. You said before that fast food workers were dropouts. Now you're saying they're not, and that they have a high school degree. You said before that no HS degree was justification for paying low wages, but now that you learned that most of those workers have degrees, suddenly you get back into that sanctimonious judginess.
Why not just admit that you're full of shit?
LOL!
Sure, they don't all make minimum wage.
Some of them make $0.25 above minimum wage.
But they all still universally get government assistance. Even some of the managers.
The one doing the paying makes that decision knowing that there are government assistance programs that provide supplements to the wage they offer.
Better themselves how? You don't want to offer free colleges and they get paid shitty wages and can't save for school, so how are they to "better themselves"? Explain yourself and your position, because it sounds to me like you're being generic because you haven't thought this through. Which is kinda your thing; not thinking things through and reacting.
That is the very definition of a wage. Wow. You're a fucking clueless idiot.
Yes they are because they pay them a wage that qualifies the workers for welfare programs. What is so hard for you to understand about that? Does your brain just not process words when they appear on your computer screen or what?
Not true!
First of all, you justified low wages by pretending that fast food workers were dropouts.
Then, when it was pointed out to you that most fast food workers are high school grads, you changed your argument to a subjective definition of "worth".
So you flip-flopped on your position. A position that you just came up with on the fly, wholly improvised because you're completely uninformed on the subject.
But know that you're not unique in that; most people like you rush to judgement all the time without knowing the facts. Why? Because you're a bunch of underachieving, underwhelming, uninspired moochers and slugs. People who sanctimoniously judge others because their station in life wasn't what they had been promised. Misery loves company.
CFM is a poseur, a fraud, and an underachieving loser.
The average wage for a McDonald's worker is $9.38/hr.
In order to not qualify for most government assistance programs, you need to make about $14/hr.
The average wage for a McDonald's Manager is $15/hr according to Glassdoor.com. That qualifies them for Obamacare subsidies and is before taxes.
cawacko
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Where are you seeing what percent receive government assistance?
Government assistance is determined by income. The average McDonald's wage is $9.38/hr. That qualifies you for welfare benefits. In fact, up to about $15/hr qualifies you for some kind of government assistance, be it SNAP or Obamacare.
I see you're trying to gaslight me, but it's not going to work.
cawacko
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Gaslight you? No, it's called having a discussion and within that discussion backing up your points with facts. What the study doesn't show is how many people work part time at McDonald's? For some 40 hours a week at McDonald's might be a full time job but for many its not.
But it goes back to the point which you ignore and then make personal attacks because the data doesn't support your case and that's minimum wage jobs aren't supposed to support a family.
I believe that if you don't like what you're being paid, you have two options. Better yourself to earn more or STFU about what you make.
Those businesses aren't the ones going to the welfare office and filing for handouts not do they determine pay based on whether or not people will make that choice. The pay is determined on what the skills are worth. Ultimately, it goes back to the person either offering skills worth a living wage or not offering them.