LOTR characters all bachelor virgins

Number of LOTR characters that are virgins... Undetermined.

Number of people who are working to determine the virginity of the LOTR characters who are also virgins... All of them.
 
Well Legolas never mentions his wife, and Tokien said Elves NEVER have sex before marriage, and would actually die rather than be raped.

No sex before marriage.... LOL @ Tolkien. He was such a prude. He designed his perfect race of humans, and their hot, live forever, have no sex before marriage, and get to go over to the Undying lands when they want to where they can have lots of fun. It just rubs it in the mortals face how much it sucks to be them.
 
Watermark said:
Well Legolas never mentions his wife, and Tokien said Elves NEVER have sex before marriage, and would actually die rather than be raped.

No sex before marriage.... LOL @ Tolkien. He was such a prude. He designed his perfect race of humans, and their hot, live forever, have no sex before marriage, and get to go over to the Undying lands when they want to where they can have lots of fun. It just rubs it in the mortals face how much it sucks to be them.
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But they're not humans, even if they were in a fallen state. The dwarves, wizards, and hobbits are likewise not humans. The Elves merely symbolize what humanity could have been like, not what it could have been.
 
Threedee said:
But they're not humans, even if they were in a fallen state. The dwarves, wizards, and hobbits are likewise not humans. The Elves merely symbolize what humanity could have been like, not what it could have been.
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Nearly every fantastic universe has an ideal race of what humans WANT to be (not what they could have been, that's silly nonsense). Elves are that race in middle-earth. BTW, they aren't some stupid representation of what we could have been had we not gained knowledge by eating the apple and remained ignorant forever, as in your ignorant mythology. Tolkien actually says that mortality is a gift, since we go straight to Gawd. Right, Tolkien, right... they are always trying to make a curse a gift.
 
Watermark said:
Nearly every fantastic universe has an ideal race of what humans WANT to be (not what they could have been, that's silly nonsense). Elves are that race in middle-earth. BTW, they aren't some stupid representation of what we could have been had we not gained knowledge by eating the apple and remained ignorant forever, as in your ignorant mythology. Tolkien actually says that mortality is a gift, since we go straight to Gawd. Right, Tolkien, right... they are always trying to make a curse a gift.
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Since we are immortal spirituality, that puts us a notch above the elves, yes. That's why they disappeared from the world, according to Tolkien, and we lived on. BTW, the "knowledge" was of a specific topic, not of all things...
 
Threedee said:
Since we are immortal spirituality, that puts us a notch above the elves, yes.
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It's a copout. Mortality isn't a gift, to pretend it is is an old and boring trope amongst writers. Clearly, we would all love to be Elves, and it would blow to know you had been born a human, and especially a hobbit or dwarf, in such a world.
 
Watermark said:
It's a copout. Mortality isn't a gift, to pretend it is is an old and boring trope amongst writers. Clearly, we would all love to be Elves, and it would blow to know you had been born a human, and especially a hobbit or dwarf, in such a world.
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Not really, although it does beg the question of whether or not humans would have sacrificed for a future in which elves lived on while humans became extinct. I doubt we would have cooperated. Nevertheless, the whole point is that humanity is ultimately the truly immortal race.

The only people who have cause to fear our physical mortality is people like you, Watermark.
 
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