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Taichiliberal said:
Southie, you only embarass me by consistently demonstrating your inept and sloppy research coupled with your willful yet proud ignorance. I'm actually embarassed for you. But hope springs eternal, so let me take you to school again:

First off, this is what you originally stated:

about 25% of black males kill each other before the age of 25, and crappy public schools ensure the demise of most who are left

And this is what the source of your statement you provided actually said:

And tragically in the last two decades, murder has been at or near the top of the list of the leading causes of death of black males under age 25 years.

Now you're not a stupid man, so I trust I don't have to explain the glaring differences here, and why your statement is not only inaccurate, but based solely on a generalized observation of one columnist.


And as to the statements of the PRO-LIFE organization that is black, here's a few statements from a professional in the field that may enlighten you:

Behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. African American women have higher abortion rates than their white peers because they have much higher rates of unintended pregnancy--three times higher than those of white women. In other words, there is no need to resort to far-flung conspiracy theories to explain the higher abortion rate among black women.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/08/12/health-care-inequality-key-abortion-rate-disparities

And a few other points of interests:

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/77293/?page=entire

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/02/14/a-foundation-of-mistrust

Like I told you before Southie, your David Duke inspired approach just isn't cutting it. You consistently on one end portray black people as perpetual dupes of the great socialist/communist/Democrat/liberal conspiracy...only to give them credit as semi-intelligent good little negroes when they tell you what you want to hear. But when black folk tell you different, well as I mentioned here your attitude becomes different.

Your a mass of contradictions derived from your stubborn defense of your willful ignorance and preconceived notions. Nothing surprising there....carry on.
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Taichiliberal said:
I'm embarassed for you, Southie....you're just too dumb and proud to see that. You consistently contradict yourself...portraying black folk as eternal patsies of the dreaded socialist/communist/liberal/democrat conspiracy....yet when some black person(s) tells you what you want to hear, suddenly they are good little negros that have seen the light. Yeah, that old hat has been kicke around for centuries, long before David Duke and his ilk gave you a new way to "intellectualize" your prejudices.

Here's your original quote:

And tragically in the last two decades, murder has been at or near the top of the list of the leading causes of death of black males under age 25 years.

Here's what your source said:

about 25% of black males kill each other before the age of 25, and crappy public schools ensure the demise of most who are left.

I trust I don't have to spell out the glaring error in your statement, or that your source gave a generalized opinion, which is NOT documented statistical fact. Now you can run along and give DOJ reports on black crime rates, but you can't find a word for word corroboration of your original statement. I hope you understand the differences before wasting time repeating your error.

And as for the abortion information you put forth from an anti-abortion/pro-life organization that happens to be black....here's a little contrary information from a doctor in the field that should enlighten you:

Behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. African American women have higher abortion rates than their white peers because they have much higher rates of unintended pregnancy--three times higher than those of white women. In other words, there is no need to resort to far-flung conspiracy theories to explain the higher abortion rate among black women.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/08/12/health-care-inequality-key-abortion-rate-disparities

And a few additional FYI:

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/77293/?page=entire

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/02/14/a-foundation-of-mistrust
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Wow Taichi, you must have worked on this for some time to respond twice to the same post with a little different grammar each time. Unfortunately you failed on both points, both times.

First, you claim that my source said what I said and vice-versa. Then you whine that we didn’t use the exact same language; what a limp-wristed response from you because the fact remains that a leading if not the leading cause of death of black males is, black males.

Second, you cite someone’s opinion as to why a majority abortion clinics are located in minority areas. The fact is, they are, which is exactly what I’ve stated. You can rationalize why all you want, but Margaret Sanger and the KKK have met their goals through liberal policies, which you, as a black liberal, fully support.
 
Southern Man said:
Wow Taichi, you must have worked on this for some time to respond twice to the same post with a little different grammar each time. Unfortunately you failed on both points, both times.

Put your skirt down and relax, Southie. The near duplication is due to a time factor on responses....if you walk away from the keyboard for a time, you lose the reply, and have to boot back to the blank page under the quote you're responding to. So the secondary parallel response is a result of that...with an error, as I incorrectly reversed a quote at one point. But for some bizarre reason, BOTH response now show up. Hey, computer stuff beyond me...no big deal. Now, let's see what lame attempt you have to logically prove that I've "failed" in my response.

First, you claim that my source said what I said and vice-versa. Then you whine that we didn’t use the exact same language; what a limp-wristed response from you because the fact remains that a leading if not the leading cause of death of black males is, black males.

