Life Under Trump

ThatOwlWoman

Leftist Vermin
Hey, this ride's been great, right?!

So.... today the Dow dropped another 700 pts (2.5%) because the Bloviator-in-Chief is threatening to hit China with pointless, useless tariffs. If you're the average working Joe with a 401(k) retirement plan to supplement your social security benefits (see Paul Ryan about that), your fund just lost money. I really hope that you're not 55 yo or above.

If you're an average middle-class taxpayer happy with the crumbs of a tax cut tossed your way... ruh roh. If you buy things like TVs, phones, radios, smoke alarms, solar lights for your yard, sound equipment, chargers, tools, clothing, shoes, jewelry, cars, furniture, plastic items (ugh), toys, games, etc. get ready to pay much, much more. Raise your hand if you think this is going to benefit either you or the average American blue collar trump-voting worker who shops at the typical big box American store to supply her family with the above-listed goods.

If Trump gets his way, not only will your itty bitty tax cut be swallowed by what you will be paying more for consumer goods -- your retirement plan is going to take a very long time to regain the value it held in early 2017.

How's that Making America Great Again shit working out for you now?
 
What were Hillary and Bernie going to do to change China's behavior, that they complained about during the campaign, that wouldn't have the cost tariffs do to our economy?
 
What were Hillary and Bernie going to do to change China's behavior, that they complained about during the campaign, that wouldn't have the cost tariffs do to our economy?

I love how secretly pro trump you are.
 
I love how secretly pro trump you are.

1) it's great to see you run from the other thread. You are so clueless on how the Fed works you think the fact that Trump appointed Powell had something to do with what was being discussed

2) how was my comment in any way pro-Trump? Unlike you who claimed to support Bernie yet never started a thread about the guy, I posted multiple anti-Trump trade articles before the election. This is the exact reason why. His trade policy is a disaster. I asked the question I did because of unprincipled people like you. If Bernie or Hillary did this you wouldn't have a problem. But because it's Trump you claim to have found religion on free trade.

I know you come here to troll Jarod so it was probably a waste of time responding to you. But the question still stands to anyone who has principles on trade.


Edit: Not to mention Jarod is Owl's post is essentially saying people should have voted for Hillary. It's not pro-Trump to ask what Hillary would be doing.
 
It's kinda like we don't have a real gov't right now.

We went from no drama Obama to the chaos Presidency. Do people think the markets really love news like this every day?

Trump is a poor leader, and that's becoming more apparent w/ each passing day. Dems are going to trounce this year, and again in '20.
 
What were Hillary and Bernie going to do to change China's behavior, that they complained about during the campaign, that wouldn't have the cost tariffs do to our economy?

Explain to us in detail how you have suffered under China's imports to the U.S., minus tariffs. We'll wait. Here, you can borrow my dry-erase board.
 
Explain to us in detail how you have suffered under China's imports to the U.S., minus tariffs. We'll wait. Here, you can borrow my dry-erase board.

Not following the point of the question in how it relates to what Hillary or Bernie would have done
 
Hey, this ride's been great, right?!

So.... today the Dow dropped another 700 pts (2.5%) because the Bloviator-in-Chief is threatening to hit China with pointless, useless tariffs. If you're the average working Joe with a 401(k) retirement plan to supplement your social security benefits (see Paul Ryan about that), your fund just lost money. I really hope that you're not 55 yo or above.

If you're an average middle-class taxpayer happy with the crumbs of a tax cut tossed your way... ruh roh. If you buy things like TVs, phones, radios, smoke alarms, solar lights for your yard, sound equipment, chargers, tools, clothing, shoes, jewelry, cars, furniture, plastic items (ugh), toys, games, etc. get ready to pay much, much more. Raise your hand if you think this is going to benefit either you or the average American blue collar trump-voting worker who shops at the typical big box American store to supply her family with the above-listed goods.

If Trump gets his way, not only will your itty bitty tax cut be swallowed by what you will be paying more for consumer goods -- your retirement plan is going to take a very long time to regain the value it held in early 2017.

How's that Making America Great Again shit working out for you now?

Trump is incompetent, barely articulate, arrogant, and does not have the slightest idea what he is doing.
Who could have ever predicted?

I for one look forward to spending the next decade painting the Republican Party as the party of George Dumbya Bush, and Pussy Grabber Donald J. Drumpf.

Has there ever been a major global political party that was so enamoured with incompetence and ignorance?
 
So I'm a lifelong Republican who didn't vote for Trump, don't support his tariffs or his trade agenda but because I asked what Hillary or Bernie would be doing I'm pro-Trump? This is some good 1984 stuff right here.
 
Trump is incompetent, barely articulate, arrogant, and does not have the slightest idea what he is doing.
Who could have ever predicted?

I for one look forward to spending the next decade painting the Republican Party as the party of George Dumbya Bush, and Pussy Grabber Donald J. Drumpf.

Has there ever been a major global political party that was so enamoured with incompetence and ignorance?

Same question to you Cypress. What would Hillary or Bernie's trade policy look like to deal with China? You've been a vocal supporters of unions. Unions for a long time have supported tariffs. I can easily envision if this was Bernie slapping tariffs on China you would be arguing they are deserved and its being done for the American workers.
 
Hillary and Bernie are not POTUS. Your boy is. Happy now?

1) he's not my boy

2) your argument is people should have voted for Hillary. This is a discussion board. I'm asking what you think they would have done. It's not a question intended to start a fight.
 
Same question to you Cypress. What would Hillary or Bernie's trade policy look like to deal with China? You've been a vocal supporters of unions. Unions for a long time have supported tariffs. I can easily envision if this was Bernie slapping tariffs on China you would be arguing they are deserved and its being done for the American workers.

I don't know what Hillary would be doing about China, she is not president.


I do know Hillary is capable, experienced, deliberative, and generally respected on the world stage.
I also know the Orange Clown you defend and run interference for relentlessly is totally unprepared, incompetent, unqualified, and incapable of being a diplomat or leader of the free world.

We judge people on how we perceive their capabilities.
Your game of hypotheticals does not cut it.
 
I don't know what Hillary would be doing about China, she is not president.


I do know Hillary is capable, experienced, deliberative, and generally respected on the world stage.
I also know the Orange Clown you defend and run interference for relentlessly is totally unprepared, incompetent, unqualified, and incapable of being a diplomat or leader of the free world.

We judge people on how we perceive their capabilities.
Your game of hypotheticals does not cut it.

Wow. Is anyone on this board capable of discussing what we would like to see on trade policy? Or are we all the same idiots we mock everyone else for being?

Unions have historically supported tariffs. What is it about these tariffs and trade policy you think unions wouldn't like? (not a rhetorical question nor is it a question to start a fight. It's an actual discussion)
 
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