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There have been an untold number of threads started, that either try to defend Martin or demonize Zimmerman.
To me the reason that so many threads have been started, is because the left are afraid that Zimmerman is going to found guilty and the left aren't really interested in the truth and only want a conviction based on feelings.
Now add in that the majority of those theads seem to either want to present some bloggers site as being the truth, or want to ignore what the really occured and would rather rewrite the incident.
For example: "Why did Zimmerman persue Martin, after being told to stay in his car". He wasn't told to stay in his car. When the dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he following the suspect and Zimmerman said yes, the dispatcher told him that he didn't have to do that.
Another example: When the report came out that Martin was shot from a range of 1" to 18", a poster immediately started using "foot and a half" as proof of something and when asked why he was ignoring the 1", his reply was "I'm not ignoring it, it's all within the same range". So why didnt he focus on the 1" range?
Another one: Trying to say that Martin was also "Standing his Ground", under the Florida law. How do you run away, return, and then say you were standing your ground. Any self defense course will tell you that you're not standing your ground, when you leave, and then return. Plus this information is going to get some idiot shot or convicted of assault; because once you leave, the IMMENENT THREAT is over and you returning can allow the other person to claim being the victim.
There are plenty more; but I'm not going to waste the time to continue to expose the hypocricy from the left.
From now on; the minute someone tries to discuss this and they use a lie, I'm going to ignore the rest they have to offer or even what they've offered before the lie.
Plus; after reading the discussion between legion and Damo and then legion trying to twist Damo's words around, I've decided to just completely ignore anything that legion says.
The lies aren't worth the time to continually argue about and legion just wants attention.
But the left can continue to try and spead their lies; but all they're doing is showing their desperation to have Zimmerman found guilty, no matter what.
Came back to add the 911 transcriipt:
Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin
Zimmerman:
We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.
This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?
Zimmerman:
He looks black.
911 dispatcher:
Did you see what he was wearing?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]
911 dispatcher:
He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.
Zimmerman:
Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]
911 dispatcher:
OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?
Zimmerman:
That’s the clubhouse.
911 dispatcher:
He’s near the clubhouse now?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.
And he’s a black male.[1:03]
911 dispatcher:
How old would you say he is?
Zimmerman:
He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.
911 dispatcher:
Late teens?
Zimmerman:
Uh, huh.
Something’s wrong with him. Yep, he’s coming to check me out.
He’s got something in his hands. I don’t know what his deal is. [01:20]
911 dispatcher:
Let me know if he does anything, OK?
Zimmerman:
OK.
911 dispatcher:
We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Zimmerman:
OK.
These assholes. They always get away.
When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]
911 dispatcher:
OK, so it’s on the left hand side of the clubhouse?
Zimmerman:
Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.
He’s running. [2:08]
911 dispatcher:
He’s running? Which way is he running?
Zimmerman:
Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]
911 dispatcher:
OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?
Zimmerman:
The back entrance.
[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ‘F-ing coons’ at 2:22]
<My inclusion: It's now been noted that an enhanced version shows him saying "...goons...">
911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
<My inclusion: Now where does it say that the dispatcher tell Zimmerman to stay in his car and not follow?>
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]
Zimmerman:
George. He ran.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, what’s your last name?
Zimmerman:
Zimmerman.
911 dispatcher:
What’s the phone number you’re calling from?
Zimmerman:
407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:
Yeah.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman:
Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]
Zimmerman:
Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you live in the area?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, yeah, I live here.
911 dispatcher:
OK, what’s your apartment number?
Zimmerman:
It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]
<My inclusion: Obviously Zimmerman is not longer following Martin; because he can't even see him to follow him.>
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]
Zimmerman:
Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …
Zimmerman:
Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]
911 dispatcher:
OK, that’s no problem.
Zimmerman:
My number … you’ve got it?
911 dispatcher:
Yeah, I’ve got it. 435-2400?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, you got it.
911 dispatcher:
OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]
Zimmerman:
Thanks.
911 dispatcher:
You’re welcome.
