Listening to your overseas phone calls?- WRONG! Fondling your balls?- OKAY!

You people should be demanding this fucking FOOL be fired and run the hell out of Washington, for this insane encroachment of our rights! Instead, you will throw out the obligatory "it's a shame" and let it pass, because she a liberal, and part of the Obama administration. It illustrates what a bunch of absolute hypocritical asswipes you ALL are! IF Bush's DHS had implemented this, you'd all be marching on Washington with picthforks and torches!


Whatever, Dix. I'm confident enough in my civil libertarian street cred that getting your approval doesn't rank too highly on my list.

But, since you want to play make-believe, I'll bite: If this was the Bush Administration you'd be clamoring to have the guy thrown in GITMO for endangering the country by refusing to comply with essential security measures.
 
This is beyond party, every American should be disgusted by this. Listening to idiots on the radio willing to undergo any humiliating nonsense to be "safe" almost made me ill. This is how terrorists win, they fundamentally change us into fearful idiots willing to be molested by Big Brother in the hopes that we'll be "safe"...

I can't imagine allowing this to happen to myself or my children. I guess we won't be able to fly for a while, sanity must be restored.

Here's what is really IRONIC... We are allowing TSA officers to look at and touch your private parts, to "protect" us from radical Islamic terrorists who would stone a woman to death for showing her heel in public!
 
Whatever, Dix. I'm confident enough in my civil libertarian street cred that getting your approval doesn't rank too highly on my list.

But, since you want to play make-believe, I'll bite: If this was the Bush Administration you'd be clamoring to have the guy thrown in GITMO for endangering the country by refusing to comply with essential security measures.

Shut up you fucking retarded hack! You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Bush approved measures to intercept international phone calls from suspected terrorists, and you all had a goddamn COW over it! Now, this bitch (who wasn't elected by anyone) just orders a complete and absolute violation of the 4th Amendment, including punishment if you decline to comply... and all you can do is point to Bush and act like partisan fucktards!
 
so here's a question then for the sheeple. If you had to sit on a jury for a person accused of assault on a federal official (TSA agent) with video tape of the person smacking the crap out of said agent, would you convict?
 
Shut up you fucking retarded hack! You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Bush approved measures to intercept international phone calls from suspected terrorists, and you all had a goddamn COW over it! Now, this bitch (who wasn't elected by anyone) just orders a complete and absolute violation of the 4th Amendment, including punishment if you decline to comply... and all you can do is point to Bush and act like partisan fucktards!

not to hijack the thread, but the 4th Amendment prohibits ALL of the government from intercepting calls, international or not. so yes, we who bitched about it had a legitimate gripe.
 
Like WOW!I mean I had no idea it could be THAT connected:(

Yeah let's go through airport security so all the sex offenders can stay in the game.


funny you should mention that:
Exhibit A is a former TSA employee known as Robert Joe Harrison Jr. who was a TSA security screener in Ketchum, Idaho.

In April 2006, Harrison was arrested by the local police after he had brought home a 10-year-old boy whom he had enticed into his pickup truck. After they arrived at Harrison's home, the adult put in a movie and left the room. The youngster quite sensibly bolted the premises, fled to his home and and described the incident to his mother, who called the police.

When police searched Harrison's apartment, they found (in the words of an MSNBC report) found "four additional Social Security numbers and documents showing four other dates of birth." The TSA hired Harrison without even establishing his actual name and identity.

“Harrison” -- who bears an uncanny resemblance to Jim Bonnick, a small-time con-man from the TV series “Magnum, PI” -- was one of several suspected pederasts discovered within the span of a few weeks in 2006. It makes me wonder how many of the Department's officials belong to the department's “Aqualung Club.”

Harrison's arrest -- and the presence of other degenerates on the TSA's payroll -- shouldn't lead people to make unfortunate generalizations about the agency, insisted Dough Melvin, Federal Security Director for Idaho.

“TSA is a large organization with a large workforce, [and] unfortunately we have an individual who does things that are truly inappropriate, things that are intolerable for TSA,” insisted Melvin, who assured the public that the agency had a “zero tolerance” policy for behavior of this type. He didn't explain how a suspected pederast with five aliases and sets of personal ID could pass a federal background check. We simply had to take his word on the matter. After all, he was a clean-cut, respectable sort.

