List of GOOD things that Bush did

Onceler said:
No oops, Yurtsie. I asked "how many." We've been attacked a few times; it depends on what you'd like to count. But it works out to about once every 3-4 decades.

So, somehow, the great GW Bush deserves credit for "keeping us safe" after 9/11, because we weren't attacked again for SEVEN years. Not 3-4 decades; 7 years.

The fact is, his actions have made us less safe, at least according to the last few NIE's.

So, he deserves no credit, unless you want to think irrationally.
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...so because in the past attacks happen only once in a while then they should only happen once in a while forever....explain WWI and WWII....using your logic we should have never had either as either never happened and when they did only mere decades apart....how can you honestly ignore new threats? what about the iran embassy? never happened before, but it did....why? islamic radicals...

seems you have also forgotten about the attacks in spain, britian and don't forget the one famous case of the guy they caught in seattle, wake up dude...you're being dangerously naive to think AQ had planned only one attack

futher:

if he deserves no credit for no attacks then he deserves no credit for the attacks....you can't have it both ways, that is irrational to think so

you have no clue how many attacks have been thwarted, you think they make every case public knowledge? those NIE's are terrorists threats and according to you we can't take them seriously after all, they are just terrorists....DUH

how can you you claim in a prior post not to take those serious yet NOW claim that bush has made us more unsafe based on reports....yet oddly, no attacks on our soil...
 
ib1yysguy said:
There's a huge difference between a threat and a warning, and I think you know that. And they're clearly not ignored. They're investigated, as they should be. You stupid stupid dolt. Do you guys try to dumb down your arguments? Would it really be that hard to think about this stuff a little or exhibit some honesty now and again?

He didn't challenge someone to come up with "an incident" either. He was making a point about how utterly rare they are and the fact that we haven't had one in 7 years isn't that impressive when you THINK.
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you're are naive to think there have been no further warnings, especially in relations to threats...you understimate your foe, but i guess you're ain't wise as you think

the point is stupid...so because it never happened means it can never happen, you both are unreal
 
So, just to recap here.

He saved some trees, gave more of your money to Africa and stopped people ringing up Damo to sell him stuff he didn't want.

An eight year record even the harshest critic would have trouble challenging.
 
Steppenwolf said:
Bush also gave us Justices, John Roberts and Samuel Alito. The face of the Supreme Court is important to us conservatives.
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Yes. He's trapped the 80% of us mainstream, centrist and moderates with antiquated reactionary ideologues who desire to undo 200 years of progress. Hell of an accomplishment there. It will probably take one generation to get rid of them and two to undo the damage they do to the nation. They make one ponder, will they support the Dred Scott decision?
 
Steppenwolf said:
Why aren't they positives?
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Because their political ideologues with an agenda that is not in everyones best interest. They have eschewed judicial restraint. Have shown a disturbing lack of respect and regard for precedent. They have consistantly failed to provide equal access to justice to minorities and victims of descrimination and other groups unpopular with ideolgocial conservatives and they've shown a blatant disregard for women's reproductive rights and their rights to privacy and self determination and they are making a mockery of serving the public by being grossly biased in favor of corporate interests over the general public.

That's just a few reasons why they suck.
 
Steppenwolf said:
Conservative values include self-reliance, earning the things that we value and want, delaying gratification, saving, charity and helping the needy, understanding that there is a higher power than ourselves, never shirking from praising the good in others and putting the spotlight on bad behavior.

Your response?
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I'll respond for Darla....she's not to good at doing her homework.

How the hell are these conservative values? Who said conservatives own these values? What make these values "conservative"?

You've made a typical conservative strawman argument by misrepresenting these values as conservative.

These are human values and not conservative ones.
 
KingCondanomation said:
Positive things Bush did:
Lower taxes
Justice appointments
Healthy Forests Initiative
Repeal of workplace ergonomics regulations
Repeal of funding for overseas abortion
Not using government money for stem cell research while doing the right thing and allowing private money to be used for it.
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Negative Things Bush did:
Lower taxes
Justice appointments
Healthy Forests Initiative
Repeal of workplace ergonomics regulations
Repeal of funding for overseas abortion
Not using government money for stem cell research while doing the right thing and allowing private money to be used for it.
 
charver said:
So, just to recap here.

He saved some trees, gave more of your money to Africa and stopped people ringing up Damo to sell him stuff he didn't want.

An eight year record even the harshest critic would have trouble challenging.
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Well Charver that's certainly the most objective list I've seen so far.
 
charver said:
So, just to recap here.

He saved some trees, gave more of your money to Africa and stopped people ringing up Damo to sell him stuff he didn't want.

An eight year record even the harshest critic would have trouble challenging.
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Yewbetcha!
 
Damocles said:
I remember something about an Olympic center somewhere too....
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Lets not forget two elks lodge up at vail.... stoopit ecoterrorists...

"gee, we pissed that you built the lodge out of wood, so we gunna burn it down so that you have to cut down more trees to rebuild it.'
 
Darla said:
Well, we have two very different views. Luckily for me, your free market cure-all has fallen on its face, and we're marching straight back in my direction. So that's all good.

Putting aside your stolen and unattributed quote (just don't do it in the streets and scare the horses, 19th or early 20th century English quote I believe, and your second stolen quote is, stoops to help a child), conservatives do in fact, care what other people do sexually. They are the ones responsible for anti-sodomy laws. I find it ironic that you believe I was making an obtuse remark about Palin, when in fact, it's red states in general. You see, no matter how long you "blather on" about "liberals", the facts are that red states lead the way on unwed births. For instance, Alaska, just jumped an astonishing 19% in teen pregnancies, and Mississippi, Montana, Louisiana, and Oklahoma just saw double digit increases as well. My own state of NY, showed a decrease in teen pregnancies.

In fact you really didn't address anything I said with any sort of defense. It's not "big business" bad to understand that we must have a countervailing force. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a tycoon, or very ignorant of early 20th century labor history. Or why any normal citizen would want to see superfund, which protects YOU, stripped. Or why any normal citizen would want an EPA which falsifies reports so that workers go back to a work area they are told is safe, when in fact, it's deadly. But I don't know of any normal person who does want those things.

In fact, your ideology was given free reign for eight years, and oh, in case you haven't noticed? The sky is falling. Happily, the pendulum has swung back, and, though there will always be people who believe as you do, you're safely in the minority now. That's one thing to thank Bush for.

As for your nastiness, I don't know if it's directed only at me, only at women, or only when it's your time of the month, but it does you no credit. It doesn't make you look cool. It doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look miserable. Just a little advice. Have a nice night.
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The current market melt-down is "luckily for" you? That comment alone assigns you an automatic failure on the cosmic IQ exam. Once again we have proof of the uncaring attitude of a self-confessed liberal. As they say, "out of the horse's mouth."

As far as you giving me advice, let me give you some: when you leave this earthly plane, consider donating your head to the bonebank.
 
Steppenwolf said:
The current market melt-down is "luckily for" you? That comment alone assigns you an automatic failure on the cosmic IQ exam. Once again we have proof of the uncaring attitude of a self-confessed liberal. As they say, "out of the horse's mouth."

As far as you giving me advice, let me give you some: when you leave this earthly plane, consider donating your head to the bonebank.
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You know I always wondered what ever happened to Morton Downey Jr.
 
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