I forgot you're not too bright.......evidently you don't understand the difference between what you and your source said. I'll dumb it down for you: You claimed the following: about 25% of black males kill each other before the age of 25, and crappy public schools ensure the demise of most who are left But when you give a source, he states the following: And tragically in the last two decades, murder has been at or near the top of the list of the leading causes of death of black males under age 25 years. Now, your source material DOES NOT state or corroborate or verify that 25% of the male black population are committing murder. Where did you get that percentage? An Assumption? Maybe you don't understand the difference between an age group and a percentage amount? I don't deny black crime rate, murders, etc., I just won't let jokers like you exaggerate or lie to suit your agenda.

Second, you cite someone’s opinion as to why a majority abortion clinics are located in minority areas. Wrong: I gave you a DOCTOR who is in the field, who's job it is to research such incidences in order to facilitate better treatment of her patients. It was a counter to the information you sited from a pro-life organization....one side of the coin. I gave the other side.....and you don't like it. The fact is, they are, which is exactly what I’ve stated. You can rationalize why all you want, but Margaret Sanger and the KKK have met their goals through liberal policies, which you, as a black liberal, fully support.
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If that were the case, then why are the majority of abortions are being performed on caucasian women? And in MANY states, it's not the old "because caucasians are the majority population" ploy. This is old news

http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp


Black communities have long been dumping grounds for society's "dirty work"....just look at current controvery over the smoke stack industries placing factories in predominantly black/hispanic urban areas. Now there's been voiced concerns over unwanted pregnancies and abortions in the black community for years, and the use of the word "genocide" LONG preceded the abortion angle....much in a sense that you would immediately dismiss and disagree with. But this "genocide" angle from the religious right has found monetary support from the non-black pro-life movement (who didn't give a damn about black folk in general until it suited their purposes). Hey, everyones got an opinion and viewpoint...but when when jokers like you start with the usual StormFront spin on information, I'll just call you on it....your hissy fit's non-withstanding.
 
Taichiliberal said:
If that were the case, then why are the majority of abortions are being performed on caucasian women? And in MANY states, it's not the old "because caucasians are the majority population" ploy. This is old news

http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp


Black communities have long been dumping grounds for society's "dirty work"....just look at current controvery over the smoke stack industries placing factories in predominantly black/hispanic urban areas. Now there's been voiced concerns over unwanted pregnancies and abortions in the black community for years, and the use of the word "genocide" LONG preceded the abortion angle....much in a sense that you would immediately dismiss and disagree with. But this "genocide" angle from the religious right has found monetary support from the non-black pro-life movement (who didn't give a damn about black folk in general until it suited their purposes). Hey, everyones got an opinion and viewpoint...but when when jokers like you start with the usual StormFront spin on information, I'll just call you on it....your hissy fit's non-withstanding.
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Liberal values are causing black males to kill each other at faster rates:
According to the study by researchers at Northeastern University in Boston, homicides committed by black men increased 20% from 2000 through 2007, while homicides by young white men increased just 2.6%. Amazingly, in Wisconsin the homicides committed by black men increased 47% while the rate for white men decreased 19%, according to the study. ...

Solutions are few and far between, but it seems clear too many young black males deal with a form of personal anger that drives them to kill each other over real or imagined slights. I also think their behavior is akin to extreme acts of self-hatred between individuals who don't respect any human life, including their own. In that sense, the only real solution has to come from a change in the behavior of the very same young black men who are making each other obsolete.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/37021539.html

Democrat sponsored abortion clinics target blacks:
...while blacks made up 17 percent of live births, they made up more than twice that share of abortions (36 percent).
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348649,00.html
 
Threedee said:
BTW Limbaugh is clever enough to have known that this outcome was inevitable. So the question is, what point was he trying to make out of all this hooplah?
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Oh sure .. now he knew this would happen and he did it to demonstrate his racist background to the planet and to be rejected AGAIN by the NFL and to be publicly distanced by Checketts and the rich guy owners and to give the left and people with brains the pleasure of watching his rejection.

Good plan.
 
blackascoal said:
Oh sure .. now he knew this would happen and he did it to demonstrate his racist background to the planet and to be rejected AGAIN by the NFL and to be publicly distanced by Checketts and the rich guy owners and to give the left and people with brains the pleasure of watching his rejection.

Good plan.
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I think Threedee may have a point. While the acccompanying publicity may have brought about rejection from most of us, it also would solidify and possibly increase his "Dittohead" following. Who knows what was behind his joining the Chedketts group, but if they didn't anticipate the publicity that came along with the Limbaugh included purchasing group, then they are a group of not very bright "rich guys".
 
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belme1201 said:
I think Threedee may have a point. While the acccompanying publicity may have brought about rejection from most of us, it also would solidify and possibly increase his "Dittohead" following. Who knows what was behind his joining the Chedketts group, but if they didn't anticipate the publicity that came along with the Limbaugh included purchasing group, then they are a group of not very bright "rich guys".
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And for what nefarious purpose would the Checketts group have for engaging in such folly? How does Checketts benefit from this?