As it happens, less than a year after Harrison's arrest, Mr. Melvin was forced to resign as a result of his own public sexual misconduct.

“The now former Director of the Transportation Security Administration in Boise was arrested last week at an Idaho Falls hotel,” reported Boise's CBS affiliate KBCI on February 27, 2007. “Doug Melvin was busted after staff and hotel guests say they saw him walking around naked.”

The police report on the incident recorded that “Melvin entered the swimming area and removed his clothing before walking around, exposing himself.... Melvin was also reportedly masturbating while in front of the windows directly in view of the main elevator.”

Frank Figueroa, the former head of a federal anti-molester initiative called “Operation Predator,” was arrested at an Orlando shopping mall on October 25, 2005. He was charged with exposing himself to a 16-year-old girl while, ah, manipulating himself.


Confronted by mall security as he tried to flee the scene, Figueroa whipped out something else he was unduly proud of: The badge identifying him as the special agent in charge of the Tampa office of the Department of Immigration and Customs enforcement – one of the main appendages, as it were, of the DHS.

Figueroa was a repeat offender: He was hired by the DHS and given specific responsibility to deal with child sexual predators despite a 1977 arrest on a charge of public sexual misconduct in Buffalo. Thanks to an incredibly generous deal struck with an inexplicably lenient judge, Figueroa was given a year's probation and a withheld judgment -- meaning that there is no record of his conviction.

It's worthy of mention that Figueroa's "punishment" for preying on an underage girl was less severe than that inflicted on Phyllis Dintenfass for reciprocating the supposedly innocuous behavior of the TSA agent who felt her up.

Given Figueroa's area of responsibility in the federal hierarchy, and his private inclination toward the very behavior he was assigned to investigate, I find myself wondering if he had any personal or professional dealings with former Homeland Security honcho J. Brian Doyle.

The same week that "Robert J. Harrison" was arrested in Idaho, Doyle was arrested in Silver Spring, Maryland. For several weeks Doyle had been conversing by way of an internet a chatroom with someone he believed to be a cancer-stricken pre-adolescent girl. Eventually he tried to arrange a sexual liaison with his correspondent, unaware that he was being set up by a detective from the Polk County, Florida Sheriff's Office.

At the time, Doyle was the second-highest ranking official in the Homeland Security Department's propaganda directorate. He did nothing to disguise his identity while making overtures to what he believed was a potential victim; in fact, he even used his position at Homeland Security as a come-on.
 
Absolutely unacceptable. There is zero chance those pervs would get one finger on any of my daughters. Humbly accepting a pat-down more extensive than when you are arrested because you want to be "safe" is preposterous.

They are packing explosives into breast implants, twisting nipples isn't going to discover that. They are packing their colons, feeling your nuts isn't going to discover that. The idea that this is somehow making you "safe" is beyond foolish. Why would we subject ourselves to this? We let them listen to our calls, we let them peek at our e-mail, we let them feel us up in the name of safety?

Disgusting.

Will women be asked to remove pads and tampons to insure safety? I mean seriously you guys get screened through their xray and they see the size of your package...women have to worry about flying when it isn't that time of month!
 
Absolutely unacceptable. There is zero chance those pervs would get one finger on any of my daughters. Humbly accepting a pat-down more extensive than when you are arrested because you want to be "safe" is preposterous.

They are packing explosives into breast implants, twisting nipples isn't going to discover that. They are packing their colons, feeling your nuts isn't going to discover that. The idea that this is somehow making you "safe" is beyond foolish. Why would we subject ourselves to this? We let them listen to our calls, we let them peek at our e-mail, we let them feel us up in the name of safety?

Disgusting.

Next month, cavity search. Screeners will accommodate those who bring their own KY. :)
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/kswb-man-faces-fine-for-refusing-tsa-scan,0,1421539.story

It's hard for me to believe these are the same people! The very same igmos who writhed and moaned about warrantless wiretaps, breathlessly protesting that it was an abhorrent violation of our Constitutional rights... are seemingly FINE with TSA officials fondling your balls! We can't listen to an overseas phone conversation, that is too intrusive into your privacy... but for a TSA official to perform what amounts to sexual assault on you... NO PROBLEM!

And not only THAT... but the guy faces a FINE? WTF? He's being fined because he refused to allow a TSA official fondle him? This is beyond insane!!!!:palm:
What I want to know is....do I have to pay extra and does it come with a happy ending?
 
