Living with an electric car?

Legion said:
Indeed. Mostly rich, white guilty people, the kind who buy "carbon credits" and posted black squares on their social media account to virtue-signal?
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basically. but rich is not required just upper middle class. Rich gets the 6 figure Teslas and UMC gets volts.
 
Celticguy said:
as I have noted before, EVs are suitable for suburb use (commute, running chores) and thats about it.
Sure you can rent a real car for a family vacation but only moderately well off folks can afford that.
Its like the guy who buys an old MG-B to sport around in occasionally. Its fun but impractical.
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I have to disagree with you - to a point.

1) The $31,500, Chevrolet Bolt has a range of over 240 miles even on the highway (apparently).
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1132242_chevrolet-bolt-ev-range-test-gone-with-the-wind

And I cannot think of too many places that most people ever need to go that is farther than 240 miles away.
Plus, there are already over 40,000 charging stations.
https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/living-electric/public-charging
And if someone was in a BIG hurry to go farther than that - they would just fly.
BTW - the average 12,000 miles/year driver only does about 32 miles per day.

2) now I agree that EV's are still, too expensive for anyone below middle class to afford.
Even middle class when times are tough - like they are becoming now, economically.

But they already sell a mega-cheap Chinese EV for $15G's with a 160 mile range in China.
And with much less maintenance required?
A lower class family could definitely find one of these useful...if they ever sell them over here.

https://egear.asia/cheapest-electric-cars-china/
 
McRocket said:
I have to disagree with you - to a point.

1) The $31,500, Chevrolet Bolt has a range of over 240 miles even on the highway (apparently).
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1132242_chevrolet-bolt-ev-range-test-gone-with-the-wind

And I cannot think of too many places that most people ever need to go that is farther than 240 miles away.
Plus, there are already over 40,000 charging stations.
https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/living-electric/public-charging
And if someone was in a BIG hurry to go farther than that - they would just fly.
BTW - the average 12,000 miles/year driver only does about 32 miles per day.

2) now I agree that EV's are still, too expensive for anyone below middle class to afford.
Even middle class when times are tough - like they are becoming now, economically.

But they already sell a mega-cheap Chinese EV for $15G's with a 160 mile range in China.
And with much less maintenance required?
A lower class family could definitely find one of these useful...if they ever sell them over here.

https://egear.asia/cheapest-electric-cars-china/
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Volts are not family cars. Four people and luggage ? No happening. MAYBE college kid for in state but still middle class.

15k in China still going to cost 20plus to ship across the sea and market.

Range of 240 would not have worked for my family. Annecdotal of course.
 
Celticguy said:
Volts are not family cars. Four people and luggage ? No happening. MAYBE college kid for in state but still middle class. 15k in China still going to cost 20plus to ship across the sea and market. Range of 240 would not have worked for my family. Annecdotal of course.
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Glorified golf carts, and I wouldn't believe any manufacturer's stated range figures - especially not a Red Chinese one.
 
Legion said:
Glorified golf carts, and I wouldn't believe any manufacturer's stated range figures - especially not a Red Chinese one.
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as demonstrated in the OP video, range is impacted by a wide variety of factors. I had read about A/C and heaters effect but that ski rack was surprising.
And that was a pretty nice vehicle so these 250 mile ranges cannot be trusted so they are useless for family vacations.

and so far no mentions of battery life which is like 10 years. I realize I am the exception to the rule in that my car is 18 years old and thats not unusual for me
but that makes these cars disposable once the battery quits.
 
Celticguy said:
and so far no mentions of battery life which is like 10 years. I realize I am the exception to the rule in that my car is 18 years old and thats not unusual for me
but that makes these cars disposable once the battery quits.
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Pretty much.
 
Legion said:

Bungling Biden has continued to ignore the number 1 EV producer in the world, Tesla, while claiming that he's trying to push the transition of EVs forward.

He invited CEOs from Ford, GM, Cummings, and others to a whitehouse roundtable about EVs, yet, of course, Elon Musk was left out.

If bungling Biden really wanted to further the progress of electric vehicles, shouldn't Tesla be his number 1 priority?

Watch the video to find out why bungling Biden discriminates against the world's most successful African American ever.
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figures.
 
Legion said:
You'll buy one if your wife tells you to.
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No, I won't. The wife doesn't make such decisions. Sure, she might want particular features, but she doesn't give a shit if the vehicle runs on gasoline, diesel, electricity, or pixie dust. So long as it has the comfort and other personal features she wants, she's good.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, I won't. The wife doesn't make such decisions. Sure, she might want particular features, but she doesn't give a shit if the vehicle runs on gasoline, diesel, electricity, or pixie dust. So long as it has the comfort and other personal features she wants, she's good.
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I wasn't talking to you.
 
I have rode in a Tesla twice with someone and twice a wrecker had to be called. One had 2k miles on it and the other 5k. Both times it upset our schedule for the day. Combine that with a >50% depreciation in value 2 days after ownership and I will continue to be a hold out
 
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