Why would Limpy need to go through such macinations to "solidify" his base of morons who already see him as god?

None of that makes any sense.

He thought he could pull it off .. and he couldn't.
 
blackascoal said:
And for what nefarious purpose would the Checketts group have for engaging in such folly? How does Checketts benefit from this?

Why would Limpy need to go through such macinations to "solidify" his base of morons who already see him as god?

None of that makes any sense.

He thought he could pull it off .. and he couldn't.
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That's why I thought it might be a group of "dumb" rich guys, which is the only way to make sense of it. Dittoheads are a strange lot, who can tell what Limbaugh was thinking?
 
belme1201 said:
That's why I thought it might be a group of "dumb" rich guys, which is the only way to make sense of it. Dittoheads are a strange lot, who can tell what Limbaugh was thinking?
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There's nothing like an ill-informed smear of an entire group to prove your intelligence.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
If that were the case, then why are the majority of abortions are being performed on caucasian women? And in MANY states, it's not the old "because caucasians are the majority population" ploy. This is old news

http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp


Black communities have long been dumping grounds for society's "dirty work"....just look at current controvery over the smoke stack industries placing factories in predominantly black/hispanic urban areas. Now there's been voiced concerns over unwanted pregnancies and abortions in the black community for years, and the use of the word "genocide" LONG preceded the abortion angle....much in a sense that you would immediately dismiss and disagree with. But this "genocide" angle from the religious right has found monetary support from the non-black pro-life movement (who didn't give a damn about black folk in general until it suited their purposes). Hey, everyones got an opinion and viewpoint...but when when jokers like you start with the usual StormFront spin on information, I'll just call you on it....your hissy fit's non-withstanding.
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Southern Man said:
Liberal values are causing black males to kill each other at faster rates: http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/37021539.html


Liberal values are causing black males to kill each other at faster rates:
Quote:
According to the study by researchers at Northeastern University in Boston, homicides committed by black men increased 20% from 2000 through 2007, while homicides by young white men increased just 2.6%. Amazingly, in Wisconsin the homicides committed by black men increased 47% while the rate for white men decreased 19%, according to the study. ...

Solutions are few and far between, but it seems clear too many young black males deal with a form of personal anger that drives them to kill each other over real or imagined slights. I also think their behavior is akin to extreme acts of self-hatred between individuals who don't respect any human life, including their own. In that sense, the only real solution has to come from a change in the behavior of the very same young black men who are making each other obsolete.

Hey Dr. Shockley acolyte, WHERE DOES THIS LITTLE DITTY LOGICALLY AND CONCLUSIVELY PROVE AND STATES THAT "LIBERAL VALUES" ARE AT FAULT HERE? And as always, what was the comparison as to the economic status of the neighborhoods, individuals involved, educational level, etc. In other, my little David Duke wanna be, comparing caucasians in Ozzie and Harriet conclaves/counties, towns, etc., to black folk in poor inner city areas is a bit disingenuous, to say the least.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/37021539.html

Democrat sponsored abortion clinics target blacks:
Quote:
...while blacks made up 17 percent of live births, they made up more than twice that share of abortions (36 percent).

Democrat sponsored abortion clinics target blacks: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348649,00.html
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Are you and FOX aware of the previous information I posted (because NOTHING HERE CHANGES THOSE STATS)....or that the Democratic party does NOT directly support abortion clinics? (if you can prove otherwise, then please do) Or that abortion clinics operated through both Bush administrations and Reagan? Or that it fits right into what the doctor in my previous source was pointing out, minus the slanted Fox report. http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp
Oh, and here's the outcome of little Lila's PR stunt:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=14105

http://www.alternet.org/sex/140347/anti-choice_abortion_warriors_have_a_new_poster_girl/

Oh, and since there was no official investigation that proved Rose's edited and hyped tapes to be a valid conclusion of her accusations, it's just more meat for the willfully ignorant neocon parrots to swallow.

Spam this crap all you want Southie, I'll just keep knocking it down and watch you deny and avoid contrary facts and information, or continually put a hold on the cognitive reasoning skills that God gave you.
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
But Planned Parenthood did NOT follow Sanger's eugenics or bigoted beliefs. Once again, the you fall flat on your ass. Here, learn something:

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AssHatZombie said:
Of course they did. The main goal is killing babies of poor people. That they did in spades.
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And of course, you're not informed as to what's going on.....here's some old news that shreds your statement

http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp
 
Taichiliberal said:
Are you and FOX aware of the previous information I posted (because NOTHING HERE CHANGES THOSE STATS)....or that the Democratic party does NOT directly support abortion clinics? (if you can prove otherwise, then please do) Or that abortion clinics operated through both Bush administrations and Reagan? Or that it fits right into what the doctor in my previous source was pointing out, minus the slanted Fox report. http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp
Oh, and here's the outcome of little Lila's PR stunt:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=14105

http://www.alternet.org/sex/140347/anti-choice_abortion_warriors_have_a_new_poster_girl/

Oh, and since there was no official investigation that proved Rose's edited and hyped tapes to be a valid conclusion of her accusations, it's just more meat for the willfully ignorant neocon parrots to swallow.