Call ends 4:07
To me the reason that so many threads have been started, is because the left are afraid that Zimmerman is going to found guilty and the left aren't really interested in the truth and only want a conviction based on feelings.
Now add in that the majority of those theads seem to either want to present some bloggers site as being the truth, or want to ignore what the really occured and would rather rewrite the incident.
For example: "Why did Zimmerman persue Martin, after being told to stay in his car". He wasn't told to stay in his car. When the dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he following the suspect and Zimmerman said yes, the dispatcher told him that he didn't have to do that.
Another example: When the report came out that Martin was shot from a range of 1" to 18", a poster immediately started using "foot and a half" as proof of something and when asked why he was ignoring the 1", his reply was "I'm not ignoring it, it's all within the same range". So why didnt he focus on the 1" range?
Another one: Trying to say that Martin was also "Standing his Ground", under the Florida law. How do you run away, return, and then say you were standing your ground. Any self defense course will tell you that you're not standing your ground, when you leave, and then return. Plus this information is going to get some idiot shot or convicted of assault; because once you leave, the IMMENENT THREAT is over and you returning can allow the other person to claim being the victim.
There are plenty more; but I'm not going to waste the time to continue to expose the hypocricy from the left.
From now on; the minute someone tries to discuss this and they use a lie, I'm going to ignore the rest they have to offer or even what they've offered before the lie.
Plus; after reading the discussion between legion and Damo and then legion trying to twist Damo's words around, I've decided to just completely ignore anything that legion says.
The lies aren't worth the time to continually argue about and legion just wants attention.
But the left can continue to try and spead their lies; but all they're doing is showing their desperation to have Zimmerman found guilty, no matter what.
Came back to add the 911 transcriipt:
Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin
Zimmerman:
We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.
This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?
Zimmerman:
He looks black.
911 dispatcher:
Did you see what he was wearing?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]
911 dispatcher:
He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.
Zimmerman:
Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]
911 dispatcher:
OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?
Zimmerman:
That’s the clubhouse.
911 dispatcher:
He’s near the clubhouse now?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.
And he’s a black male.[1:03]
911 dispatcher:
How old would you say he is?
Zimmerman:
He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.
911 dispatcher:
Late teens?
Zimmerman:
Uh, huh.
Something’s wrong with him. Yep, he’s coming to check me out.
He’s got something in his hands. I don’t know what his deal is. [01:20]
911 dispatcher:
Let me know if he does anything, OK?
Zimmerman:
OK.
911 dispatcher:
We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Zimmerman:
OK.
These assholes. They always get away.
When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]
911 dispatcher:
OK, so it’s on the left hand side of the clubhouse?
Zimmerman:
Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.
He’s running. [2:08]
911 dispatcher:
He’s running? Which way is he running?
Zimmerman:
Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]
911 dispatcher:
OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?
Zimmerman:
The back entrance.
[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ‘F-ing coons’ at 2:22]
<My inclusion: It's now been noted that an enhanced version shows him saying "...goons...">
911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
<My inclusion: Now where does it say that the dispatcher tell Zimmerman to stay in his car and not follow?>
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]
Zimmerman:
George. He ran.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, what’s your last name?
Zimmerman:
Zimmerman.
911 dispatcher:
What’s the phone number you’re calling from?
Zimmerman:
407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:
Yeah.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman:
Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]
Zimmerman:
Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you live in the area?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, yeah, I live here.
911 dispatcher:
OK, what’s your apartment number?
Zimmerman:
It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]
<My inclusion: Obviously Zimmerman is not longer following Martin; because he can't even see him to follow him.>
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]
Zimmerman:
Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …
Zimmerman:
Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]
911 dispatcher:
OK, that’s no problem.
Zimmerman:
My number … you’ve got it?
911 dispatcher:
Yeah, I’ve got it. 435-2400?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, you got it.
911 dispatcher:
OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]
Zimmerman:
Thanks.
911 dispatcher:
You’re welcome.
Call ends 4:07
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