BartenderElite
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It's pathetic. And I like James Woods. Why is he even commenting on this?
Liberals are now performing witchcraft over Renee Good’s memorial in Minneapolis
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It's pathetic. And I like James Woods. Why is he even commenting on this?
T. A. Gardner
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What's wrong is, isn't this a memorial for Green? She's about as Mexican as a lifetime Berliner.
And that, whatever it is, ceremony? Like I said, is that some resurrected Aztec religious ritual or something?
Oh, I saw a protest here in the Phoenix metro area today. It was on a pedestrian overpass on US 60 near the Tempe - Mesa city limits. What a fucking joke that was. Just barely caught a quick glimpse as I sailed under it at 80 mph with traffic... Maybe 30-ish people...
Looks like a Native American spiritual dance.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Ah, all the stone age stupid without the human sacrifice, hum?
BartenderElite
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I mean, if Christianity wasn't mainstream - it has practices & beliefs that are pretty out there.
People believe what they believe. I have no idea why anyone comments in a derogatory way on any spiritual practices.
Don't diss the JPP posters' religions.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Christians don't bang their heads on the floor five times a day while mooning a rock in a box covered by a tarp at the bottom of a football stadium while a mass of unwashed humanity swirls around it like water going down a toilet bowl. Nor do they practice human sacrifice or have some misguided belief that EVERYTHING is "sacred."
So, as religions go Christianity is pretty mild mannered.
That's true. People often believe stupid things.
Buy the book:
Sure thing. They never burned women and girls at stakes. They never done any self-flagettation. Never handled poisonous snakes. Never want LGBT imprisoned and suffer. Etc.
Oh and here's the gem:
Care to revisit your statement?
Like you.
Indeed.Buy the book:
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
No, the Aztecs just flayed them--killed them then skinned them--and wore the skins. They also enjoyed ripping out their beating heart and eating it raw.
Self-flagellation is a Shiite thing while in Native American culture the sweat lodge does a milder version of it.
LGBT is widely frowned on, even in Native American culture regardless of what lies the Left spins to the contrary.
Why do you keep mentioning the Aztecs and their religious practices?
Certainly doesn't look brown.
Thanks for agreeing about Christianity having a history of making the LGBT suffer.
And what lies would that be?
What religion would that be?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The idea that Native American culture is generally accepting of LGBT. That is NOT the case.
Yes, many Native American cultures have historically supported diverse gender and sexual identities, often recognizing "Two-Spirit" individuals with unique spiritual and social roles, though colonial influence introduced conflicting views; today, there's a strong movement to reclaim these traditions, with varying levels of support across different tribes, and tribal leaders advocating for LGBTQ+ rights.
Historical Acceptance & "Two-Spirit" Roles
Diverse Genders: Before colonization, many tribes recognized more than two genders, with specific terms for feminine men (like Navajo's Nádleeh or Lakota's Winkte) and masculine women.
Spiritual Significance: "Two-Spirit" (a modern pan-Indian term) described individuals embodying both masculine and feminine spirits, holding respected roles in ceremonies and daily life, not just as gay or trans people.
Examples: The Crow's Osh-Tisch and Omaha's Mexoga were revered figures, blending male and female roles.
Impact of Colonization
Suppression: Missionaries, boarding schools, and assimilation policies suppressed these traditions, viewing them through a Western lens and leading to condemnation and violence.
Cultural Loss: Many traditions went underground or were lost, but this disruption also forced a pan-Indian movement to reclaim and redefine these identities.
Contemporary Support & Challenges
Reclamation: LGBTQ+ Native Americans are actively reviving Two-Spirit traditions, with national conferences and advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights.
Varying Tribal Laws: Support isn't uniform; some tribes, like the Fort Apache and Osage, allow same-sex marriage, while others, like the Navajo Nation (until recently reconsidering), have banned it, and many follow state laws.
Advocacy: Tribal leaders are fighting state restrictions on gender-affirming care, asserting tribal sovereignty.
In essence, while colonial history introduced conflict, the foundation for supporting diverse gender and sexual identities is deeply rooted in many Native cultures, with strong contemporary efforts to uphold and expand that acceptance.
Nope. That is you. No denying it either,..... swine.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The idea that Native American culture is generally accepting of LGBT. That is NOT the case.
No, this is revisionist history. They tolerated such stuff. It wasn't 'accepted' or encouraged by any means. Yours is something like a Dances With Wolves version of things. The Left today, wants to find ways to gain support for their political positions and a common one is revisionist history of the sort done by Howard Zinn.
Into the Night
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It's obvious. Conservatives would not build such a memorial or conduct witchcraft at it.
It is.
It is. Mostly white native Americans doing a ritual dance...witchcraft.
So?
Into the Night
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This is why the Bee has Not the Bee website, for actual news. It turned out their satire kept coming true!