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Will women be asked to remove pads and tampons to insure safety? I mean seriously you guys get screened through their xray and they see the size of your package...
I can see that for a dickless wonder like Dixie why that would be a concern. I can see the technician saying as he walks through...."Ok...double the magnification, no, better triple it!"
 
I can see that for a dickless wonder like Dixie why that would be a concern. I can see the technician saying as he walks through...."Ok...double the magnification, no, better triple it!"

Oh yeah, it's really a joking matter... I bet that's why you were opposed to warrantless wiretaps, you were afraid they would hear your phone sex conversations with Onzies! Being you are both closet trannys, and wouldn't care for that information to get out and all....

Yuck it up! Let's see how much of a JOKE we can make out of Democrats destroying our Constitutional rights! We sure as hell didn't get many laughs out of Republicans doing it, did we?
 
not only have images been saved AND released and we've seen horrendous evidence of the TSA doing a piss poor job of checking out it's own employees and management, but I have to wonder if anyone batted an eye that these new scanners were pushed in to use by Michael Chertoff because he has a client who manufactures them. In fact, one of the spending bills funneled MILLIONS for these, so how much did Chertoff make off of them?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...02/group_slams_chertoff_on_scanner_promotion/
 
And if all that is not enough stupidity- Janet Napolitano is considering allowing Muslim women to forgo the new security measures!!!!! Now I don't know about you, but does that not smack of the height of stupidity? "Hey terrorists we know you have used your women in the past to blow up things-not to worry we have now made it easier then ever for you" :D

Meanwhile, while average American citizens are being forced to choose between being seen naked or be groped by the TSA, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) has recommended that Muslim women traveling in a hijab forgo the scanners, and only be searched around their neck and head. This is in accordance with their religion, and Janet Napolitano is considering the request.
 
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And if all that is not enough stupidity- Janet Nepolitano is considering allowing Muslim women to forgo the new security measures!!!!! Now I don't know about you, but does that not smack of the height of stupidity? "Hey terrorists we know you have used your women in the past to blow up things-not to worry we have now made it easier then ever for you" :D

Meanwhile, while average American citizens are being forced to choose between being seen naked or be groped by the TSA, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) has recommended that Muslim women traveling in a hijab forgo the scanners, and only be searched around their neck and head. This is in accordance with their religion, and Janet Napolitano is considering the request.

I'll ask again, is anyone else ready to smack the shit out of a screener for touching your junk?
 
not to hijack the thread, but the 4th Amendment prohibits ALL of the government from intercepting calls, international or not. so yes, we who bitched about it had a legitimate gripe.

One could argue that CIA monitoring overseas phone conversations of suspected terrorists, is not a violation of the 4th Amendment. At the very least, it is not a "direct" violation, you have to establish that monitoring a phone call amounts to an "illegal search" and that is somewhat of a stretch. In the case of what the TSA has been ordered to do (it never was approved by Congress), it is a DIRECT and OBVIOUS violation of the 4th Amendment, in about the most blatant and egregious way it can be violated. It is an OUTRIGHT illegal search without any justification or provocation. So, in one instance, at least there is a tenable argument to be made, regardless of whether you think warrantless wiretaps are, or are not, a violation of the 4th, and in the other instance, a violation that any 6th-grader should recognize.
 
I'll ask again, is anyone else ready to smack the shit out of a screener for touching your junk?

I will not do a pat down...that's just plain creepy. I think we all need to google petitions to sign in order to apply neccesary pressure to stop this invasive stupidity. I am sure they exist.

How about we send a security team to Israel for 6 months to study how they operate what is called the best airport security in the world...and then adopt it?
 
I'll ask again, is anyone else ready to smack the shit out of a screener for touching your junk?

Here is what I think should happen... One of these TV lawyers who are always trying to round up clients who've been exposed to asbestos, or taken some drug, or used Polygrip... Needs to start a campaign... If you've been subjected to TSA screenings, you have rights! Call 1-800-NO-GROPE now! File a multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit against the TSA, and Napalitano, and put a stop to this kind of shit once and for all.

I just can't believe someone, somewhere, in our government, didn't step up and say... Hey, wait a minute... we can't do this! I mean, is this how utterly arrogant this administration is?
 
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