Spam this crap all you want Southie, I'll just keep knocking it down and watch you deny and avoid contrary facts and information, or continually put a hold on the cognitive reasoning skills that God gave you.
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Young black men kill each other at over twice the rate of whites; black women abort their babies more often than whites, and black men abandon their families at a truly alarming rate in comparison with whites.

The Declaration of Independence states that "all men are created equal", and I believe that. So I'll ask you, Mr. black liberal, what is the cause of these disparities?

The obvious answer: blacks tend to live in urban areas, which are controlled by Democrat politicians who use liberal policies. Liberal culture denigrates life and celebrates death. Therefore liberal Democrats are the cause of these disparities.
 
Hey Southerntool, address an African American Man your size as blackie in public and let me know how that works out for you.
Ten years ago I thought a lot like you. Then I read about the issues.
 
Topspin said:
Hey Southerntool, address an African American Man your size as blackie in public and let me know how that works out for you.
Ten years ago I thought a lot like you. Then I read about the issues.
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Hey Topstool, insult my wife or daughter like you did here in this forum to my face in public and let me know how that works out for you. :pke:
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Are you and FOX aware of the previous information I posted (because NOTHING HERE CHANGES THOSE STATS)....or that the Democratic party does NOT directly support abortion clinics? (if you can prove otherwise, then please do) Or that abortion clinics operated through both Bush administrations and Reagan? Or that it fits right into what the doctor in my previous source was pointing out, minus the slanted Fox report. http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/race.asp
Oh, and here's the outcome of little Lila's PR stunt:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...y.asp?ID=14105

http://www.alternet.org/sex/140347/a...w_poster_girl/

Oh, and since there was no official investigation that proved Rose's edited and hyped tapes to be a valid conclusion of her accusations, it's just more meat for the willfully ignorant neocon parrots to swallow.

Spam this crap all you want Southie, I'll just keep knocking it down and watch you deny and avoid contrary facts and information, or continually put a hold on the cognitive reasoning skills that God gave you.
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Southern Man said:
Young black men kill each other at over twice the rate of whites; black women abort their babies more often than whites, and black men abandon their families at a truly alarming rate in comparison with whites.

And yet the majority of single moms on welfare are white, the majority of rapists are white, and the majority of dead beat dads regarding alimony and child support are white. All at alarming rates and increasing in frequency, regardless of the excuse of "majority population" comparison. Also, the percentage of murders attributed to black folk dropped about 5% in the last 8 years, while increased among whites. Also, you fail to mention that percentage wise blacks make up a hefty number of cops, military servicemen, clergy, social workers, doctors, lawyers, etc. for their population.

The Declaration of Independence states that "all men are created equal", and I believe that. So I'll ask you, Mr. black liberal, what is the cause of these disparities?

Ahhh, so now we are at the crux of your ramblings....blacks are inferior to whites. Hmmm, well given how you IGNORE statistical information that contradicted your rants about abortion and genocide, it would seem that it's not the liberals who are out to eliminate black folk, but YOU and those who think like you. See Southie, sheet wearing assholes like yourself just need a little prodding before you get frustrated and whip that hood out.

The obvious answer: Obvious to David Duke, Dr. Shockley, and all like minded assholes who just ingore what doesn't fit into their racists rants, as I've demonstrated above. blacks tend to live in urban areas, Obviously, this ignorant lout has never heard of "red lining" in the real estate market, or knows of the "white flight" to the suburbs during the 1960's . Southie is a typical bigot...long on propaganda, short on knowledge. which are controlled by Democrat politicians Hmm, Dems control entire cities, the abortion clinics.....WHERE'S THE PROOF, YOU SHEET WEARING BUFFOON? Your word doesn't mean squat. who use liberal policies. Liberal culture denigrates life and celebrates death. Therefore liberal Democrats are the cause of these disparities.
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See folks, this asshole couldn't handle Limbaugh getting kicked in the ass by his conservative bretheren who own the NFL, so he started raging about black folk and abortions. When I took him to task, he just ignored any and all information I gave and just started rambling the usual BS you can find at StormFront or David Duke rallies and the like. He's a coward and a liar....because he'll NEVER admit error or honestly answer any of my counter points. Southie is a throw back, a disgrace to all Southerners who have moved on from such a mindset....so much more to pity him.
 
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